Head fakes no longer allowed
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op is correct
refs are the worst
it's like pavlovian, the way they have to react to certain things
refs are the worst
it's like pavlovian, the way they have to react to certain things
I think you have stated what the OP possibly saw, though that may be giving more credit than is due. The feet move before the dribble starts. Of course, that can happen anywhere on the floor.
90% of the time, they call walking every time.
No place on this board to talk to other posters like you do kybass!!!! Those are the people that need to be banned...no reason to act like that
UL fan trying to get me banned. Jeez.
I suspect I have been watching basketball more than twice as long as you have been alive. Maybe three times as long. I probably played nearly as long as you have been alive. You'll find if you don't start threads which are utter nonsense, folks will respond better. This head fake/walk thing is just silly, almost as silly as your attempted bashing of our fine trainers at Kentucky by using Pitino's lies concerning UL player injuries as evidence. You bring this stuff on yourself.
Half the posts are yours. Others are largely sarcastic. Utter nonsense. Funniest part would be if you actually believe it, which I think you do.
This call is common in the NBA. Michael Jordan was often called for the head fake/walk. Otherwise, he would have scored a lot more points!
Think this kid is talking about D1, where I very rarely see a walk called where a head fake was the only movement which triggered a walk. Jordon used to commit nearly his entire body with a fake. Led to a lot of foot movement just from inertia. Lot of players bought it. I think it's one reason why he scored so many points and broke a lot of ankles.
In college there is a BUNCH of foot shuffling. Unfortunately, Poythress often stutter steps and gets walking calls when initiating a move. He's a good example of this.
The notion that we have refs calling walks purely on head fakes in D1 is nonsense.
Yep, and Spangler did not move his pivot foot an inch either. It's so lazy. They see that move and just assume they moved their feet. Officiating is hard, but when you are looking right at a stationary player there is no excuse.
No you are not. I don't think he can be banned and how can MODs help him (us)?
I think it may be time to ignore
It's the one call refs make that drives me insane. Most of the time there is no violation but it's called anyway. I don't get it.
I don't know if there's a way to eliminate or at least limit the ability to start threads, short of an outright ban. That would help a lot.
Lifting the back (pivot) foot is not a walk, when you put it back down to the floor is. If lifting was a walk you would not be allowed to jump. Also dragging the pivot foot is a walk because your foot moves to another spot on the floor. Don't know how many times I've wanted to ask the refs after that call if they were looking at the players feet.
Michael Jordan, in my opinion, got by with more walks and push offs than anyone in NBA history. Add to that, if the defender breathed on him it was a foul, especially in the last half of his career after he'd built a 'legacy'.
I would include palming or carrying the ball also . He did this practically every time and was NEVER called for it . Gradually the whole rule of palming was called differently.
I had to laugh when I read that. Palming got so bad at one point, guys (Jordan included) were nearly hooking the defender with their elbow as they brought the ball around and "drop step" backwards. No walk, exactly, but man were they taking some license with when the dribble started.
I hope everyone caught the sarcasm. It was intended to be a joke because of what you said being so true.
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