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Asked me if Kentucky considered themselves north or south. I told them we were just Kentucky. I'm in Cadiz and the feeling is very southern here... never thought about it... always considered myself South and most of that is because we play in the SEC
 
Not sure where this midwest stuff for kentucky has come from. I'm assuming its people my age (early 20s) who don't like the south and are trying to distance Kentucky from it due to shame.


Kentucky is below the ohio river
The center star on the confederate flag is for Kentucky
Kentucky was once part of Virginia
Civil war recruiting ads in Kentucky all point to the state being apart of the south
Kentucky's civil war governor told Lincoln he would not send any troops to Lincoln for the purpose of ''subduing its sister southern states.''

I've had people from Alabama call people from TN, NC, and VA ''yankees.'' Deep southerners aren't really the ones to ask about southern states. To them the south is 5 states. AL, MS, LA, SC, GA.


P.S. all my ancestral family is from GA, TN, NC, and VA.
 
Should have told him to ask the people here and he would get a resounding SOUTH. Kinda hard to pick your side when the Union army is on your doorstep.
I would used to have said that and I still would I guess. But I lived in Michigan for 6-1/2 years and other than the fact they have a bit of a funny accent I think I fit in fine.
 
Hell, just look at how we eat. If it can be fried, we'll eat it, whatever "it" is. I'd say that alone qualifies us as southerners.
Ate some fried turkey breast at CB last week and it was very good...can remember when I was in basic we "southern Kentucky" boys sat around talking about eating biscuits and sausage/bacon gravey, fried chicken/pork chops, fried potatoes w/onions sliced tomatoes for breakfast. The northern boys, unless they were black, had no clue what we were talking about.
 
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Not sure where this midwest stuff for kentucky has come from. I'm assuming its people my age (early 20s) who don't like the south and are trying to distance Kentucky from it due to shame.


Kentucky is below the ohio river
The center star on the confederate flag is for Kentucky
Kentucky was once part of Virginia
Civil war recruiting ads in Kentucky all point to the state being apart of the south
Kentucky's civil war governor told Lincoln he would not send any troops to Lincoln for the purpose of ''subduing its sister southern states.''

I've had people from Alabama call people from TN, NC, and VA ''yankees.'' Deep southerners aren't really the ones to ask about southern states. To them the south is 5 states. AL, MS, LA, SC, GA.


P.S. all my ancestral family is from GA, TN, NC, and VA.
Ky was not officially in the Confederate States of America Pact. Ky was simply a pass through state. Tennessee and Virginia were the northernmost states in the CSA. KY was a border state.
 
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Ky was not officially in the Confederate States of America Pact. Ky was simply a pass through state. Tennessee and Virginia were the northernmost states in the CSA
I'm well aware. But we are still on the flag due to having a CSA government. It was a ''shadow'' government but was officially recognized by the Confederate congress. One of its governors died at Shiloh. One of his friends who joined the US army found his body on the field and he died on a hospital ship.
 
Not sure where this midwest stuff for kentucky has come from. I'm assuming its people my age (early 20s) who don't like the south and are trying to distance Kentucky from it due to shame.


Kentucky is below the ohio river
The center star on the confederate flag is for Kentucky
Kentucky was once part of Virginia
Civil war recruiting ads in Kentucky all point to the state being apart of the south
Kentucky's civil war governor told Lincoln he would not send any troops to Lincoln for the purpose of ''subduing its sister southern states.''

I've had people from Alabama call people from TN, NC, and VA ''yankees.'' Deep southerners aren't really the ones to ask about southern states. To them the south is 5 states. AL, MS, LA, SC, GA.


P.S. all my ancestral family is from GA, TN, NC, and VA.
If you've ever been to western Kentucky, you'll know that part of the state is basically the Midwest. Everything else if southern except for that little tip up there by Cincy. Them's yanks.

Kentucky sent 100k to fight for Lincoln and Grant. 40k at most to Davis and Lee. Most of the state was pro-union. Western Kentucky and the bluegrass region were predominantly Confederate.

Also, lots of Midwestern states are full of Confederate sympathizers. Wisconsin among them. It's not like calling us Midwestern does anything but put a rug over Dixie.

It's all relative, honestly. Were a little of everything because we're the intersection of the North, South, Midwest, and Appalachia. One thing we can all agree on though is thank God we're not the west coast.
 
I'd say a mix of both.

Not sure what being southern or northern has to do with a war 160 years ago at this point though. It should be based on the culture and vibe and has little to do with the long ago war.

And to the people trying to pump up KY as a confederate state because of some reject shadow government not sure that is something to brag about. Confederacy was obliterated so I'd try to claim north if you are into that crap.
 
I'd say a mix of both.

Not sure what being southern or northern has to do with a war 160 years ago at this point though. It should be based on the culture and vibe and has little to do with the long ago war.

And to the people trying to pump up KY as a confederate state because of some reject shadow government not sure that is something to brag about. Confederacy was obliterated so I'd try to claim north if you are into that crap.
You need to pull for Ohio State.
 
Louisville and NKY feels pretty Midwestern to me. Lexington is kind of southern.

So I dunno, I'd say most ppl are country tho in the rest of the state.
 
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If you've ever been to western Kentucky, you'll know that part of the state is basically the Midwest. Everything else if southern except for that little tip up there by Cincy. Them's yanks.

Kentucky sent 100k to fight for Lincoln and Grant. 40k at most to Davis and Lee. Most of the state was pro-union. Western Kentucky and the bluegrass region were predominantly Confederate.

Also, lots of Midwestern states are full of Confederate sympathizers. Wisconsin among them. It's not like calling us Midwestern does anything but put a rug over Dixie.

It's all relative, honestly. Were a little of everything because we're the intersection of the North, South, Midwest, and Appalachia. One thing we can all agree on though is thank God we're not the west coast.
Those numbers aren't accurate. Tons of Kentuckians fought in TN confederate regiments and were counted as just being from tenneessee. Same thing for the union numbers. Tons of people from Indiana and Illinois joined up at Kentucky recruiting camps. My 5th great grandfather Richard Minchey was from Macon co. TN. Right below the Kentucky border he joined the 28thTN at 45 and fought at Franklin, Shiloh, and Chickamauga among others.
 
Wife is from Lafayette in Christian County and I'm from Tompkinsville in Monroe County. If you watched the SEC network and saw the episode on True South you know what I'm talking about. Ain't no yankee's in this household.
Yeah, I’m in Cumberland County next to you. We have yankee visitors due to dale hollow lake pretty much year round. Most here could do without. They leave a stink.
 
I'd say a mix of both.

Not sure what being southern or northern has to do with a war 160 years ago at this point though. It should be based on the culture and vibe and has little to do with the long ago war.

And to the people trying to pump up KY as a confederate state because of some reject shadow government not sure that is something to brag about. Confederacy was obliterated so I'd try to claim north if you are into that crap.
@me next time tough guy. Nobody is pumping Kentucky as a confederate state. I simply responded to why Kentucky was represented on the confederate flag.
 
I just had macaroni and tomatoes 🍅 with grilled cheese from San Manzanos tomatoes that I grew myself. If that isn't southern then go to Wendy's.
 
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Those numbers aren't accurate. Tons of Kentuckians fought in TN confederate regiments and were counted as just being from tenneessee. Same thing for the union numbers. Tons of people from Indiana and Illinois joined up at Kentucky recruiting camps. My 5th great grandfather Richard Minchey was from Macon co. TN. Right below the Kentucky border he joined the 28thTN at 45 and fought at Franklin, Shiloh, and Chickamauga among others.
I used to consider myself a civil war history buff. Nothing professional by any means. Just an amateur fascinated by a conflict that almost destroyed our country.

I've read several articles from reputable sources over the years as well as been to the National Civil War Museum in Harrisburg, PA. Everything I've read has corroborated what I wrote.

Regardless, I'm interested in learning more. Do you have sources I could look up? Kentucky's numbers always seemed interesting, and while the mountains, coalfields, knobs, and pennyrile were largely union, something felt odd. Not saying one way or the other, but I'm willing to set aside what I "know" to learn something new or a different perspective.
 
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I just had macaroni and tomatoes 🍅 with grilled cheese with San Manzanos tomatoes that I grew myself. If that isn't southern then go to Wendy's.
No dandelion wine, sun tea, fried green tomatoes, sausage gravy, or fried catfish you ripped from the river yesterday? For shame. Southern card revoked. 🤣

Lucky man. Damn squirrels pilfered all our tomatoes this year and the tree rats were smart enough to be trap shy.
 
I used to consider myself a civil war history buff. Nothing professional by any means. Just an amateur fascinated by a conflict that almost destroyed our country.

I've read several articles from reputable sources over the years as well as been to the National Civil War Museum in Harrisburg, PA. Everything I've read has corroborated what I wrote.

Regardless, I'm interested in learning more. Do you have sources I could look up? Kentucky's numbers always seemed interesting, and while the mountains, coalfields, knobs, and pennyrile were largely union, something felt odd. Not saying one way or the other, but I'm willing to set aside what I "know" to learn something new or a different perspective.
You'd be surprised about the stuff you find about that war when you dig into it. Southern California and Southern Illinois wanted to secede and join the confederacy.

I had many cousins from North Carolina die in the fields of Gettysburg. Had uncles with my last name fight with Lee in the 27thGA.
I also had a cousin/uncle related to my 3rd great grandmother fight with the 6thKY infantry CSA (from Barren county, KY) he was shot through the body 2 times at shiloh. Surgeons said he would die in days. Recovered, was wounded again. At the battle of Jonesboro he was noted to fire his rifle as fast as his LTs could load it for him. Sometime or another he picked up a artillery shell that had landed it his rifle pit and picked it up with a wounded arm before it exploded. Saving many lives in the process.

Regarding the Kentucky enlistment numbers...Like I said, there's not really much to point you too. I remember reading on a forum that the best estimates of soldiers confirmed to be from Kentucky are 51K for the CSA and 75K for the union. Still, Ive read stories of Kentuckians going down to TN and being shuffled into a TN infantry regiment. In the same company of native tenneessee boys. Same for Indiana boys going to Kentucky recruiting camps. One story regards a 17 year old from KY who joined a TN cavalry unit who brought his own horse. Many of Nathan Bedford Forests men were from KY.
 
Southeastern Kentucky is as south as anywhere in this country. Northern Ky, central, and loserville dont have the Kentucky southern accent really. Different people completely.
You usually know immediately when you're talking to somebody from Southeastern Kentucky. The rest of the state not so much.
Hillbillies grow strong in Southeastern Kentucky. Just feed them potatoes and soup beans🤩
 
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Asked me if Kentucky considered themselves north or south. I told them we were just Kentucky. I'm in Cadiz and the feeling is very southern here... never thought about it... always considered myself South and most of that is because we play in the SEC
Kentucky is truly a border state. When I worked in Detroit between my junior and senior highschool year I was teased about my Southern accent an Southern ways. When I moved to Huntsville,Al after college some thought I had a Northern accent.
 
Kentucky is truly a border state. When I worked in Detroit between my junior and senior highschool year I was teased about my Southern accent an Southern ways. When I moved to Huntsville,Al after college some thought I had a Northern accent.
That's because Kentucky is in the upper south with TN, NC, And VA. Deep south accents are different than the upper south ones. My grandmother sounds just like she walked from the fields of North Carolina.
 
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