LHL this AM said that ACC has not won an NCAA championship in baseball since 1955 (Wake Forest). I know that Miami has not always been a member, but wow, would never have believed that all those southern schools could whiff in the NCAA for 60 years.
Had no idea about the ACC in the NCAA
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Since UK is the only team in the SEC that has NEVER made a super regional or CWS...we really can't talk. ..the sad part is there is nobody that matters at UK that really cares
It is really surprising when you consider how good the programs are at FSU, Clemson and even UNC/UVA in the past 10-15 yrs.
Miami wasnt around until recently, but I know that UNC played in the title series a couple of times and maybe UVA did too recently. FSU and Clemson have had the #1 a couple of times going into Omaha and havent gotten it done.
Miami wasnt around until recently, but I know that UNC played in the title series a couple of times and maybe UVA did too recently. FSU and Clemson have had the #1 a couple of times going into Omaha and havent gotten it done.
Very interesting. In my opinion, they've been the best conference behind the SEC for the last decade plus, despite lack of success in the College World Series. I need to do my research. If someone would have told me that (with no phones/Google allowed), I would've shook their hand and bet them cash that they had to be wrong.
Anyways, the Big Ten in basketball is in the same boat, just not as long of a drought. Their last national title was in 2000 (Michigan State) and before that, 1989 (Michigan). Two in 25 years...
Anyways, the Big Ten in basketball is in the same boat, just not as long of a drought. Their last national title was in 2000 (Michigan State) and before that, 1989 (Michigan). Two in 25 years...
Please don't hold me to this , but I think I heard somewhere that FSU has been to the CWS like 14 times and never won it...
It might be a good thing if Louisville did win it this year, that would really put the heat on the UK athletics dept. to build a new stadium and bring in a winning HC to lead the program.
You would think so, but it might very well depend. I would think that just knowing that Louisville is doing so well would be cause to make UK and their administration step it up and improve. I mean, it is pretty embarrassing that in such a short time they have put our program to shame. They were worse off than we were before McDonnell and now they are a perennial powerhouse. They've done everything but win it all. Everything they have done should be proof that UK can succeed and motivation to do so.
The #1 thing Louisville did was build that awesome stadium with a TURF field. This means they can play home games in the winter/early Spring. And ultimately, they can host NCAA play and Super Regionals.
The #2 thing they did was hire an incredible coach.
He's cleaned up bringing Northern kids to Louisville. Southernmost offer for most of these kids.
The #2 thing they did was hire an incredible coach.
He's cleaned up bringing Northern kids to Louisville. Southernmost offer for most of these kids.
UVA lost to Vandy last year 2-1 and UNC lost to Oregon State in back-to-back years in 2007 and 2008 most recently. I believe FSU lost a title appearance in the late 90's as did Ga Tech. The three most appearances without a title are ACC schools...FSU, Clemson and UNC in that order.
Whatever voodoo Jurich uses to hire his coaches needs to make its way over to Mitch B. Other than Kragthorpe, Jurich has jackpotted on all his big 4 hires(Petrino, Pitino, Strong, baseball and women's bball). Mitch B. has done a decent to good job in his hires, but has more misses than Tom J. and lacks the overall national success.
I really don't think that the turf on the UL field makes any difference. We typically play 25-30 home games a year. They play right around the same. Most years we try to get two weekends at neutral sites. I personally think that is great for us and often we play some pretty tough teams in those weekends that help to prepare us for the SEC schedule and help to boost our tournament resume if we win. For instance, this year we played both Southern California and UC Santa Barbara. USC is currently ranked 16th and UCSB is currently ranked 14th. We didn't have a good showing against those teams, but they helped prepare us and we got 1 win in 4 games and helped to boost our RPI and our SOS. If we scheduled teams at home it would most likely be teams that have a very low ranking.
This year we played a much longer neutral/road schedule than we normally do, but I think most of those early games are pretty crappy anyway. Playing in a few of those early tournaments helps because there are a couple good teams, but outside of that the early OOC schedule for most teams is always poor, so I don't think playing home or away would matter.
Louisville having such a nice stadium is certainly helping them. I don't think the turf provides them with any real advantage though.
This year we played a much longer neutral/road schedule than we normally do, but I think most of those early games are pretty crappy anyway. Playing in a few of those early tournaments helps because there are a couple good teams, but outside of that the early OOC schedule for most teams is always poor, so I don't think playing home or away would matter.
Louisville having such a nice stadium is certainly helping them. I don't think the turf provides them with any real advantage though.
Actually "head to head" Mitch looks better, but you are right the overall national success is not pretty
The turf helps when you look at how many games are played there in the summer. When out of state kids come in and play there, you dont think the facilities leave an impression?
Absolutely agreed. Kent State has been another beneficiary of such a thing. Mike Birkbeck is one of the best pitching coaches in Division I baseball.
If I were UK, I would offer Birkbeck the managerial position right this second and wouldn't look back.
I coach with 4 ex Louisville Baseball players. They disagree with you 100%. The turf field means no rainouts. The team can play on the field year round. And right next to the stadium is the Trager Center, which is an enormous indoor facility the baseball team uses when the weather is severe.
Louisville's facilities are light years beyond Kentucky's, unfortunately.
Kentucky doesn't have a ton of rain outs. They get stormed out but few times are cancelled simply for rain. If it's raining hard enough even Louisville will delay the game despite the turf. Now it might help them in terms of practice on their field but the actual games likely aren't any different. The biggest advantage is much nicer facilities in general. Practice and game regardless of the surface.
Believe that awesome stadium was a free gift from James Patterson with stipulation free admission for all! Course Tommy T fixed it to charge admission when CATS come to play! Wish UK could find a Jim Patterson!
#2 thing. You are right. Great coach, great recruiter.
Louisville had plenty of games cancelled this year. The turf will still help get more practices in though.
Schools at this level have field crews and infield tarps anyways...they get about the same amount of games in...but it can be beneficial to have the turf during practice.
The turf can also hurt you when you travel to a grass and dirt field, because defense gets much tougher.
Schools at this level have field crews and infield tarps anyways...they get about the same amount of games in...but it can be beneficial to have the turf during practice.
The turf can also hurt you when you travel to a grass and dirt field, because defense gets much tougher.
Patterson was the lead donor on the facility. All stadiums at UofL have been built with private money.
And, naturally, this streak ends as soon as I comment on it.
Let me try another. "I would never have believed Kentucky could have gone since 1977 without posting a winning record in the SEC in football. Just no way that happens."
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