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Here's the wild reason why no further penalties on UL

Nov 26, 2014
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As they lament over further penalties coming forth by the most ethical entity ever called the NCAA, Card loons suggest that it's ok to throw whores at recruit if the end result cannot be found to have influence a recruit to commit there. Seriously. So the precedent now is it's ok for campus whore parties to occur if no benefit to recruiting occurs.

Insane.
 
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I hate UL, but tell me: do you think (even if they had not been caught) that Hookers gave them a recruiting advantage?

Remember that those who did NOT sign surely spread the sordid story. And there's plenty of Moms/Dads who would flip out if/when they found out.
 
I hate UL, but tell me: do you think (even if they had not been caught) that Hookers gave them a recruiting advantage?

Remember that those who did NOT sign surely spread the sordid story. And there's plenty of Moms/Dads who would flip out if/when they found out.
Who cares about advantage? It is ILLEGAL. On top that, there was underage prostitution!
 
Who cares about advantage? It is ILLEGAL. On top that, there was underage prostitution!
Now you are getting where I am coming from. Jail time SHOULD have happened.

But honest...the NCAA? I just don't think UL gained an advantage. They are the laughing stock of the college world, and it didn't help them recruit anyone worth having.
 
Now you are getting where I am coming from. Jail time SHOULD have happened.

But honest...the NCAA? I just don't think UL gained an advantage. They are the laughing stock of the college world, and it didn't help them recruit anyone worth having.
They still exist. UL is nothing but a Sons of Anarchy wannabe and Pitino is the one that wears the gloves to prevent public indencency.
 
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Now you are getting where I am coming from. Jail time SHOULD have happened.

But honest...the NCAA? I just don't think UL gained an advantage. They are the laughing stock of the college world, and it didn't help them recruit anyone worth having.
I don't know..

I think when McGee handed money to the recruits and the whores there was a clear violation.
 
They still exist. UL is nothing but a Sons of Anarchy wannabe and Pitino is the one that wears the gloves to prevent public indencency.
Agree. It's been a cesspool for years.

The Good Book promises: "Be sure your sins will find you out." Ville is vile and will pay the Piper someday.
 
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I don't know.. I think when McGee handed money to the recruits and the whores there was a clear violation.
Agree on that too. There should be some penalties. But people talk about them losing their title or Pitino being suspended for a year. I just think in NCAA rules it's a pimple compared to what UNC Chapel Hell has done.

I HATE UL. Just making that clear before I get blasted.
 
I'd say it's at the very least debateable whether providing free strippers and prostitutes to bunch of 18 year old boys have uofl an advantage
 
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As they lament over further penalties coming forth by the most ethical entity ever called the NCAA, Card loons suggest that it's ok to throw whores at recruit if the end result cannot be found to have influence a recruit to commit there. Seriously. So the precedent now is it's ok for campus whore parties to occur if no benefit to recruiting occurs.

Insane.
Why did you go to UL board? You can read the same from UK posters here.
They argue that it did not give a competitive advantage
 
I agree it is debateable. I actually did just that with 2 UL fans 2 days ago. I stated that the AD and Coach should be facing a trial.
Billy Clyde was a drunk and thug. But truth be told, Jurich and Pitino were sober when this happened. Far worse. Crimes against children is the worse.
 
Agree on that too. There should be some penalties. But people talk about them losing their title or Pitino being suspended for a year. I just think in NCAA rules it's a pimple compared to what UNC Chapel Hell has done.

I HATE UL. Just making that clear before I get blasted.
If you hate UL, why are you going out of your way to defend them? It's apparent their intentions were to gain a recruiting advantage. Whether it was successful or not doesn't matter. A violation is a violation regardless.
 
If you hate UL, why are you going out of your way to defend them? It's apparent their intentions were to gain a recruiting advantage. Whether it was successful or not doesn't matter. A violation is a violation regardless.
Well, like a fool I tried to engage in an intellectual conversation. But everyone (including Blueaz whom I respect) apparently can't tolerate an honest exchange of ideas. So I'll quit casting my pearls and move on.

It didn't used to be this way on this board. I miss the good ole days....
 
Well, like a fool I tried to engage in an intellectual conversation. But everyone (including Blueaz whom I respect) apparently can't tolerate an honest exchange of ideas. So I'll quit casting my pearls and move on.

It didn't used to be this way on this board. I miss the good ole days....
So does Bruce Springsteen. If people can't recognize UL as the least ethical program ever, then why bother.
 
I hate UL, but tell me: do you think (even if they had not been caught) that Hookers gave them a recruiting advantage?

Remember that those who did NOT sign surely spread the sordid story. And there's plenty of Moms/Dads who would flip out if/when they found out.
Cheating doesn't become OK simply because you're bad at it.
 
As they lament over further penalties coming forth by the most ethical entity ever called the NCAA, Card loons suggest that it's ok to throw whores at recruit if the end result cannot be found to have influence a recruit to commit there. Seriously. So the precedent now is it's ok for campus whore parties to occur if no benefit to recruiting occurs.

Insane.
They had prostitutes in dorms and gave sexual favors to recruits. We can all agree with it.
But what should the penalty be. Look at what Syracuse did and their penalties.
Louisville punished themselves with a reduction of recruiting, a loss of a couple of scholarships, and a post-season ban. The only 2 remaining penalties will be financial and Pitino serving a suspension.

Syracuse:
SU failed for 10 years to exercise enough control over its athletic program and "employed deficient monitoring systems involving academics, drug-testing, and athletes' relationship and engagement with the community."

The NCAA singled out men's basketball coach Jim Boeheim for failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance over 10 years.

"The institution permitted athletics success to supersede NCAA standards of conduct," the NCAA said. "Student-athletes and institutional staff committed violations freely or did not know that their conduct violated NCAA legislation. Many of those violations went undiscovered for years."

Under the direction of SU's director of basketball operations, the university's student-athlete support services staff operated contrary to institutional policies and procedures, the NCAA said.

The NCAA found that Kissel, along with an SU support services mentor, engaged in academic fraud for basketball center Fab Melo.

SU discovered and reported to the NCAA that a former university representative and employee of the YMCA in Oneida County paid $8,335 to five SU athletes. The payments did not coincide with YMCA-related events.

In 2005, basketball players Terrence Roberts and Hakim Warrick attended basketball tournament that Cornish was involved in.

The YMCA sued Cornish in 2008, claiming he set up a bank account using the YMCA's not-for-profit tax ID number without the agency's permission and diverted as much as $338,462 to his own benefit.

SU discovered and self-reported to the NCAA that between 2001 and 2009, the athletic department administered drug tests to athletes in a way that was inconsistent with the written policy.

Penalties:
From the NCAA:
Syracuse's self-imposed penalties
1. Jim Boeheim suspended for nine ACC games in the 2015-16 season.
2. The vacation of 108 of Boeheim's coaching victories, dropping him down to sixth on the all-time wins list in Division I.
3. A reduction of 12 scholarships over four years.
4. Fine of $500 per contest played by ineligible students.
5. Syracuse must return to the NCAA all funds it has received to date through the former Big East Conference revenue sharing for its appearances in the 2011, 2012 and 2013 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament. This could cost the school more than $1 million.
6. Reduction in the number of permissible off-campus recruiters from four to two during June 1, 2015 through May 31, 2017.
7. Men's basketball and football programs placed on five-year probation from March 6, 2015 through March 5, 2020.

Syracuse's self-imposed penalties
1. A one-year postseason ban for men's basketball in the 2014-15 season.
2. A voluntary, two-year term of probation for the athletic department.
3. Elimination of one scholarship for men's basketball for the 2015-2016 season.
4. Elimination of a men's basketball off-campus recruiter for six months during 2015-2016.
5. Vacation of 24 men's basketball wins: (15 in 2004-05 and nine in 2011-12).
 
UL just signed Bowen. Hasn't missed a beat. Curious. Your son gets busted for being with a 'ho. I guess you'll just send him to his room for a couple of hours.
 
I agree it is debateable. I actually did just that with 2 UL fans 2 days ago. I stated that the AD and Coach should be facing a trial.
The legal system chose not to prosecute either of the central players, Magee or Powell. How are they going to arrest Jurich and Pitino, and for what.
 
Agree on that too. There should be some penalties. But people talk about them losing their title or Pitino being suspended for a year. I just think in NCAA rules it's a pimple compared to what UNC Chapel Hell has done.

I HATE UL. Just making that clear before I get blasted.

to be honest both schools should lose banner(s)
 
Well, like a fool I tried to engage in an intellectual conversation. But everyone (including Blueaz whom I respect) apparently can't tolerate an honest exchange of ideas. So I'll quit casting my pearls and move on.

It didn't used to be this way on this board. I miss the good ole days....
I just can't fathom any defense of the situation at UL.
An assistant coach paid for strippers and hookers for recruits, recruit's parents, and current players... mutiple times; and the majority of infractions occurred on a campus facility (at least once at a hotel)
To me, it's a irrelevant if they did not get one recruit out of this.
Obviously, it is nowhere near the entirety of corruption at UNC over many years...at the least, one banner should come down.
But, that (UNC's colossal institutional infractions) should not diminish the many infractions of impermissible benefits to players and recruits at UL.
 
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Well, like a fool I tried to engage in an intellectual conversation. But everyone (including Blueaz whom I respect) apparently can't tolerate an honest exchange of ideas. So I'll quit casting my pearls and move on.

It didn't used to be this way on this board. I miss the good ole days....
Don't go away mad. You're a good poster.
 
I just can't fathom any defense of the situation at UL.
An assistant coach paid for strippers and hookers for recruits, recruit's parents, and current players... mutiple times; and the majority of infractions occurred on a campus facility (at least once at a hotel)
To me, it's a irrelevant if they did not get one recruit out of this.
Obviously, it is nowhere near the entirety of corruption at UNC over many years...at the least, one banner should come down.
But, that (UNC's colossal institutional infractions) should not diminish the many infractions of impermissible benefits to players and recruits at UL.
For you...I will reply. Pardon me: I DO THINK THEY SHOULD BE SANCTIONED. I shouted that because for some reason my comments earlier seem to be missed. UL is a pig sty of corruption. And Pitino is the most despicable D1 coach today. But we're talking morals, not NCAA rules (mostly).

What's more...I believe UL only hurt themselves in this. They did not gain a dang thing with the Hookers. Recruits who don't sign were destined to spread the stories. Moms/Dads would mostly be repulsed by Hookers for their Teenager. Check their recruiting: It didn't work. They are relegated to leftovers and 5th year kids. It was the dumbest idea ever concocted.

They ought to be facing prosecution. But the NCAA? They aren't the sex police. The $$ issue and lack of institutional control is their only target...and are mild compared to UNC.

Hat tip...
 
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For you...I will reply. Pardon me: I DO THINK THEY SHOULD BE SANCTIONED. I shouted that because for some reason my comments earlier seem to be missed. UL is a pig sty of corruption. And Pitino is the most despicable D1 coach today. But we're talking morals, not NCAA rules (mostly).

What's more...I believe UL only hurt themselves in this. They did not gain a dang thing with the Hookers. Recruits who don't sign were destined to spread the stories. Moms/Dads would mostly be repulsed by Hookers for their Teenager. Check their recruiting: It didn't work. They are relegated to leftovers and 5th year kids. It was the dumbest idea ever concocted.

They ought to be facing prosecution. But the NCAA? They aren't the sex police. The $$ issue and lack of institutional control is their only target...and are mild compared to UNC.

Hat tip...
Wrong. We are talking 17 year olds exposed to sexual conduct that is ILLEGAL!!!! Damn! It happened in a tax payer dorm room under the watchful eye of Pitino!!!!!!
 
I hate UL, but tell me: do you think (even if they had not been caught) that Hookers gave them a recruiting advantage?

Remember that those who did NOT sign surely spread the sordid story. And there's plenty of Moms/Dads who would flip out if/when they found out.

Why would they do it if they didn't think it was giving them an advantage?
 
This argument that UL shouldn't be penalized because their attempts to lure recruits with strippers and prostitutes were generally unsuccessful in landing the targeted recruits is ridiculous. If you rob a liquor store, and there's no money in the safe, are you still committing armed robbery? Of course. The only real consideration is whether improper benefits were offered. Whether or not they were accepted isn't a consideration. The entire argument is a non-starter.
 
Why is there not a criminal investigation into the university of louisville paying prostitutes to have sex with minors?
I agree, but I want to say I remember hearing that statute of limitations had ran out on prostitution charges. And that the under aged charges where the only thing in play "if could be proven". Again I may be wrong but I believe that was the reasoning.
 
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