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DraftExpress new top 100. 5 UK 1st rounders.

We may not be able to count on having Booker next season. Man I'd hate to see that guy go.
 
Devin Booker 20th pick in the first round in the new mock. Nooooo, I want him to play here forever.
 
A little misleading as this is simply a ranking of the top 100 prospects, NOT a mock draft. This doesn't factor in what teams are likely to draft. We all know it is kinda unpredictable at the end of the draft with winning teams having to weigh between taking higher potential prospects or more polished, win-now players.

This post was edited on 1/14 3:49 PM by wildcatsboston1984
 
Losing Booker and keeping the twins is not the trade I wanted to make, but that draft has Ulis ahead of both Harrisons and I just...don't think so. No matter how good I think Ulis is.
 
Call me optimistic but I don't think Booker goes. I just don't see it.

His family doesn't need the money, he genuinely enjoys college and loves playing next to his best bud Ulis (who will be back), and he's still so young. He could easily play himself into a top 10 pick next year. Easily.
 
Originally posted by UKAlum07:
Call me optimistic but I don't think Booker goes. I just don't see it.

His family doesn't need the money, he genuinely enjoys college and loves playing next to his best bud Ulis (who will be back), and he's still so young. He could easily play himself into a top 10 pick next year. Easily.
I think that is why he will be back,he has a chance to enjoy the college experience and be a kid while enhancing his future at the same time.Take advantage of that while you can,most don't get that opportunity.
 
Originally posted by UKAlum07:
Call me optimistic but I don't think Booker goes. I just don't see it.

His family doesn't need the money, he genuinely enjoys college and loves playing next to his best bud Ulis (who will be back), and he's still so young. He could easily play himself into a top 10 pick next year. Easily.
See James Young. This dude is gone if he keeps up his current pace.
 
Originally posted by wildcatsboston1984:
A little misleading as this is simply a ranking of the top 100 prospects, NOT a mock draft. This doesn't factor in what teams are likely to draft. We all know it is kinda unpredictable at the end of the draft with winning teams having to weigh between taking higher potential prospects or more polished, win-now players.

This post was edited on 1/14 3:49 PM by wildcatsboston1984
Pretty true.

Ford has Booker as a late 1st at this point as well. Lyles has worked his way into first round mocks. Dakari's been chilling at the bottom of the first all season.

5 UK first rounders aren't out of the question.

Booker is so one-dimensional, he's going to have to maintain his insane efficiency from beyond the arc to stay in first round considerations. He's been so lights out, so I'm not doubting he can't keep it up.
 
Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:

Originally posted by westerncat:


Here is an article on the Harrisons that is interesting.


http://ukrecruiting.bloginky.com/2015/01/13/nba-draft-analyst-says-harrisons-need-to-show-more/
At this point, i'm confident Andrew isn't even going to get drafted.

Aaron still has a fighting chance at the 2nd round, he just needs to bring some consistency.
I think Aaron is showing more than Andrew. He's a better shooter (if somewhat streaky) and a bit better defender. The problem is that shooting guards are a dime a dozen and it's hard for someone without a more diverse skill set to succeed (see Doron Lamb, who was a more consistent shooter, but not as good a defender, imo). I think he has to show more slashing ability, etc. Andrew might go higher just because he's got PG potential.
 
Andrew need to start finishing those damn layups he gets when he makes a nice drive to the paint.

Not sure why he is missing those, he missed couple again yesterday.

Aaron just needs to get consistency. Stop jacking up random threes that's semi contested. Other than that, his drive to the paint and dish makes him pretty nice SG. He actually does better job rebounding and assisting than booker, not by much. But his bad habit of jacking up shots hurts his FG%.
 
Originally posted by WildMoon:
Andrew need to start finishing those damn layups he gets when he makes a nice drive to the paint.

Not sure why he is missing those, he missed couple again yesterday.

Aaron just needs to get consistency. Stop jacking up random threes that's semi contested. Other than that, his drive to the paint and dish makes him pretty nice SG. He actually does better job rebounding and assisting than booker, not by much. But his bad habit of jacking up shots hurts his FG%.
Andrew has never been a good finisher though. Last season he hit a really low 44% shot at the rim. I don't have this years number, but its probably around the same low number.


I really believe Aaron is much better than his numbers suggest. He's defending at a high level this season. His shot selection does get shaky at times, but he just needs to connect on the open shots with more consistency + attack more.
 
Totally disagree that Booker is one dimensional. besides shooting, he's very fast, great scorer on the fast break, pretty solid with passing and dribbling, and is turning into a very strong defender. if he can show a few more of those mid range jumpers, maybe even add 15 pounds and learn how to post up other guards, he's a low lottery pick.
 
Originally posted by Jkwo:
Totally disagree that Booker is one dimensional. besides shooting, he's very fast, great scorer on the fast break, pretty solid with passing and dribbling, and is turning into a very strong defender. if he can show a few more of those mid range jumpers, maybe even add 15 pounds and learn how to post up other guards, he's a low lottery pick.
Lol com'on man. Booker is not fast. He's pretty average athletically.

He's shown to be a good finisher, he just lacks the ball handling skills + quicks to breakdown a defense.

All his 3 point shots are assisted, which shows his inability to create for himself. His defense has also declined. He actually has the worst defense rating of all the rotation players.

Im not trying to bash him, but he has a ton of ways to go in the rest of his game.

If he can maintain this ridiculously good 3 point shooting late teens, early 20s won't be unrealistic.
 
I think Devin would definitely benefit from coming back and developing before going on to the NBA. But the question really becomes how much can he improve his draft stock. If he is projected 15-20, is coming back going to move him to top-10 status? That's where it would make sense for him to return is if he can work his way into the top-10. The salary for slots 13-20 are close enough together that leaving early is the better career move.

If you don't think Devin wants to start making $millions then you are naive. Sure everyone enjoys playing at UK, hanging out with friends, and all the social benefits of being a UK player. But I have never had the option of turning down a $million job, I hear it's very hard to do.
 
Originally posted by KMKAT:
Originally posted by UKAlum07:
Call me optimistic but I don't think Booker goes. I just don't see it.

His family doesn't need the money, he genuinely enjoys college and loves playing next to his best bud Ulis (who will be back), and he's still so young. He could easily play himself into a top 10 pick next year. Easily.
See James Young. This dude is gone if he keeps up his current pace.
huh ? those are 2 totally different dudes. Whatever Booker and ULis do they will do it together and both will be here 2 seasons . Not more , not less .
 
Originally posted by caneintally:

Originally posted by KMKAT:
Originally posted by UKAlum07:
Call me optimistic but I don't think Booker goes. I just don't see it.

His family doesn't need the money, he genuinely enjoys college and loves playing next to his best bud Ulis (who will be back), and he's still so young. He could easily play himself into a top 10 pick next year. Easily.
See James Young. This dude is gone if he keeps up his current pace.
huh ? those are 2 totally different dudes. Whatever Booker and ULis do they will do it together and both will be here 2 seasons . Not more , not less .
He is actually very similar to James Young. Same height and vertical although James Young has a larger wingspan. Style of play Booker is more similar to Klay Thompson than James Young.
 
Originally posted by gossie21:

Originally posted by caneintally:

Originally posted by KMKAT:
Originally posted by UKAlum07:
Call me optimistic but I don't think Booker goes. I just don't see it.

His family doesn't need the money, he genuinely enjoys college and loves playing next to his best bud Ulis (who will be back), and he's still so young. He could easily play himself into a top 10 pick next year. Easily.
See James Young. This dude is gone if he keeps up his current pace.
huh ? those are 2 totally different dudes. Whatever Booker and ULis do they will do it together and both will be here 2 seasons . Not more , not less .
He is actually very similar to James Young. Same height and vertical although James Young has a larger wingspan. Style of play Booker is more similar to Klay Thompson than James Young.
Different people, not players. Young was dead set on being one and done from the moment he signed, and he made no secret of it. Booker has never given that impression. That's not to say he won't, or shouldn't, go; it's just that he doesn't appear to be in the rush that Young was to get out.
 
Long range shooting is the rarest of all skills . Booker is a great shooter.
and therefore he will be highly prized. He is also very young having just turned 18. He will get bigger and stronger with another year and will almost certainly be a lottery pick in 2016.Very unlikely that he leaves early. His youth means he will have three contracts before he is 30. He will make a lot of money.
 
I don't think Booker will consider the draft if we don't bring home #9, even if he is highly regarded. But I sure hope he stays even if we do.
 
Anyone that says Booker is an average athlete needs to go look at the combine numbers from earlier this year. That's a very naive statement. Also, defense is much more difficult to observe through numbers than offense. Some of the greatest defenders in the game don't show freaky defensive numbers. I do believe that Booker could improve his stock into the late lottery if he were to come back, and I do think he does come back one more year. But in no way should anyone underestimate his offensive of defensive abilities.
 
Originally posted by gossie21:

Originally posted by caneintally:

Originally posted by KMKAT:
Originally posted by UKAlum07:
Call me optimistic but I don't think Booker goes. I just don't see it.

His family doesn't need the money, he genuinely enjoys college and loves playing next to his best bud Ulis (who will be back), and he's still so young. He could easily play himself into a top 10 pick next year. Easily.
See James Young. This dude is gone if he keeps up his current pace.
huh ? those are 2 totally different dudes. Whatever Booker and ULis do they will do it together and both will be here 2 seasons . Not more , not less .
He is actually very similar to James Young. Same height and vertical although James Young has a larger wingspan. Style of play Booker is more similar to Klay Thompson than James Young.
No he is nothing like Young . Young was a volume shooter who shot an average % and was an elite athlete but horrible at everything else. Booker makes alot of shots while shooting few . He is a decent athlete but is a good defender , a good passer , a decent driver basically the anti Young. Literally polar opposites of one another . Also Young's family didn't have a former NBA player in it so Booker is in no need of money super fast. So total different siutations . Booker might go pro but then Ulis will to IMO.
 
Originally posted by BigBlueEmpire:
Anyone that says Booker is an average athlete needs to go look at the combine numbers from earlier this year. That's a very naive statement. Also, defense is much more difficult to observe through numbers than offense. Some of the greatest defenders in the game don't show freaky defensive numbers. I do believe that Booker could improve his stock into the late lottery if he were to come back, and I do think he does come back one more year. But in no way should anyone underestimate his offensive of defensive abilities.
Combine numbers can be deceiving. Doug McDermott recorded the same max vertical as Blake Griffin.[/B]

I don't know anyone who'd label Booker a great athlete. He really has no standout athletic attributes.

Defensive wise he's slipped, purely from the eye test, allowing ton of penetration. But the numbers also back up what i'm seeing. He tries hard on D, so his effort is not questioned.

Another year would give him time to expand his game, so of course his stock can rise with another year. If he maintains hot shooting and stays within the early 20s on mocks, i think he's gone. Pretty surprising, didn't think he'd be in this position coming into the year.
 
Originally posted by caneintally:

Originally posted by gossie21:

Originally posted by caneintally:

Originally posted by KMKAT:
Originally posted by UKAlum07:
Call me optimistic but I don't think Booker goes. I just don't see it.

His family doesn't need the money, he genuinely enjoys college and loves playing next to his best bud Ulis (who will be back), and he's still so young. He could easily play himself into a top 10 pick next year. Easily.
See James Young. This dude is gone if he keeps up his current pace.
huh ? those are 2 totally different dudes. Whatever Booker and ULis do they will do it together and both will be here 2 seasons . Not more , not less .
He is actually very similar to James Young. Same height and vertical although James Young has a larger wingspan. Style of play Booker is more similar to Klay Thompson than James Young.
No he is nothing like Young . Young was a volume shooter who shot an average % and was an elite athlete but horrible at everything else. Booker makes alot of shots while shooting few . He is a decent athlete but is a good defender , a good passer , a decent driver basically the anti Young. Literally polar opposites of one another . Also Young's family didn't have a former NBA player in it so Booker is in no need of money super fast. So total different siutations . Booker might go pro but then Ulis will to IMO.
Ulis won't be in position to leave after this season. He won't bounce, even if his best friend does.

I honestly believe next seasons the year Ulis breaks out and get some 1st round considerations. He'll be running the show + have a bigger role.
 
Question:

Who had you rather have come back next year, twins or Ulis and Booker?
 
Originally posted by KyFaninNC:
Question:

Who had you rather have come back next year, twins or Ulis and Booker?
Lets not get into this, as it will inevitably develop into Andrew vs. Tyler.
 
Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:

Andrew has never been a good finisher though. Last season he hit a really low 44% shot at the rim. I don't have this years number, but its probably around the same low number.


I really believe Aaron is much better than his numbers suggest. He's defending at a high level this season. His shot selection does get shaky at times, but he just needs to connect on the open shots with more consistency + attack more.
I think it's lower this year. Not sure how you improve it. A lot of his gripes will go away if he learns to finish those. His assist his MUCH higher this year than last year, and his steals are noticeably higher too. I guess i would also add him making 40% from the three. He'll be drafted, but seems like big if right now.

Aaron just wow...he massacres his % by simply jacking up completely random shit. LOL. He looked great against AM, not over shooting, but i still think he shot few that was not necessary, even if he made it.
 
The twins have a chance to become bogans like players if they muscle up and hit some 3s.
 
the twins are gone no two ways about that and i think they will have another stellar end of the year and Andrew will somewhere between 20-40 and Aaron will somewhere between 30-50 . Andrew is a PG those at 6'6 are much more valuable despite the fact Aaron is a better player. I think both will play in the league for a long time though.
 
Originally posted by WildMoon:

I think it's lower this year. Not sure how you improve it. A lot of his gripes will go away if he learns to finish those. His assist his MUCH higher this year than last year, and his steals are noticeably higher too. I guess i would also add him making 40% from the three. He'll be drafted, but seems like big if right now.

Aaron just wow...he massacres his % by simply jacking up completely random shit. LOL. He looked great against AM, not over shooting, but i still think he shot few that was not necessary, even if he made it.
Despite tepid shooting, Aaron maintains a quality offensive rating by having an extremely low turnover rate.

If only we all could erase the A&M game, which was a total travesty for Aaron, because he has been great in conference play otherwise. His 16 (!!!!) missed shots were absurd. Hopefully it serves as a learning experience which lends to a more frugal shooting approach.
 
Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:

Originally posted by KyFaninNC:
Question:

Who had you rather have come back next year, twins or Ulis and Booker?
Lets not get into this, as it will inevitably develop into Andrew vs. Tyler.
Not intended for that. My question is simple, who would add more to our team next year, twins, or Ulis and Booker. This year is what it is.
 
Originally posted by KyFaninNC:

Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:

Originally posted by KyFaninNC:
Question:

Who had you rather have come back next year, twins or Ulis and Booker?
Lets not get into this, as it will inevitably develop into Andrew vs. Tyler.
Not intended for that. My question is simple, who would add more to our team next year, twins, or Ulis and Booker. This year is what it is.
Ulis+ Booker + Briscoe = best backcourt in CBB.
 
Ugh, I don't like seeing that. It just puts in "black and white" what some have been thinking recently. That Ulis and Booker are our best guards. I really think, and yes hope that both return, but the fact is our freshmen are a big part of why this team is so good. All 4 will be tempted, especially if the season plays out like we hope. One way or the other as had been the case in Cal's tenure at UK, we need another great recruiting class. With the way we are churning out NBA draft picks and player's one bad recruiting year for Cal and it could get ugly.
 
Originally posted by BoulderCat:
Ugh, I don't like seeing that. It just puts in "black and white" what some have been thinking recently. That Ulis and Booker are our best guards. I really think, and yes hope that both return, but the fact is our freshmen are a big part of why this team is so good. All 4 will be tempted, especially if the season plays out like we hope. One way or the other as had been the case in Cal's tenure at UK, we need another great recruiting class. With the way we are churning out NBA draft picks and player's one bad recruiting year for Cal and it could get ugly.
I think Ulis and Booker return and maybe a surprise or two,but your point about a one year miss in recruiring is well taken.That has always been the one problem i have had with Cal's 'system'.At some point in time it will happen,you could make the case that it already did (the year Noel came in)If we get Newman and one more big we can kick the can one more year down the road
This post was edited on 1/15 8:48 PM by docholiday51
 
Personally I don't see Lee as being at top 100 player right now. I see him coming back as well as Ulis and Booker. It will give us a solid foundation (along with Hawkins and Willis).
 
I see Dakari was at number 29, what do they see that makes them think he can make it right now, I love Dakari but he needs a lot of work down low, he goes up as weak as any 7 footer I have ever seen, if he can get mean and go up strong every time, then I see that projection, but not until.
 
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