I Bet Some See NIL as Their Salvation

[The-Hack]

Don’t you believe Nebraska, USC, UCLA, Rutgers, Houston, Georgia Tech, Oregon and maybe Michigan see this as potentially breaking the SEC’s dominance for the last 25 years?

Sure, the South will invest, and Texas and A & M can outbid anyone, but the schools I listed have to see an opportunity in places with huge fan followings, or massive urban settings.

Take Rutgers. It has Jersey locked down, and when they play at home, their colors are often reflected by the Empire State Buildings’ lighting system.

We might see the emergence of new “players,”or those long-neglected G-5 programs might spring up to compete, such as the University of Houston.

Heck, who knows who might emerge.

What if a billionaire really wants to throw 200 million at Rice’s recruiting over a five year time period?

 

[EliteBlue]

Don’t you believe Nebraska, USC, UCLA, Rutgers, Houston, Georgia Tech, Oregon and maybe Michigan see this as potentially breaking the SEC’s dominance for the last 25 years?

Sure, the South will invest, and Texas and A & M can outbid anyone, but the schools I listed have to see an opportunity in places with huge fan followings, or massive urban settings.

Take Rutgers. It has Jersey locked down, and when they play at home, their colors are often reflected by the Empire State Buildings’ lighting system.

We might see the emergence of new “players,”or those long-neglected G-5 programs might spring up to compete, such as the University of Houston.

Heck, who knows who might emerge.

What if a billionaire really wants to throw 200 million at Rice’s recruiting over a five year time period?

Welcome back to prominence SMU

 

[The-Hack]

Welcome back to prominence SMU

I’m Methodist, but my $50.00 bucks is going to buy a shoelace on Levis’s left cleat!!

 

[JC CATS]

I bet some see NIL as an program killer. What kind of opportunities for NIL is Richmond KY going to be

 

[satcheluk]

I bet some see NIL as an program killer. What kind of opportunities for NIL is Richmond KY going to be

No different than now. EKU is a low tier athletic program, but now their players can make a bit of scratch from local car dealerships, farmer supply, Buckey's etc.

 

[TOMCATS1990]

Oregon should get anyone they want with Knight. University of Penn lookout if Elon Musk is a sports fan.

 

[Glenn's take]

1. I agree that NIL and not having to sit a year after transferring are fair.
2. Because of statement 1, college basketball is already a dead sport to me and I doubt college football probably isn't far behind.

 

[JC CATS]

No different than now. EKU is a low tier athletic program, but now their players can make a bit of scratch from local car dealerships, farmer supply, Buckey's etc.

Yeah I know nothing has changed from now. You do realize that NIL is brand new, so historically it is 1000 percent different

 

[CB3UK]

Caps are coming, as are penalties for programs using NIL as inducements for commitments. Right now it's the Wild West but this isn't going to last.

 

[satcheluk]

Yeah I know nothing has changed from now. You do realize that NIL is brand new, so historically it is 1000 percent different

I disagree. There has always been some form of pay for play under the table or teams just spending more on recruiting because they have more money from rich boosters. That isn't changing. It's just moving above board. Teams with more money will still get better players, but there is a chance to get some people in the community involved that maybe wouldn't have when it was against the rules and that's where teams like EKU might be able to entice someone to drop down in order to get more money. Big fish, small pond vs small fish, bigger pond.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Caps are coming, as are penalties for programs using NIL as inducements for commitments. Right now it's the Wild West but this isn't going to last.

There is zero way they can cap this. Some state laws allow the schools to be involved. The NCAA can't put other schools at a disadvantage. No matter what the NCAA tries to do, there will be lawsuits flying everywhere.

 

[CB3UK]

There is zero way they can cap this. Some state laws allow the schools to be involved. The NCAA can't put other schools at a disadvantage. No matter what the NCAA tries to do, there will be lawsuits flying everywhere.

I'm not one for more federal government but this is something that needs some sort of federal mandate across the board.

Or a complete gut/overhaul/revamp of the system. Not sure what the answer is. And I'm sure the bs with Title IX makes things more difficult in this regard too.

NIL as it's intended to be is fine. Any student athlete that can get a sponsorship or sell autographs or do whatever, can. I agree there shouldn't be a cap on NIL. If someone wants to hand a guy big paycheck because they think his endorsement of their restaurant, dealership, whatever is worth that, have at it.

 

[K_TIME]

I won’t be shocked to see

1. Transfer portal will go back to see kids sit one year and maybe exceptions for grad transfer or when head coaches lewve
2. They might kick the NIL to just players on team and not recruits as inducement form high school. So kids like Levis or Pachal that sell their NIL will be allowed but a kid not on team might have to wait

I don’t see how you cap it(or frankly what does that solve) nor do I see it going away tidally But in the end, it’s the new norm

 

[YaketySax]

It would be game changer for Stanford. Imagine if Harvard cared about football. Maybe Vandy if they cared less for baseball.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

I'm not one for more federal government but this is something that needs some sort of federal mandate across the board.

Or a complete gut/overhaul/revamp of the system. Not sure what the answer is. And I'm sure the bs with Title IX makes things more difficult in this regard too.

NIL as it's intended to be is fine. Any student athlete that can get a sponsorship or sell autographs or do whatever, can. I agree there shouldn't be a cap on NIL. If someone wants to hand a guy big paycheck because they think his endorsement of their restaurant, dealership, whatever is worth that, have at it.

Yes, a federal law would be the only thing that could control it at this point and then it would be limited in effect. They could make the playing field even for each state but they couldn't cap anything and I doubt they'd get into the hair splitting with the booster issue either. The NCAA is wasting their time. They will end up looking like idiots again.

 

[jauk11]

I’m Methodist, but my $50.00 bucks is going to buy a shoelace on Levis’s left cleat!!

Don't do it, I will sell you both my shoelaces for $50.00!

 

[jauk11]

Caps are coming, as are penalties for programs using NIL as inducements for commitments. Right now it's the Wild West but this isn't going to last.

Has to happen if they want to keep big time college athletics. My question is how can they void all the deals that have already been made. And now that big time recruits have found out their value are they going to play for relatively nothing now, and won't they try to get it however they can. They will be drafted and long gone before the NCAA gets off its butt.

 

[jauk11]

I'm not one for more federal government but this is something that needs some sort of federal mandate across the board.

Or a complete gut/overhaul/revamp of the system. Not sure what the answer is. And I'm sure the bs with Title IX makes things more difficult in this regard too.

NIL as it's intended to be is fine. Any student athlete that can get a sponsorship or sell autographs or do whatever, can. I agree there shouldn't be a cap on NIL. If someone wants to hand a guy big paycheck because they think his endorsement of their restaurant, dealership, whatever is worth that, have at it.

I agree, but the problem is they aren't buying customers, they are buying players.

 

[yoshukai]

Has to happen if they want to keep big time college athletics. My question is how can they void all the deals that have already been made. And now that big time recruits have found out their value are they going to play for relatively nothing now, and won't they try to get it however they can. They will be drafted and long gone before the NCAA gets off its butt.

Even if they make changes to “reel in” the nil deals , I just can’t imagine the ncaa will ever have enough resources and manpower to go back and punish schools that are currently violating nil rules.

 

[The-Hack]

punish schools that are currently violating nil rules.

What NIL rules?

 

[sieken]

What NIL rules?

I think he might be referring to the inducement rule but they figured out how to skirt that one. I don't see where the NCAA can really do anything about it, whether they like this direction or not.

 

[JC CATS]

I disagree. There has always been some form of pay for play under the table or teams just spending more on recruiting because they have more money from rich boosters. That isn't changing. It's just moving above board. Teams with more money will still get better players, but there is a chance to get some people in the community involved that maybe wouldn't have when it was against the rules and that's where teams like EKU might be able to entice someone to drop down in order to get more money. Big fish, small pond vs small fish, bigger pond.

Check Morehead State and Murray State basketball roster transfers from last season. 5 years ago both teams would have fielded good teams next season. Now, neither team will be worth a dime!

 

[yoshukai]

What NIL rules?

lol, well nil deals aren’t “supposed “ to be used as a recruiting enticement (eye roll) . At least that’s the way I understand it.

 

[JHB4UK]

No putting the toothpaste back in the tube. Ain't gonna be no caps. Ain't gonna be any retroactive punishment, that's just about the most ridiculous thing or sad hope I've ever heard.

Pathetic bball fans think that this will make Caliparis fumbling and mishandling of NIL justified. Folly.

Who's gonna enforce caps? Who's gonna punish NIL pay for play? NCAA? Same morons who can't punish a complete corrupt UL bball program that has been violating every rule possible, for 10 yrs? Can't punish a UT fb program that fires their coach, for cause for cheating? Supreme Court yanked out the NCAA & Emmertt's testicle 9-0.

Best learn to live in the new reality. Hoping for some savior from the feckless NCAA, or the hapless Congress. Adapt, or die. Totally understand all who find this topic distasteful and kills your Fandom, i suggest stopping following till September. Once the games start portal & NIL talk go away.

 

[hmt5000]

Michigan has been paying retroactively. Dirty secret that they may not pay up front but they make sure you get paid after leaving school. It's barely better than what smu did.

 

[John_dromo1]

Don’t you believe Nebraska, USC, UCLA, Rutgers, Houston, Georgia Tech, Oregon and maybe Michigan see this as potentially breaking the SEC’s dominance for the last 25 years?

Sure, the South will invest, and Texas and A & M can outbid anyone, but the schools I listed have to see an opportunity in places with huge fan followings, or massive urban settings.

Take Rutgers. It has Jersey locked down, and when they play at home, their colors are often reflected by the Empire State Buildings’ lighting system.

We might see the emergence of new “players,”or those long-neglected G-5 programs might spring up to compete, such as the University of Houston.

Heck, who knows who might emerge.

What if a billionaire really wants to throw 200 million at Rice’s recruiting over a five year time period?

It sure is helping Louisville.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

lol, well nil deals aren’t “supposed “ to be used as a recruiting enticement (eye roll) . At least that’s the way I understand it.

Yeah but the Tennessee law specifically allows it.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Caps are coming, as are penalties for programs using NIL as inducements for commitments. Right now it's the Wild West but this isn't going to last.

I really hope you are correct about this. I don't see how it can maintain the way it appears to be going. But with each state seemingly making their own laws I don't see how the NCAA has the power to do anything. Harvard's endowment dwarfs Texas and ATM's endowments, so does Stanford's. Will football become important to those schools? I am not even looking forward to the college football season, never thought I would say that.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Yeah but the Tennessee law specifically allows it.

Of course it would, they have never been very good without paying kids to go there, and are under investigation today for it.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Of course it would, they have never been very good without paying kids to go there, and are under investigation today for it.

Yep but their law creates a real problem for the NCAA.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Yep but their law creates a real problem for the NCAA.

Well it shouldn't. Being a member is voluntary, and following their rules is mandatory. But recent rulings have neutered the NCAA. If this BS could have waited a few years I wouldn't have to witness the destruction of college athletics. This BS and men winning NCAA women's championships. WTH, it's been destroyed in 2-3 years.

 

[The Snoke]

Even if they make changes to “reel in” the nil deals , I just can’t imagine the ncaa will ever have enough resources and manpower to go back and punish schools that are currently violating nil rules.

I think you’re right. They don’t have the resources, nor the guts for it. Weak leadership from the NCAA not only allowed, but pushed things to this point. It will not take much longer, and I think soon, for the NCAA to become irrelevant to anything. I just hope that college/amateur sports, of a high level, can remain for us in the future. I really don’t know right now. We shall see.

 

[satcheluk]

Check Morehead State and Murray State basketball roster transfers from last season. 5 years ago both teams would have fielded good teams next season. Now, neither team will be worth a dime!

Picking a single year, as evidence for long term patterns, is not how it works. Both of those teams have been consistently up and down over time and that should not change. They will continue to have to find developmental projects and some will pan out, which will make them better than they normally are. With the transfer portal, they will need to make sure to build a culture in which the players that develop, want to stay, though they will also be able to recruit P5 castoffs and have them rehabilitate, just like they do now.

 

[JC CATS]

Picking a single year, as evidence for long term patterns, is not how it works. Both of those teams have been consistently up and down over time and that should not change. They will continue to have to find developmental projects and some will pan out, which will make them better than they normally are. With the transfer portal, they will need to make sure to build a culture in which the players that develop, want to stay, though they will also be able to recruit P5 castoffs and have them rehabilitate, just like they do now.

How does Morehead keep a Johnnie Broome? I'm afraid they wont

 

[BigKat1988]

Yeah but the Tennessee law specifically allows it.

How so?

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

How so?

When NIL reps can speak to recruits, that is allowing it, not to mention the coaches and schools are allowed to fund raise for collectives. It isn't hard to understand.

 

[BigKat1988]

When NIL reps can speak to recruits, that is allowing it, not to mention the coaches and schools are allowed to fund raise for collectives. It isn't hard to understand.

They’re private companies. They can partner with any private citizen they want. And Tennessee doesn’t fund raise or promote Spyre in any way.

 

[gojvc]

How does Morehead keep a Johnnie Broome? I'm afraid they wont

They won’t.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

They’re private companies. They can partner with any private citizen they want. And Tennessee doesn’t fund raise or promote Spyre in any way.

What are you talking about?

 

[BigKat1988]

What are you talking about?

You said coaches and the school fund raise for the collectives. They don’t. Why would they?