Do you think the world could take over the U.S.?
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Let's assume we and the rest of the world all decide nukes are off the table. That's the only way this scenario can even be discussed. The first question is how they get the invasion forces here. The rest of the world combined has fewer aircraft carriers than the United States. The rest of the world's air force vs ours may favor the world, but they have to get their planes in range first. Our naval superiority could be the deciding factor.
You could have Canada and Russia move to take Alaska and move forces in that way. Being very close to land, you could get enough aircraft in the area to keep our navy away. IMO the question isn't if an invasion succeeds (the rest of the world would simply overwhelm us with numerical superiority) but whether we can repel the bulk of the invasion entirely.
Another interesting angle is what happens with all our forces deployed overseas. How much advance notice is there that war is breaking out? Do we withdraw our men to protect this country, or try to launch attacks of our own to keep others occupied. Our forces in Germany might be able to defeat their entire army - we have 50,000 men there to their 60,000. But is this worthwhile? What good does holding this do us? Our forces in the middle east would be important - we wouldn't be able to hold the territory but we could destroy the oil wells and deny our enemies a major source of fuel. Meanwhile, we'd have to ration oil and gasoline at home. We produce a good amount now, but not enough to run the military during total war while having enough for civilian use. If our navy is out on deployment as war breaks out, we'd want to launch attacks on any nearby naval forces or airbases. The entire naval/air war is really interesting, and most of the story.
You could have Canada and Russia move to take Alaska and move forces in that way. Being very close to land, you could get enough aircraft in the area to keep our navy away. IMO the question isn't if an invasion succeeds (the rest of the world would simply overwhelm us with numerical superiority) but whether we can repel the bulk of the invasion entirely.
Another interesting angle is what happens with all our forces deployed overseas. How much advance notice is there that war is breaking out? Do we withdraw our men to protect this country, or try to launch attacks of our own to keep others occupied. Our forces in Germany might be able to defeat their entire army - we have 50,000 men there to their 60,000. But is this worthwhile? What good does holding this do us? Our forces in the middle east would be important - we wouldn't be able to hold the territory but we could destroy the oil wells and deny our enemies a major source of fuel. Meanwhile, we'd have to ration oil and gasoline at home. We produce a good amount now, but not enough to run the military during total war while having enough for civilian use. If our navy is out on deployment as war breaks out, we'd want to launch attacks on any nearby naval forces or airbases. The entire naval/air war is really interesting, and most of the story.
Am I the only one who thinks we are shooting anything out of the sky that comes our way. Bomb or plane carrying bomb.
NOW WE'RE TALKING
Regarding Germany: I think it would be crucial to keep the Central European industrial sectors out of the war. We would have enough trouble out-producing China and India. If Europe is allowed to churn out armaments, it's game over for Yankee Doodle.
You bring up a great point about oil. I think our very first move would have to be the annexation of Canada and then conquering everything down to the Brazilian border. Venezuela, Canada, and Alaska could keep us afloat from the crude oil side of things.
Blow up every oil well in the Middle East and try to wreak so much havoc there that they can't get a steady supply going.
Jamo, you don't think nuclear damage would cause much damage to the rest of the world. I believe we got military grade equipment only seen in movies. No way any other country could mount an offensive after a barrage of nuclear bombs. Then cross the ocean to a country where guns run rampant. No way is Yankee Doodle ever in trouble.
If another country invaded America, Im concerned that alot of our citizens would want to see what the enemy could promise them for free before they took up arms and the other half would be lawyering up against America for not protecting them. I love this country but have little faith in people these days.
Alright, just because the discussion is interesting, where do we hit first? Do we play defense, guard the coasts and shoot everything out of the sky, or are we firing ICBM's loaded with nuclear warheads and if so, where are they aimed?
Europe just for the convenience of numbers/infrastructure/manufacturing? China? Russia?
Conversely, how would you attack us if you were the other countries?
Europe just for the convenience of numbers/infrastructure/manufacturing? China? Russia?
Conversely, how would you attack us if you were the other countries?
Everyone knows that North America has 3 borders to protect, however, you do get an extra 5 men a turn. Europe has 5 borders, Africa has 3, but easier countries to defend. Most like Australia with one border.
Yup. Just plug up Alaska, Greenland, and Mexico and you've got a stronghold of massive resources. By the time someone builds up enough of a Navy to try and make an amphibious assault, you're well on your way to conquer half of the globe.
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Another good point is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
Anyone that invades the US is going to face a guerilla warfare like the world has never seen.
The smartest thing that other countries could do is sit back and watch us collapse economically from within.......since, it's basically happening as we speak. Then sit back and dictate all our actions through politics and economic sanctions. No need to invade, our own debt and stupidity will bind our hands and make us slaves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
Anyone that invades the US is going to face a guerilla warfare like the world has never seen.
The smartest thing that other countries could do is sit back and watch us collapse economically from within.......since, it's basically happening as we speak. Then sit back and dictate all our actions through politics and economic sanctions. No need to invade, our own debt and stupidity will bind our hands and make us slaves.
Canada won't be a problem. As I mentioned, there is only 1 major route to get ground artillery into the U.S from the North. The U.S would have that plugged like tampon. No one is getting through the North. No one.
I think I read somewhere that the Russian leaders said the US cannot be taken by force, but could be from inside.
Destroy American values and slowly convert it to socialism then communist control will follow..
Oh well, I might not have read it, but saw it on TV somewhere, don't know which.
Destroy American values and slowly convert it to socialism then communist control will follow..
Oh well, I might not have read it, but saw it on TV somewhere, don't know which.
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