Cowboys hand Bill B. his worst loss ever
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The Pats, Bill B and Tom Brady, could never lose enough in my eyes.
Mac Jones is ass, too.
Mac Jones is ass, too.
Brady by himself was never annoying to me. It was Brady WITH Belichick and the extra ref help they always got which was ridiculously annoying. Like, they're already good....stop kissing their butt!
Belichick looks lost without Brady. I'm honestly surprised Belichick hasn't decided to hang it up.
I think Mac Jones is a truly bad QB, and Bill B can only do so much with him. I think Mac Jones on any other team would be horrifically bad, but Bill is such a great coach (imo) that he can mask a lot of the teams flaws. I mean, he game planned two years ago to basically have Mac Jones throw no passes against Buffalo, and run the ball ebcause their run D was suspect.. and it worked. Mac Jones beat a very good Buffalo team that day, by literally doing nothing, and that was basically all due to the coaching.
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Same here, hated how they seemed to get away with everything. Especially when they regularly beat my Steelers. Broke my heart many times as a kid growing up during their run in the 2000s and later their more recent success in the 2010s.
Looking at the Brady-Belichick argument, to me initially I thought it was Belichick who was more responsible for the success than Brady because of the system. But with TB having the success in Tampa, winning another Super Bowl and Bill B floundering in NE in the post-Brady era it definitely looks like the other way around. He has just made some really baffling decisions with his staff and personnel since Brady left. Also think he is getting closer and closer (maybe even past it) to that expiration date many longtime coaches face at the end of their careers. Belichick is just the latest to go through this stage just as Chuck Noll, Tom Landry, Bill Parcells, Tom Coughlin, and others did.
It's crazy to think that the Chiefs/mahomes are not only the new "it" team getting the calls that Pats/Brady got.. but maybe even more.
But if you look at that Bucs team.. all they needed was a QB. Brady basically bailed on the Pats to jump to the next best roster he could find, where as Bill B was kind of stuck holding the bag: a bad Pats team through YEARS of never having an impact 1st round draft pick.
I know I'm in the minority on this.. but I still think Bill B was the far better asset. Watching him coach, he's seemingly playing a different game. Brady was just great at not making any mistakes in a dink and dunk offense, leaning on HOF defenses, HOF kickers and an AFC east division that was downright putrid for 20 years. Brady gets injured in 2010 and that team barely misses a bear, still wins like 10 games. But you remove Bill B off these teams and they fall off big time.
But if you look at that Bucs team.. all they needed was a QB. Brady basically bailed on the Pats to jump to the next best roster he could find, where as Bill B was kind of stuck holding the bag: a bad Pats team through YEARS of never having an impact 1st round draft pick.
I know I'm in the minority on this.. but I still think Bill B was the far better asset. Watching him coach, he's seemingly playing a different game. Brady was just great at not making any mistakes in a dink and dunk offense, leaning on HOF defenses, HOF kickers and an AFC east division that was downright putrid for 20 years. Brady gets injured in 2010 and that team barely misses a bear, still wins like 10 games. But you remove Bill B off these teams and they fall off big time.
They played low energy.
They just rolled the Pats who had played Miami and the Eagles close
Poor Mac. Once a Wildcat, Always a Wildcat. We got your back buddy!
Agree with you on the Chiefs, they definitely seem to be the new favorite child of the league with them getting the favorable calls from refs. You make some good points about the Belichick side of it and I definitely agree with most of it. Brady benefited from all of that for sure. You could also flip the division argument on Belichick too though because it inflated his record somewhat. Now that the Bills, Dolphins, and (to a much lesser extent) the Jets are competitive, the Pats have fallen behind and don’t have the personnel to compete for that division and be in playoff contention. That issue falls on Belichick with him being their GM along being the HC. He’s improved their roster from what they had in 2019 in Brady’s last year but it’s not anything they can do with long-term. He’s been really hit or miss with their draft picks lately and the jury is still out on Mac Jones as their franchise QB, though it’s not looking good for them. Can definitely understand the other side of it too though.
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Billy needs to retire. He's 71 and probably never winning another title. Greatest coach n NFL history due to 6 titles though so nothing left to prove.
Random observation, but did the op not know how to spell Belichick? I just didn't know we were calling him Bill B. now.
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