Dukebasketballreport response to UNC scandal

[downthehatch]

Written by JD King

The title of the article:

UNC’s Reaction To The NCAA: Go To Heel
Prevaricate, obfuscate and irritate.

http://www.dukebasketballreport.com...-to-the-ncaa-go-to-heel-letter-of-allegations


Seems pretty balanced, says that it's hard to predict what might happen now

 

[morgousky]

We know what's gonna happen. Slap on the wrist, or nothing. The NCAA has had enough to make a move for a long time. I expect nothing, but the damage to UNC and Roy Williams / Dean Smith's legacy has taken a huge hit, and the look on Williams face shows it. He knows he's going down in history as a cheater.

 

[ukalum]

I,m not so sure that they only get a slap on the wrist anymore. They could have accepted the first ANOA and gotten off lightly. Instead they have taken a scorched earth policy at even the lightest sanctions. I suspect that will piss off the COI enough that heavy sanctions will be enacted.

 

[sluggercatfan]

We know what's gonna happen. Slap on the wrist, or nothing. The NCAA has had enough to make a move for a long time. I expect nothing, but the damage to UNC and Roy Williams / Dean Smith's legacy has taken a huge hit, and the look on Williams face shows it. He knows he's going down in history as a cheater.

With the media, Ncaa and ESPN you will never hear another disparaging remark about uncheat...RW/DS will keep their sainthood.

 

[Wildcats4ever2007]

I would bet the house they will take a self imposed postseason band this coming year if it drags out into the season since they will most likely will struggle to make the tourney anyways.. This way they act like like they are punishing themselves enough for the NCAA to go easier on them and it will most likely work..

Thanks to NCAA dragging their feet the last few years

 

[true blue1]

NCAA will do nothing.

 

[Bluesnky]

Last paragraph:

Even if every other penalty was tossed out though there is one that we expect would stand up to any legal challenges and which would leave a lasting mark, and that’s simply to force UNC to forfeit any and every competition in which ineligible athletes participated. [\quote]

 

[Smashcat]

I,m not so sure that they only get a slap on the wrist anymore. They could have accepted the first ANOA and gotten off lightly. Instead they have taken a scorched earth policy at even the lightest sanctions. I suspect that will piss off the COI enough that heavy sanctions will be enacted.

Agree though I'm not betting the ranch on it.

 

[deplion]

Last paragraph:

I'm good with that.

 

[wromanp7]

I'm good with that.

 

[jarms24]

I would bet the house they will take a self imposed postseason band this coming year if it drags out into the season since they will most likely will struggle to make the tourney anyways.. This way they act like like they are punishing themselves enough for the NCAA to go easier on them and it will most likely work..

Thanks to NCAA dragging their feet the last few years

It will be closed by that time according to the committee chair. The COI anticipate hearing the case 8/16-8/17.

 

[seccats04]

Get 'em Greg Sankey!

 

[KYHomeBoyinNC]

I was in a High Point Walmart yesterday sporting my UK gear as I do every weekend, and as I walked through the electronics department a dude with a UNC-Cheats hat on asked me what UK stood for. I answered 'The Cats' pointing to my hat. I then said I know what NC stood for...'Notorious Cheaters'. He could only chuckle as I smiled and kept it moving.

 

[Wildcats4ever2007]

It will be closed by that time according to the committee chair. The COI anticipate hearing the case 8/16-8/17.

Thanks that's good to know I was not aware of that..

 

[westerncat]

We know what's gonna happen. Slap on the wrist, or nothing. The NCAA has had enough to make a move for a long time. I expect nothing, but the damage to UNC and Roy Williams / Dean Smith's legacy has taken a huge hit, and the look on Williams face shows it. He knows he's going down in history as a cheater.

I agree with the Slap on the wrist, or nothing. Todays world that we are living in is just this. The more money you have and the dirtier you are you can get by with anything.

 

[BBUK]

Question: is it to the point to where certain people should watch their steps? I have seen several in the last couple months come upon an untimely passing concerning other high profile investigations or legal situations...I have no idea if it goes to these type depths...

 

[2Dope15]

Yeah the longer it goes just more people they can pay off and get away with it.

 

[ORCAT]

With the media, Ncaa and ESPN you will never hear another disparaging remark about uncheat...RW/DS will keep their sainthood.

Unfortunately, I think you may just be right.

 

[UKEE]

NCAA will do nothing.

Sadly, I feel this too. UK would have been blown up and bulldozed over in 3 weeks much less 3 years....and pretty much everyone knows it.

 

[docholiday51]

It won't be what they deserve but I think there will be stiffer sanctions than some here expect,UL's situation is a fly in the ointment.The NCAA is between a rock and a hard place on this one,the amount of time they have spent on this one begins to work against UNC as it draws to an end

A one or two year tournament ban and 2 scholarship reductions the first year and one the second year.It doesn't really address the issue but I think it will be in that ballpark.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

We know what's gonna happen. Slap on the wrist, or nothing. The NCAA has had enough to make a move for a long time. I expect nothing, but the damage to UNC and Roy Williams / Dean Smith's legacy has taken a huge hit, and the look on Williams face shows it. He knows he's going down in history as a cheater.

I thought that as well until the NCAA sent the 2nd ANOA. It's tone took a radical change against UNCheat. The thing is, they didn't have to respond like that. They had already prepped the sports world for a slap on the wrist with the ANOA. UNCheats arrogance caused them to overplay their hand.

 

[Sawnee Cat]

I don't think the television folks will let UNC get too much of a penalty. They will not be banned from network or cable TV and they will not be ineligible for the NCAA tournament. It is North Carolina. Bu they will get a strong message that what they did was not good. All will be forgotten within the year.

 

[nickhorvathsuxazz]

I'm in the minority: I believe they lose at least one banner, and I'd guess it'll be the McCants year. It may be a pie-in-the-sky dream, but I feel like the NCAA's determined assistance in getting them this latest tainted championship was because they knew they'd be losing one so hand delivering a new one was the consolation: no net loss.

 

[clevenger32]

2005 and 2009 vacated...seriously should consider 1993. Vacated wins since 1992. 5 year ban from tournament. Anything short of that would be less than justice. Anything less than that the NCAA is finished in many eyes. I know I am through with all college athletics except for UK basketball, football, and baseball.

 

[Elliott Tim]

NCAA will do nothing.

Wonder if they'll be selling " Who Cheated Under Roy" tee-shirts ?

 

[Blueisbest]

Although they two totally different situations, what the NCAA rules against Louisville may have a bearing on what they finally do to UNC. If Louisville doesn't have their 2013 banner taken away then there is no way they will do the same to UNC's titles. They won't let UNC be the first program to have to vacate a championship. They love them some Tarholes too much to make an example out of them.

 

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

Local sports media in NC has me convinced that both sides are propping up for the inevitable downstream appeals process.

 

[st-louie-blue]

I was in a High Point Walmart yesterday sporting my UK gear as I do every weekend, and as I walked through the electronics department a dude with a UNC-Cheats hat on asked me what UK stood for. I answered 'The Cats' pointing to my hat. I then said I know what NC stood for...'Notorious Cheaters'. He could only chuckle as I smiled and kept it moving.

Did you really do/say that or was it wishful thinking? Any way you cut it, it was good reply.

 

[KYHomeBoyinNC]

Did you really do/say that or was it wishful thinking? Any way you cut it, it was good reply.

Yes, I said it as soon as I saw that UNC hat. The first thing that came to my mind was 'Cheats'. I've followed the scandal here and on Pack Pride since PJ had his troubles. I also have to work around a bunch of these smug MF'ers who, like their team of choice, have no sense of shame. Go to HELL, Carolina, Go to HELL!!!

 

[uky8unc5]

Here's a depressing thought:
The latest scuttle from my NC State friends: if any charges stick, UNC's next move is to drag the NCAA into court. If so, that would delay any Judgment Day for another couple of years.

 

[JPScott]

Here's a depressing thought:
The latest scuttle from my NC State friends: if any charges stick, UNC's next move is to drag the NCAA into court. If so, that would delay any Judgment Day for another couple of years.

I don't know that this is a bad thing. Reveals UNC for what they really are, a bunch of people with absolutely no morals who will stoop at nothing to avoid taking responsibility for their own wrongdoing.

Compare that to Kentucky. UK has a bad reputation among many outside the Commonwealth of Kentucky for breaking the rules. And while they didn't always fully agree with the findings of those who sat in judgement of them, at the end of the day they took full responsibility for their past indiscretions and paid a heavy price for them.

The fact that UK has been able to overcome these obstacles and rebound each time to become even stronger is a testament to their true greatness.

UNC, OTOH has revealed themselves as a bunch of hypocrites who will do any and everything to avoid taking responsibility for their transgressions.

PS, keep in mind that up to now the NCAA has actually gone easy on UNC by allowing them to define and shape the issue. It was UNC that hired Wainstein to investigate but limited him strictly to AFAM Studies. And while the NCAA found plenty of infractions in Wainstein's report alone, don't forget that in doing so the NCAA essentially agreed not to pursue many other areas of potential infractions (such as Wheeks for Heels, Tami Hansbrough etc.)

I'd personally like to see, if this makes its way to the courtroom, the NCAA finally start treating UNC not as a cooperative partner, but as a uncooperative meddler which has tried to steer this "investigation" away from numerous issues it chose to ignore and coverup.

Maybe this will be the means to reopen these issues and reveal for all to see the true extent of this scandal, and the sanctimonious rot that has permeated Chapel Hill for decades now.

 

[jarms24]

Here's a depressing thought:
The latest scuttle from my NC State friends: if any charges stick, UNC's next move is to drag the NCAA into court. If so, that would delay any Judgment Day for another couple of years.

Would need a preliminary injunction to delay any punishments, correct? Would a judge grant that even though there is very little chance UNC would win the case without merit?

 

[KMKAT]

I take the line that UNC is trying to wait out the NCAA as long as possible and remove all the players that are out of the picture.

You know UNC doesn't want Sankey to be part of the decision. Its a shame they couldn't get Swofford in there in time to just have all of this just disappear in thin air.

But Swofford is going to try and make a deal to keep the sanctity of their ACC member to not impact their jewel.
Note that Swofford will not have the same passion for UL like he had little concern for the Cuse penalties.

And Roy ain't admittin' nothing, ever! He's told his lies long enough, he doesn't have a Plan B!