Did some model tweaking tonight…

[Aike]

Not going to go into great detail. Basically ran some new models with different time periods for…reasons.

Short story…Kentucky looks a little better. Up to 11th from 14.

Auburn, Duke, Florida still 1,2,3 but gap closed between Auburn and Duke.

Purdue sneaked into the “unlikely but still potential champion” tier.

More later.

 

[BlueSince92]

To me Jaxon Robinson’s injury is gonna go down as third all time in my book of WELL SHI——!!!! after Derek Anderson’s and Keith Bogans’.

 

[yoshukai]

To me Jaxon Robinson’s injury is gonna go down as third all time in my book of WELL SHI——!!!! after Derek Anderson’s and Keith Bogans’.

Sam Bowies ?

 

[JimboBBN]

Sam Bowies ?

Throw Poythress in there as well. 40-0 with a title if he stays healthy and guards Sam Dekker.

 

[yoshukai]

Throw Poythress in there as well. 40-0 with a title if he stays healthy and guards Sam Dekker.

Rodney Dent ?

 

[Bluesnky]

You and me both brother

 

[UKWildcats1987]

To me Jaxon Robinson’s injury is gonna go down as third all time in my book of WELL SHI——!!!! after Derek Anderson’s and Keith Bogans’.

Seriously?

Poy in 2015 and wcs in 2014 are clear titles if they don't get hurt. Bowie is another one someone mentioned and what arouse Casey back n the day?

 

[true blue1]

Derrick Anderson is another one.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

My model has Dook with the for sure choke job in route.

 

[BC_Wader]

Dale Brown's injury was a massive blow against Michigan in the Final 4. He was having a great game up until he dove into the scorers table and jacked his shoulder up.

 

[hotelblue]

Dale Brown's injury was a massive blow against Michigan in the Final 4. He was having a great game up until he dove into the scorers table and jacked his shoulder up.

i never rewatched that game until recently. i couldn’t. delk drew a charge against jalen rose at the end. it should have been our ball with 5 seconds left, tied, in regulation, with mash still in the game. that was some all-time crap. can’t believe i didn’t remember it.

 

[BlueSince92]

🤣 at the idea either 14 or 15 were titles if Poy and WCS were both healthy. Results were much more likely the same Cal buttpucker sob stories with slightly different footnotes. Especially 15, which was wonderful smoke and mirrors but that team didn't have a natural three at all. Poy even when healthy was playing out of position. I wouldn't guarantee a loss with him healthy, would have liked to have seen it. But guaranteeing a victory with him is more of a stretch than almost anything else mentioned. Put that in your top slot if you feel you must but leave me out of it.

DA healthy was a title by a mile and Bogans was the next best thing. I wouldn't put a healthy Jax on this team that high, but higher than any of the others mentioned except Bowie, because he was before my time and I can't comment. Kentucky was not coming close to winning a title in 94 with or without Rodney Dent. Dent was great in spurts and crafty with his use of his stringy body, just like Andrew Carr. He was by no means a team-maker and that team had issues. Dale Brown's injury in 93 is more believable as a critical difference. By no means were we guaranteed a victory with him finishing that game. The whole reason he got injured was we were entirely overwhelmed once Mashburn fouled out. But all the same we were close and Brown, while streaky, was very hot when he was on. We -could- have won that game with Brown staying in and the path to the title was very clear after Michigan.

 

[michaeluk26]

🤣 at the idea either 14 or 15 were titles if Poy and WCS were both healthy. Results were much more likely the same Cal buttpucker sob stories with slightly different footnotes. Especially 15, which was wonderful smoke and mirrors but that team didn't have a natural three at all. Poy even when healthy was playing out of position. I wouldn't guarantee a loss with him healthy, would have liked to have seen it. But guaranteeing a victory with him is more of a stretch than almost anything else mentioned. Put that in your top slot if you feel you must but leave me out of it.

DA healthy was a title by a mile and Bogans was the next best thing. I wouldn't put a healthy Jax on this team that high, but higher than any of the others mentioned except Bowie, because he was before my time and I can't comment. Kentucky was not coming close to winning a title in 94 with or without Rodney Dent. Dent was great in spurts and crafty with his use of his stringy body, just like Andrew Carr. He was by no means a team-maker and that team had issues. Dale Brown's injury in 93 is more believable as a critical difference. By no means were we guaranteed a victory with him finishing that game. The whole reason he got injured was we were entirely overwhelmed once Mashburn fouled out. But all the same we were close and Brown, while streaky, was very hot when he was on. We -could- have won that game with Brown staying in and the path to the title was very clear after Michigan.

I suggest you go back and watch the 2014 Wisconsin game and how Poythress shut Dekkar down when he was in and dunked all over him and Frank K. He caught a lob and layed it up. He had another basket too. This was the last 5 minutes. In 2015 if Poythress were available Booker wouldn't have gotten 4 and 1's on him.

I don't get the WCS argument because of he didn't go down we lose to Louisville in the Sweet 16. Dakari was huge in that game. If somehow WCS only missed Louisville then yeah his shot blocking would've immensely helped against UConn.

Why was Kentucky not coming close without Dent. We beat 3 of the 4 final four teams that year in Arizona in Maui, eventually champion Arkansas in the SEC semis, and Florida twice in a week, on senior night and the SEC CHAMPIONSHIP. I was at both. We absolutely could've won it all with Dent. We beat all them without him. He was damn good.

 

[Deli owl]

Who was the model?

 

[AzubuikeandFitch]

To me Jaxon Robinson’s injury is gonna go down as third all time in my book of WELL SHI——!!!! after Derek Anderson’s and Keith Bogans’.

Agreed. Luck has to turn our way soon. Maybe it starts this tournament 🤷‍♂️

 

[BlueSince92]

I suggest you go back and watch the 2014 Wisconsin game and how Poythress shut Dekkar down when he was in and dunked all over him and Frank K. He caught a lob and layed it up. He had another basket too. This was the last 5 minutes. In 2015 if Poythress were available Booker wouldn't have gotten 4 and 1's on him.

I don't get the WCS argument because of he didn't go down we lose to Louisville in the Sweet 16. Dakari was huge in that game. If somehow WCS only missed Louisville then yeah his shot blocking would've immensely helped against UConn.

Why was Kentucky not coming close without Dent. We beat 3 of the 4 final four teams that year in Arizona in Maui, eventually champion Arkansas in the SEC semis, and Florida twice in a week, on senior night and the SEC CHAMPIONSHIP. I was at both. We absolutely could've won it all with Dent. We beat all them without him. He was damn good.

Of course because in 14 Poy was playing as a 4. But in the year in question he was playing out of position and teams at the level of Elite Eight and above would definitely abuse us for that. Same old stupid Cal stuff. Any of those guys could have helped but I don’t think any is a bigger difference than losing our second leading scorer (and more importantly for our system, our single biggest combined inside-outside scoring threat) off a team that was leading the nation in top-15 wins before the injuries got out of control.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

i never rewatched that game until recently. i couldn’t. delk drew a charge against jalen rose at the end. it should have been our ball with 5 seconds left, tied, in regulation, with mash still in the game. that was some all-time crap. can’t believe i didn’t remember it.

Oh yes! I remember that very well! My Dad and I both jumped up and were excited as hell! Welp, no call! Was absolute BULLSHIT! Will ever forget it!

 

[yoshukai]

Seriously?

Poy in 2015 and wcs in 2014 are clear titles if they don't get hurt. Bowie is another one someone mentioned and what arouse Casey back n the day?

Casey! Completely slipped my mind . Probably another title.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

🤣 at the idea either 14 or 15 were titles if Poy and WCS were both healthy. Results were much more likely the same Cal buttpucker sob stories with slightly different footnotes. Especially 15, which was wonderful smoke and mirrors but that team didn't have a natural three at all. Poy even when healthy was playing out of position. I wouldn't guarantee a loss with him healthy, would have liked to have seen it. But guaranteeing a victory with him is more of a stretch than almost anything else mentioned. Put that in your top slot if you feel you must but leave me out of it.

DA healthy was a title by a mile and Bogans was the next best thing. I wouldn't put a healthy Jax on this team that high, but higher than any of the others mentioned except Bowie, because he was before my time and I can't comment. Kentucky was not coming close to winning a title in 94 with or without Rodney Dent. Dent was great in spurts and crafty with his use of his stringy body, just like Andrew Carr. He was by no means a team-maker and that team had issues. Dale Brown's injury in 93 is more believable as a critical difference. By no means were we guaranteed a victory with him finishing that game. The whole reason he got injured was we were entirely overwhelmed once Mashburn fouled out. But all the same we were close and Brown, while streaky, was very hot when he was on. We -could- have won that game with Brown staying in and the path to the title was very clear after Michigan.

Fair enough. The point with 2015 was they could platoon and wear down teams with poy but cal went away from it once he got hurt. I'll agree they should have went to 3 guards due to no true 3 and that rotation would have won the Wisconsin game IMO.