Speculating that Cal allowed the loss last night to get the teams attention. Possible?
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No, he was still trying to win.
Only time I think he ever did that was 2012 SEC Tourney final against Vandy. He could do that because he had the 1-2 picks in the draft and had already clinched the top overall seed. This team is not elite and is playing for a 2-seed. Or should I say, was playing for a 2 seed.
Only time I think he ever did that was 2012 SEC Tourney final against Vandy. He could do that because he had the 1-2 picks in the draft and had already clinched the top overall seed. This team is not elite and is playing for a 2-seed. Or should I say, was playing for a 2 seed.
That makes zero sense to me as team was on a roll and moving up the rankings and seeding brackets. This loss hurts us in both.
Probably didn't allow it but looking at it now I'm sure he will look at it that way. I think they got a little cocky. Maybe it will help them.
I highly doubt it. No one loses on senior day on purpose.
After I calmed down, lol, I went then to my rationalization mode after hearing the Hagans stuff. Part of me thinks Cal just said eff it last night. Along the lines of if this kid thinks his way is better I will let him learn through hard knocks. Cal said Monday he thought a 2 seed was out of reach and maybe he was willing to let it implode last night once it started just to make a point. I doubt it but who knows.
I don't think he would ever purposely lose. However, he might do something like "fine lets do it your way and see how it turns out" and when we lose he tells them that type of play doesn't work.
Losers like Rick Neuheisel would think you need to lose to get your team's attention. Did he have his guitar out and sing that response?
The only thing losing teaches is how to lose. Now you do reach a point with certain teams where you say they don't listen, end this and move on--'13 NIT loss.
As for player issues--want to get attention of a player--yank his ass and let him watch his teammates.
The only thing losing teaches is how to lose. Now you do reach a point with certain teams where you say they don't listen, end this and move on--'13 NIT loss.
As for player issues--want to get attention of a player--yank his ass and let him watch his teammates.
This is exactly what I meant and what the discussion was. If that wasn’t understood I’m sorry. Cal let these kids go at it the way they wanted, and result was not good. As expected. Attention grabbing moment. I don’t think it’s “laughingly absurd.” Cal set the tone earlier by discussing seed possibilities. I believe cal has done this in the past. Anyway, just thought it was good discussion. Both hosts agreed we were still good enough to make some real noise, just had a bad night I’m a game that meant nothing in the SEC race. And thinking about about 2 seed versus 3 seed, thought was that it may not make much of a difference, as we weren’t getting a 1 seen anyway.
1996 and 2012 both lost in the SECT and went on to cut em down.
In no way am I comparing this team to probably the 2 greatest UK teams ever but sometimes A. Ls happen late and B. They can be beneficial.
Lets wait and see how this team responds not only at UF Sat. but in Music City a week later before we start all the gloom and doom bs.
In no way am I comparing this team to probably the 2 greatest UK teams ever but sometimes A. Ls happen late and B. They can be beneficial.
Lets wait and see how this team responds not only at UF Sat. but in Music City a week later before we start all the gloom and doom bs.
I wonder if that is why Hagans was let back in when he shouldn't have been. Maybe Cal thought if Hagans goes out and makes an ass out of himself that he will realize that he needs to change things as a player. I'm sure coaches do this sometimes to try to send a message to the player.
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I don’t know if he did, but if I won the SEC and knew my team wasn’t listening and a loss would get my team’s attention it wouldn’t bother me one bit as the coach. IF I thought it would teach them a lesson.
ESPNU this AM still think that Cal would be in the running for COY among major programs. He, Seton Hall's Coach, and Self. They said despite the bad loss last night, he still does a underappreciated job of getting young player to come together year after year.
Thing I don’t understand is that Maxey was killing UT off the dribble and all of a sudden that stopped.
I know what everyone is gonna say that’s cuz AH was on the bench when Max was going off and that all stopped when AH came back but the past couple games Cal has been playing AH off the ball and allowing Max to do this thing.
Cal just completely went away from Max in the second half. Also why did we stop shooting 3s in the second half? We were lights out from deep with Max and JJ in the first half.
The second half was a complete head scratcher. Coaching and players.
I know what everyone is gonna say that’s cuz AH was on the bench when Max was going off and that all stopped when AH came back but the past couple games Cal has been playing AH off the ball and allowing Max to do this thing.
Cal just completely went away from Max in the second half. Also why did we stop shooting 3s in the second half? We were lights out from deep with Max and JJ in the first half.
The second half was a complete head scratcher. Coaching and players.
All these things together, coupled with Cal's past of "letting the players figure it out", does make you wonder if he really cared to get the win, thinking that the team could use a bit of a reality check.
Cal never got into the refs, he was already in an odd mood (confirmed), and then he was chatting with Rick Barnes like the loss never happened. I'm not trying to make an excuse for the loss.. but we've kind of seen this before.
The 2nd half def looked like a team that didn’t have a plan of attack. I also noticed Cal not getting on the refs. Last night was weird for sure.
Im really anxious to see how we look on Sat. I think it was a wake up call and I think we get the W on sat.
I wouldn’t doubt that’s more accurate. He definitely wasn’t coaching hard midway through the 2nd half.
Cal would have been all over the refs as last night was top5 worst officiated game for Kentucky this year. He would have been T'd up and possibly tossed. He would not have been chummy with RIck Barnes or any opposing coach after such a bad loss..
I don't think he cared much and/or something else was weighing on him and it was a bad night. But we know one thing, part of this, in some way, is on Cal.. NOT just Hagans or the players.
