Does Rutgers serve as a case study?

[CatFanInIlliniLand]

For coaches and future recruits?

Sure, you can load up on two young five star recruits. You may also be 14-15 in early March and most likely missing the tournament.

 

[mcwildcats04]

For coaches and future recruits?

Sure, you can load up on two young five star recruits. You may also be 14-15 in early March and most likely missing the tournament.

Pretty crazy to see how horrible their season has gone. It does take a complete team no matter how talented a few guys may be!

 

[shaudyshaud]

Unfortunately some of these recruits don’t care . As long as the NIL is good and their draft stock is still good they are fine . It does suck for College basketball . I wanted to see Bailey and Harper on the big stage .

 

[bbncal02]

For coaches and future recruits?

Sure, you can load up on two young five star recruits. You may also be 14-15 in early March and most likely missing the tournament.

Woof. I mean the B1G is not hard, but it's not ACC easy either.

 

[TM2013]

Coach Cal has been a walking case study on this the last several years. Freshman are not the answer to winning.

 

[Titpwhami2014]

I don’t know, the rest of their roster is pretty weak. Like mid-major weak.

 

[G-PIP]

For coaches and future recruits?

Sure, you can load up on two young five star recruits. You may also be 14-15 in early March and most likely missing the tournament.

And what about what happened to the returning guys? I think one guy last year averaged more than 17 ppg and another more that 12 ppg. last season and not even double figures this season. And they've got a bruiser inside that can play a little. But none of them can get the ball. I think Bailey would try to kick it in rather than pass (and Lord knows he doesn't want Harper to avg. more points per game). What a disaster, and everybody is going to blame it on the supporting cast without even watching or understanding what they're watching.

 

[runt#69]

For coaches and future recruits?

Sure, you can load up on two young five star recruits. You may also be 14-15 in early March and most likely missing the tournament.

truly a cautionary (and true) tale.

It's one thing I'm watching to see how (and maybe it goes a long way towards answering why) teams / coaches like Kansas, Arkansas (Cal and Self) how they can adapt to the new era. The slippage I'm seeing with Kansas, the very likely possibility Cal aint even making the tournament with his roster, tells me maybe the changed game is taking some older coaches to the woodshed with their philosophies. It is looking like it is so.

If CCC had a team purely made of freshmen 5 stars, he would absolutely be behind the eight ball from an experience standpoint, and relying on inexperienced freshman talent (and talent alone) in this era is a recipe for failure in today's game.

 

[know1]

For coaches and future recruits?

Sure, you can load up on two young five star recruits. You may also be 14-15 in early March and most likely missing the tournament.

Do you know we are playing right now?

 

[Fox2monk]

For coaches and future recruits?

Sure, you can load up on two young five star recruits. You may also be 14-15 in early March and most likely missing the tournament.

They had a little injury issues between them, but yes I think a school that doesn’t have massive resources is better served spreading money around rather than buy the best 2 players and putting a mid major team around them.

 

[Fox2monk]

Unfortunately some of these recruits don’t care . As long as the NIL is good and their draft stock is still good they are fine . It does suck for College basketball . I wanted to see Bailey and Harper on the big stage .

Bailey and Harper are something else. I watched Bailey cook Indiana for almost 40 and they didn’t have a chance to win.

 

[CatFanInIlliniLand]

Do you know we are playing right now?

It’s was half time when I posted this. In fact, the studio was playing Rutgers highlights.

Nice looking out though.

 

[Catzman]

Unfortunately some of these recruits don’t care . As long as the NIL is good and their draft stock is still good they are fine . It does suck for College basketball . I wanted to see Bailey and Harper on the big stage .

Yes and no. Most recruits, while money is important, are still competitors at heart and want to win. The 2 Rutgers stars either thought they'd win more, or are the exceptions, not the rules. Most are going to want to go to Duke, UK, Kansas, etc AND get paid over getting more and going to be a loser at a lower tier school who can't make the NCAAT.

 

[pauled]

Those two players chose money over winning!

 

[shaudyshaud]

Yes and no. Most recruits, while money is important, are still competitors at heart and want to win. The 2 Rutgers stars either thought they'd win more, or are the exceptions, not the rules. Most are going to want to go to Duke, UK, Kansas, etc AND get paid over getting more and going to be a loser at a lower tier school who can't make the NCAAT.

Over the years we have seen number 1 picks go to weird schools that weren’t all that good for whatever reason . Top 10 picks with random schools .

Anthony Edwards - UGA
Markelle Fultz - Washington
Cade Cunningham - Okla St(I know his brother)
AJ Dybansta - BYU next year .
Isaiah Collier (USC)
Cody Williams( Colorado)

Just a few . I’m just saying a lot of the top guys are going to random schools for whatever reason .

Edit: Maybe I shouldn’t say don’t care . More of winning isn’t at the top of their list.

 

[shaudyshaud]

Bailey and Harper are something else. I watched Bailey cook Indiana for almost 40 and they didn’t have a chance to win.

Bailey is fun to watch at times . He definitely has to work on his playmaking though . He has some serious tunnel vision lol.

Harper kind of remind me of Cade Cunningham .

 

[jwphelps]

For coaches and future recruits?

Sure, you can load up on two young five star recruits. You may also be 14-15 in early March and most likely missing the tournament.

I don't think you can win with just some star freshmen, Cal started proving that over the past 5 years.

 

[catsfan325]

Their record has more to do with the supporting cast than anything imo. Have watched a handful of their games and Rutgers plays multiple guys big minutes who just are not very good

 

[TTTblue24]

Gotta be able to mix some stud recruits and portal/returning upper classmen but with that said you can’t spend all your NIL on just a few players cause then the rest of the roster takes a hit.

 

[EliteBlue]

For coaches and future recruits?

Sure, you can load up on two young five star recruits. You may also be 14-15 in early March and most likely missing the tournament.

Definitely a data point supporting the concept of not spending your whole NIL budget on 2 freshmen when you could get 5 quality portal guys for the price

 

[SkyPrince1]

Those two players chose money over winning!

They also chose to stay close to home as did Anthony Edwards.
Some of the sure fire OAD players are going to go this route.

 

[Catzman]

Over the years we have seen number 1 picks go to weird schools that weren’t all that good for whatever reason . Top 10 picks with random schools .

Anthony Edwards - UGA
Markelle Fultz - Washington
Cade Cunningham - Okla St(I know his brother)
AJ Dybansta - BYU next year .
Isaiah Collier (USC)
Cody Williams( Colorado)

Just a few . I’m just saying a lot of the top guys are going to random schools for whatever reason .

Edit: Maybe I shouldn’t say don’t care . More of winning isn’t at the top of their list.

BYU is a top 25 team who just beat top 10 Iowa State

Yes there are some kids who go to lesser schools for money, but the majority still choose top schools. Look at UK and Dukes recruiting the last 10 years. Of the top 10 recruits, id say 70% of them go to bluebloods or really good teams. So yes some kids will choose money over everything but the majority still want money AND to win.