Coach K vs Bill Self
- Thread starter KneeBurns
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We can celebrate their loss just fine without your neediness. Go away.
one has 3 titles the other one 3 toupees
One wins titles the other loses in the 2nd round almost every year.
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WHo are you talking about? Everyone on here knows Duke , like KU is a fraud. The title will come from the 3 complete teams left - ZOna , UNC and UK. You can't be a donut and win the title . UK learned that last year. Nova did already ,KU will in a few days.
False. Y'all talked up Dook like crazy. You said they were superior to Kansas. And that's really funny, no?
Yes the facts are you lose to bucknell , stanford , wsu , Bradley. You can't be that stupid. K has had his as well but he has won 2 titles. KU ain't even making final 4's .
No I didn't . I said USC would beat them today you f'in idiot. Read. Hell many on here did. UK fans know whats up with Duke.
Exactly. I can't believe I have to stand up for a jack ass like K but this isn't rational. 2 titles is better then 1. K deserves more credit then Cal , or izzo or self ect. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE F'IN GAME . NOT LOSE IN THE 1ST/2ND ROUND TO JOKES LIKE BRADLEY.
Why are you posting here so much?
Are you really that excited about beating Michigan State?
Are you really that excited about beating Michigan State?
So you're telling me, you'd rather have selfs resume since 2000 than K's? 3-1 man. Titles are what it's all about and you know it. I couldn't imagine living my life under a bridge...
Exactly. 2 great coaches. The other guy, and it sucks to say, is the best of the 3.
Dang these Chokehawk fans are just embarrassing. They need to act like they've actually been to the second weekend before, which I guess, when you think about it, they don't get there all that much.
Yeah, when you don't care how many questionable characters you recruit and play, you do rack up the wins. No doubt.
Haven't you heard? In Lawrence all wins are equal. That's why they're so proud of all those Little 12 titles.
Who are you talking about? We hate Duke. We thought they were overrated. None of us complained about Kansas' seeding. We did Duke though.
Also, why did you pick 2000 as the starting point? Random year that just happens to be after K's Duke team won five games and got to the national title game in 1999. Maybe judge from when Self has been at Kansas?
Self before this tourney
2004-Elite 8 3-1
2005-1st rd 0-1
2006-1st rd 0-1
2007-Elite 8 3-1
2008-Champions 6-0
2009-Sweet 16 2-1
2010-2nd rd 1-1
2011-Elite 8 3-1
2012-Runner-up 5-1
2013-Sweet 16 2-1
2014-2nd rd 1-1
2015-2nd rd 1-1
2016-Elite 8 3-1
29-12
One championship
One Runner-up
Two total Final Fours
Coach K
2004- Final Four 4-1,
2005- Sweet 16 2-1
2006-Sweet 16 2-1
2007-1st rd 0-1
2008-2nd rd 1-1
2009-Sweet 16 2-1
2010-Champions 6-0
2011-Sweet 16 2-1
2012-1st rd 0-1
2013-Elite 8 3-1
2014-1st rd 0-1
2015-Champions 6-0
2016-Sweet 16 2-1
30-11
Two national championships
Same number of Final Fours
Add this year's tourney and it's tied at 31-12, two Final Fours but one national title difference.
But if you want to tack on Self's Illinois and Tulsa stuff then you should count Coach K's stuff from the 1990s.
I'd say they're about at the same level except Cal has had more Final Fours and title game appearances.
Self's Final Fours
2008
2012
Cal's Final Fours
1996 (UMass)
2008 (Memphis) Not power five programs
2011
2012
2014
2015
Chmp game appearances
Self- 2008, 2012
Cal- 2008, 2012, 2014
If titles are the measuring stick then yeah, call them equal but it really discounts how much more success Cal has had at getting to the final weekend of the tourney.
I don't believe I have ever in my life talked up Duke , so your incorrect !! I think K is a complete hypocrite, and Self in just a liar and runs a dirty program so there ! Did your thugs make it back to the dorms with out trying to beat any young ladies ass or kick their cars this time ?
You picked a time frame when Coach K has as many titles as your program has in its entire history? That's probably the worst use of selective history that I've ever seen.
Dude, you've been on full tilt mode for the last 24 hours. I get that you're excited about playing in the Second Weekend, but do us all a favor and take a few plays off.
