CBS SPORTS SAYS CALIPARI SHOULD BE THE COACH THAT HIRES WOMEN ASSISTANT FIRST

[ukhoops1]

ON COLLEGE BASKETBALL PODCAST
CALIPARI SHOULD BE THE COACH THAT HIRES WOMEN ASSISTANT
its 42 minute mark. she be setup to exceed and they said who couldnt recruit for Calipari and couple other things

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...the-best-jobs-in-college-hoops-summer-stories

 

[caneintally]

I could see it but kinda sad this is even a discussion . If you know b-ball you know b-ball .

 

[Orville Boggs]

I thought Rick did that years ago here.

 

[kyups01]

^^^same here

 

[TriangleUKCat]

I WILL SCREAM FROM THE MOUNTAINTOP ADJACENT TO YOU THAT BERNADETTE MATTOX COACHED HERE!!!!!!!! HOPE YOU HEARD THIS FINDING OF FACT!

 

[Smashcat]

I thought Rick did that years ago here.

He did.

 

[gossie21]

I could see it but kinda sad this is even a discussion . If you know b-ball you know b-ball .

It's not just about knowing Xs and Os. If that was the case then Tom Crean would be the best coach in the world because he knows the most about basketball.... just ask him.

You also have to be able to recruit elite players, and then motivate them to play to their fullest capacity. I am sure a female coach would be able to do those things. As of yet we haven't seen one, at least not one at a high profile position (Bernadette L-M notwithstanding).

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Bernadette Maddox.

 

[kyfan606]

Has anyone mentioned Bernadette Maddox

 

[Clive Gollings]

I own a print titled "Home Court Advantage" and it shows a woman on the bench next to Pitino.

 

[blubo]

where do we get 'em?

 

[JPScott]

Bernadette Maddox.

Funny because I just watched ESPNs 30 for 30 "Coach Bernie" a few days ago, talking about Rick Pitino hiring Bernadette Locke-Mattox. It does make one wonder why no one else seems to have done it since (although I know that Becky Hammon was hired as an assistant for the Spurs and she coached their summer league team to the championship.)

 

[wromanp7]

Funny because I just watched ESPNs 30 for 30 "Coach Bernie" a few days ago, talking about Rick Pitino hiring Bernadette Locke-Mattox. It does make one wonder why no one else seems to have done it since (although I know that Becky Hammon was hired as an assistant for the Spurs and she coached their summer league team to the championship.)

Of course...

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

I thought Rick did that years ago here.

I was their standing behind the camera crew at memorial when the announcement was made on Maddox hire.

 

[Xception]

I'm not interested in using UK bb as a platform for equality or advancing whatever movement needs advancing . Do that with an also ran or a football school , did anybody ask Duke , UNC or Uconn to blaze a trail ? Why ? There are avenues in life to further causes , the Wildcats is not one of those avenues . Especially when we have already done it once as previously pointed out , let another program step up this time .

 

[Uk1111]

No way I'm clicking that link, and I think it's BS that we get singled out as the ones to do it, ESP since WE ALLREADY HAVE!!!!! Did the Woman who wrote that seriously not know that?!?!?! If so She needs to learn about this new invention called a search engine, which could be kept her from looking like a fool, lol

 

[IdaCat]

Why hasn't Cal hired Caitlyn Jenner?

 

[Poetax]

Wow, I guess Maddox's hire wasn't anything special. I thought at the time they called it a milestone.

 

[stuway]

Bernadette Maddox pre dates Becky Hammon hire by 20 yrs. Has the world already forgot??

 

[Wall2Boogie]

I remember Tennessee a few years back had their female assistant coaches go recruit for them.

 

[tank2009]

I think he should hire a coach who can recruit like antigua, coach defense like thibedeau, coach offense like vreg popovich, and coach toughness like chuck dailey. Male or female is fine.

 

[JPScott]

ON COLLEGE BASKETBALL PODCAST
CALIPARI SHOULD BE THE COACH THAT HIRES WOMEN ASSISTANT
its 42 minute mark. she be setup to exceed and they said who couldnt recruit for Calipari and couple other things

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...the-best-jobs-in-college-hoops-summer-stories

Finally listened to this part of the podcast. It was around the 32:45 minute mark for me.

Anyway, they did acknowledge that UK had hired a female assistant 20 years ago under Pitino (although whoever was talking admitted he failed to mention it in his column) but that's what prompted the other person (I guess Gary Parrish) to state that Calipari should be the one to hire a female now.

BTW, this attitude seems to be eerily reminiscent of the attitude of many in the 1950's and 1960's who stated they were not opposed to integration of Southern teams, but they thought that Kentucky should take the lead on the issue (and used that as an excuse to drag their own feet).

 

[Mike-D]

I own a print titled "Home Court Advantage" and it shows a woman on the bench next to Pitino.

 

[KapitalCat]

 

[shutzhund]

Of what possible advantage would there be in having a female coach on a men's basketball team? Locker room problems, language, lack of respect from players, ridicule from members of other team's players and the inevitable sexual discrimination lawsuit.

Yeah, we need that for someone whose coaching value, for a men's team, is questionable at best. Speaking of Bernadette, who was a good player, she was also not much of a coach. Is the value of being politically correct outweigh having good results.

Check the recent news and see how that's working out.

 

[CUT-NETS]

Of what possible advantage would there be in having a female coach on a men's basketball team? Locker room problems, language, lack of respect from players, ridicule from members of other team's players and the inevitable sexual discrimination lawsuit.

Yeah, we need that for someone whose coaching value, for a men's team, is questionable at best. Speaking of Bernadette, who was a good player, she was also not much of a coach. Is the value of being politically correct outweigh having good results.

Check the recent news and see how that's working out.

We live in a time where we would rather be the first to do something than to do what is right or makes logical sense. Hiring a female coach is fine by me, but if there comes a time when UK does it I hope she is qualified over other candidates, not just getting the nod because she is female and we want to be the first.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Hire the best available regardless of gender. But if she's a great coach when there's an exceptional male coach, she should not be hired. It's that easy.

Eff your feelings. No free lunches. You want the job, then be the best option available.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

And still, I can't fathom how a female, half the size as these basketball players, who never played the sport at this level or with the men's rules, with body makeup and composition much different.. can be an effective coach. At least more effective than a guy who.. I don't know.. played the game for 30+ years at every level?

And yes, I feel the same way about women's field hockey. I can't imagine a guy makes for a better coach, when he didn't spend hours a day working at it while growing up. If I'm forming a field hockey team to win $1,000,000, you better believe I'm grabbing a female coach who excelled at this Harry Potter looking sport.

 

[uky8unc5]

Was Bernadette just a "member" of Rick's "staff"....or was she officially designated as an assistant coach? (She wasn't permitted to recruit.) For me, it counts either way, and Rick deserves the credit for being first.

http://www.kentucky.com/2013/07/03/2702888_bernadette-mattox-recalls-making.html?rh=1

 

[kybassfan]

So I'm confused. Is CBS saying that we should first hire a second female coach? Or maybe its hire a first female coach a second time? Or maybe its rehire our first female coach? Or maybe its have a female coach make her first hire?

OR maybe CBS don't know what the hell they are talking about. But I think we've known that since we hired our first female coach.

 

[ArmyWildcat81]

I like tacos

 

[kybassfan]

And still, I can't fathom how a female, half the size as these basketball players, who never played the sport at this level or with the men's rules, with body makeup and composition much different.. can be an effective coach. At least more effective than a guy who.. I don't know.. played the game for 30+ years at every level?

And yes, I feel the same way about women's field hockey. I can't imagine a guy makes for a better coach, when he didn't spend hours a day working at it while growing up. If I'm forming a field hockey team to win $1,000,000, you better believe I'm grabbing a female coach who excelled at this Harry Potter looking sport.

LineSki, not to pick on you but I'm not sure I agree with your comments on size or necessarily having played D1 basketball at a blue blood school. A lot of fine men's coaches today are far smaller than some of our male athletes and many have never played at the top of the heap in terms of D1 schools. So, size doesn't matter, but what really does make a good D1 basketball coach?

There are some hiring considerations that need to be discussed. In fact, I think the CBS call for hiring a female coach at Kentucky or any other blue blood institution was one of the more sexist comments I've heard regarding women's coaches. First, we've been there, done that, and I poked fun at the bonzo that failed to know enough about women's coaching to understand that. Also, a consideration is that women's basketball has come a LONG way. I suspect that there are a number of women coaches out there that understand guard play, defensive strategies, fundamental skills and other aspects quite well. I further suspect that there are women's coaches quite ready to gain experience coaching at entry level or maybe even mid major. Aside from a select few, for example, Theresa Phillips or Bernadette Maddox there have been damn few positions available for female coaches to work their way through the ranks of men's coaching, gain experience thus having a chance to excel at the top.

Instead this hack calls for Calipari to hire a woman into a position that they rarely have held. We know, from experience, that the quickest way to have a coach fail is advance them too quickly, male or female. We've had experience with that at Kentucky. We've seen it in our own players which have entered coaching.

So my question is why does this person want women to fail at coaching men's D1 basketball? If they really cared about this at all, they'd call for women to be employed in smaller programs have a chance to gain experience before entering the glare that is constant at a program like Kentucky. A woman which has gained experience in the D1 coaching ranks would be much better positioned to succeed. Put enough women in a high pressure situation and eventually one of them will succeed. Develop them properly through experience for that situation and many of them will succeed.