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From Neal Brown to Shannon Dawson

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Both Coordinators were Air Raid guys, but they were slightly different in approach to the Air Raid. The best way to look at there ideas of how the Air Raid should be run in the SEC is to look at other teams. Neal Brow was quoted as saying that his ideal offense at UK would have looked like how Oklahoma State runs the Air Raid. Shannon Dawson has been quoted as saying that he'd like his ideal offense at UK to look like Baylor's offense. Yeah we've heard that Neal Brown's approach was more of a horizontal game to get the ball in space, while Shannon Dawson's approach is more vertical, but there are other differences as well I want to go over just one of the biggest differences, WR alignment.

When looking at the Air Raid offenses that these coaches want to mimic there offense after at UK there are some other differences that typical fans may not see. In any spread offense the idea is to spread out the defense, and in doing so you usually use offensive formations with 3 or more receivers. That is the case between Baylor's system and OK State's system, however when you watch film you'll notice that the splits of the WRs in Baylor's system are wider than they are in OK State's system.... Baylor's formations literally reach from sideline to sideline. The Slot WR lines up way outside the hash marks. This however isn't the case in OK State's offense. What are the reasons for extra wide splits by the WRs?

#1 It makes it really difficult for defenses to disguise coverages. With wide splits by the WRs it forces the defense to show its hand way before the snap. Because of this the QB can make better decisions with audibles and the WRs running option routes knows ahead of time how to change up its route. It also makes it difficult for defenses to bring corner blitzes because they'll be rushing the QB from a further distance.

#2 in screens and outside throw packages it forces the defenders to be much faster to get to the perimeter in time to make plays. So even though a team's saying may be "speed kills" and they have a lot of it, because these perimeters are stretched, those teams will have to have more than speed, they'll need to have extreme speed....

#3 Because the WRs splits are extremely wide, including the TE, if the defense is using LBs to cover any of these slot WRs or TE's they are immediately stretched to the perimeters as well, making them less effective in run stuffing. This works wonders for your inside zone and power read plays. It means that LBs will have to come from a further distance to stop the run, with RBs as fast as they are in the SEC, that will be difficult for the LBs to get many tackles for loss.

Something else to note between the two offenses.....
The life blood of Baylor's Air Raid offense is actually the running game. They use the running game to get its passing game going, and when its going its electric and a lot of deep shots. OK State's offense, its an Air Raid offense and the WR splits are more traditional type of splits. OK State also utilizes a physical running game as well, but its done in a different way..... Example OK State includes jumbo sets, where Baylor doesn't but still utilizes a power running game. Baylors jumbo sets are usually happen in short yardage situations. In UK's offense Jacob Hyde will be a fullback sometimes, which indicates jumbo formation, but it will be interesting if they include jumbo sets. Maybe they use a 2 back spread formation with Jacob Hyde where he's the lead blocker on those inside running plays.

All in all, these are the differences in those offenses and these are the differences that we may see in UK's offense as we transition from Neal Brown to Shannon Dawson. Because the way Neal Brown's offense was it had more concepts and more difficult to learn than Shannon Dawson. That same statement is true when comparing OK State's offense to Baylor's offense, OK State's has more concepts and according to others, its more difficult to learn. I've spoken to UK players themselves who tell me that Shannon Dawons offense is much easier and concept just make sense, as to say Neal Brown's didn't all the time.

As you can see, you can have 2 coaches run an Air Raid system, however they aren't created equal and we see that with different ways to run the Air Raid..... You'd be shocked to know that the core of Bobby Petrino's offense has the Air Raid concepts. So all Air Raid's aren't created equal.

Before we get into which Air Raid is better or which OC is better, its important to note that Neal Brown started the rebuilding process of this offense and didn't have all his parts in place. Shannon Dawson will benefit from Neal Brown's rebuilding efforts, while Neal Brown may not have had the personnel in place to run what he wanted to have Shannon Dawson does and its thanks in part to Neal Brown.
 
Solid write-up, UKani. Would like to add that Dawson has spoke several times about utilizing a power running game (that's the main thing that Stoops was looking for when looking for another air raid offensive coordinator).
UK will use a jumbo package as well for short yardage situations, but Dawson has said that his primary focus as far as running the ball goes will be the power run game.

As you said, Dawson intends to run the same offense as Baylor, which is terrific considering the personnel that we have. I certainly prefer it over the Oklahoma State offense. I could see a lot of success with this offense this season, and especially next season (as I believe we return 10 of 11 starters on offense? As well as bringing in terrific offensive linemen across the board).
 
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Dawson learned from Mumme and Holgorson. He will run the heck out of perimeter passes to keep the run box clean. If you you go single safety or cheat the SS down or try to roll you can expect 4 verticals. I read an interview he had 22 tags on his 4 vertcial concept.
Here are some cut ups narratted of Dawson at Millsaps Colletge

 
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UKani in the house with another solid post.


Can't wait for the follow-up questions from posters.
1. Are we going to see bubble screens?
2. Are they going to have QB designed runs again?
3. How will the TE's factor in?
 
Solid write-up, UKani. Would like to add that Dawson has spoke several times about utilizing a power running game (that's the main thing that Stoops was looking for when looking for another air raid offensive coordinator).
UK will use a jumbo package as well for short yardage situations, but Dawson has said that his primary focus as far as running the ball goes will be the power run game.

As you said, Dawson intends to run the same offense as Baylor, which is terrific considering the personnel that we have. I certainly prefer it over the Oklahoma State offense. I could see a lot of success with this offense this season, and especially next season (as I believe we return 10 of 11 starters on offense? As well as bringing in terrific offensive linemen across the board).

How can we run a power running game with one of the worst O-Lines in the SEC? It sounds nice, but playing in the SEC will change a lot of that talk.

That's not going to work for a few more years until our young O-Line recruits get a few years under them.
 
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How can we run a power running game with one of the worst O-Lines in the SEC? It sounds nice, but playing in the SEC will change a lot of that talk.

That's not going to work for a few more years until our young O-Line recruits get a few years under them.

I think Florida will have a worse o-line than UK this season.
 
How can we run a power running game with one of the worst O-Lines in the SEC? It sounds nice, but playing in the SEC will change a lot of that talk.

That's not going to work for a few more years until our young O-Line recruits get a few years under them.

Because it's really not a bad o-line. It was just really young, and not deep at all last season. Plus, I'm gonna factor in your over-exaggeration, because you typically are incredibly negative.
Florida should, and likely will have a worse offensive line next year though. It may not be close either.
Plus, a simple change of scheme could fix offensive line woes. Notice Tennessee having a worse o-line than us for the first half of the season, and now, heading into this season, they're the favorites (according to some, but no lower than 2nd) to win the East.
 
Because it's really not a bad o-line. It was just really young, and not deep at all last season. Plus, I'm gonna factor in your over-exaggeration, because you typically are incredibly negative.
Florida should, and likely will have a worse offensive line next year though. It may not be close either.
Plus, a simple change of scheme could fix offensive line woes. Notice Tennessee having a worse o-line than us for the first half of the season, and now, heading into this season, they're the favorites (according to some, but no lower than 2nd) to win the East.

so you named one single team, Florida, that might have a worse O-Line than us.

How does that make my statement untrue?:
"we have one of the worst O-Lines in the SEC".

I just don't wear blue-tinted glasses. We will not be using the "power run" game effectively in the SEC this season. Not gonna happen with our current O-Line, but keep dreaming.
 
so you named one single team, Florida, that might have a worse O-Line than us.

How does that make my statement untrue?:
"we have one of the worst O-Lines in the SEC".

I just don't wear blue-tinted glasses. We will not be using the "power run" game effectively in the SEC this season. Not gonna happen with our current O-Line, but keep dreaming.

We don't know what we have, you clown. Did you miss the part where I mentioned Tennessee having the worst offensive line in the SEC before changing their scheme due to the QB change? Do you not think that having an offensive line made of freshmen and sophomores plays a role? It does. Do you not think that a lack of depth hurts later in the season? It does. The coaches have said that the offensive line is good. Dawson comes from a school where they had one of the most highly praised offensive lines in the country at WVU, so I'm sure he knows what a good line looks like.
It's also very telling that he had to come in and change the mentality of the offensive line altogether, moving the guards to a 3 point stance and firing off the offensive line, playing more physical, rather than stepping back in pass protection all of the time.
Small things can make or break an offensive line. Be negative if you want, because you always are, but don't try to drag everybody else around you down into your negativity. The coaches would know better than you do.
 
Because it's really not a bad o-line. It was just really young, and not deep at all last season. Plus, I'm gonna factor in your over-exaggeration, because you typically are incredibly negative.
Florida should, and likely will have a worse offensive line next year though. It may not be close either.
Plus, a simple change of scheme could fix offensive line woes. Notice Tennessee having a worse o-line than us for the first half of the season, and now, heading into this season, they're the favorites (according to some, but no lower than 2nd) to win the East.

I agree. Offensive Line is just one of those positions where experience and lots of time in the weight room is key. I almost never see true freshmen making a huge impact at that position. If I'm not mistaken Tennessee and Kentucky had the youngest O-lines in the SEC last season and it really showed.
 
How can we run a power running game with one of the worst O-Lines in the SEC? It sounds nice, but playing in the SEC will change a lot of that talk.

That's not going to work for a few more years until our young O-Line recruits get a few years under them.

Ummm.... UK doesn't have the worst O-Line in the SEC. I don't know where you got that from other than reading and believing preseason magazines.... If that's the case then you may be one of the ones who think UK will win 3 to 5 games because of preseason magazines as well....

Anyhow looking at the O-Lines here are the ones that have worst ones....Vandy, Florida, Miss State, South Carolina. And its debatable if Tennessee has a better O-Line than UK. Florida lost there whole O-Line, and Miss State almost lost its whole O-Line, they will bolster freshmen on that line. South Carolina has got to rebuild a whole side of its line, that wasn't that good to begin with as they gave up a good amount of sacks. UK's O-Line is actually middle of the pack. To say we are worst in the SEC is uninformed or simply listening to preseason magazines who are proven wrong year after year with its predictions on stuff like that.
 
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