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Cbs sports on Knox commitment

I mean, he may well play the 3. But frankly I'd trust the opinions of most of our posters here over that of Matt Norlander when it comes to prognosticating how Call will resolve the question of our logjam at 3 combined with our (possibly worsening) lack of potential shooting guards. Norlander is only going off how Knox was used in high school and his size, not trying to make the Kentucky pieces fit together into a championship caliber team 1 through 5.
 
If we get Bamba.......... then Knox can be a 2 all he wants... why? because he can let guys get by him all day....... and Bamba will swat it out of there easy peazy. that or alter the shot into a much higher difficulty just by being tall and long.


If Cal stubbornly insists on playing that switch defense and Bamba gets stranded on a guard out past the three point line, how is gonna swat anything?
 
You guys need to forget about every position but PG in Cal's system. And I'm not even sure point matters that much when you've got point forwards like Vando, Knox, PJ etc. Cal will put the 5 best players on the floor for the situation.

Stick a foursome like Bamba, Knox, Vanderbilt, PJ in the game and just let Quade throw up lobs all day or put Shai or Baker in to shoot 3's because our frontcourt guys are all absurdly long and athletic and incredible rebounders.
 
This. Can't believe Cal has been here all these years and people still get so hung up on positions. Like he says, he will put the best players on the floor. Positionless basketball is obviously his thing.
I'm trying to think of a season where Cal didn't play true positions though. Seems every year we had a true pg, a true sg, a true 4 and a true 5. The only position that I recall being mismatched was the 3, but those are hard to find and Cal likes to have an extra guard or an extra 4 on the floor situationally. So I don't know if we all should be aware of Cal's lust for positionless basketball. We haven't seen it.
 
Pretty sick all things considered. I prefer playing upsize like this if the guys can move to having a guy like briscoe at the 3.

No offense to briscoe, but just from a size perspective. This suddenly became a fun year
 
I'm trying to think of a season where Cal didn't play true positions though. Seems every year we had a true pg, a true sg, a true 4 and a true 5. The only position that I recall being mismatched was the 3, but those are hard to find and Cal likes to have an extra guard or an extra 4 on the floor situationally. So I don't know if we all should be aware of Cal's lust for positionless basketball. We haven't seen it.

Cal has said on record many times that he doesn't want to.pigeon hole players and wants them to be position less. I mean, one of the first things Cal did at UK was sold 2 elite pgs on the idea of playing at the same time. Wall/Bledsoe.

Since then, every season has had players who played multiple spots. Briscoe, Pothyress, Willis, Booker, Harrions, Lyles, Lamb, Miller, Liggins just to name a few off the top of my head that routinely played multiple spots depending on lineups.

Cal wants the best guys on the floor and he's not going to let a really good player rot away on the bench just because there may be a better player in his "spot." Also helps in recruiting because for some players he sells them on they may be considered one thing in college and play something else in the pro game and ultimately it gives Cal the flexibility to using the best guys where he needs them which is a must with a yearly roster turnover like we have.
 
His Dad was just on the radio and he said one reason he came was because Cal was going to let him play the guard position so get use to seeing it because he's going to get the chance.
 
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If Cal stubbornly insists on playing that switch defense and Bamba gets stranded on a guard out past the three point line, how is gonna swat anything?

He probably can but Cal has shown he learns on the fly...trust in Cal dude...trust in Cal...in all things UK basketball.
 
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If Cal doesn't commit to a zone defense look forward to a lot of quick 2 fouls and a trip to the bench. UK is not suddenly going start getting a friendly whistle with these bigger guys trying to defend a smaller guard on the perimeter.
 
If the Cats add Bamba foul trouble will not be an issue. They will have two of everything and be very interchangeable.
 
If Cal stubbornly insists on playing that switch defense and Bamba gets stranded on a guard out past the three point line, how is gonna swat anything?
Plus if Knox is playing the 2 we better get ready to be pressed all over the court,we go from a 3 guard offense to a one guard offense.
 
If Cal doesn't commit to a zone defense look forward to a lot of quick 2 fouls and a trip to the bench. UK is not suddenly going start getting a friendly whistle with these bigger guys trying to defend a smaller guard on the perimeter.

Sure looks like we're going to have the depth to handle the 2 foul rule Cal has in the 1st half. Cal will not hesitate to go to his bench this year with what he's putting together.
 
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Sure looks like we're going to have the depth to handle the 2 foul rule Cal has in the 1st half. Cal will not hesitate to go to his bench this year with what he's putting together.

Spin needs no reasoning....just spit it out and see where it will stick.. (Not you KMKAT)
 
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If the Cats add Bamba foul trouble will not be an issue. They will have two of everything and be very interchangeable.

Never say that. Higgins would love another chance to put all uk's bigs on the bench.
 
If Diallo stays in the draft,, then Knox or Vanderbilt will play some 2.. I can see them switching on offense and defense maybe..
that is if we don't get Johnson. I think we will have one more SG on the roster regardless but if we didn't it wouldn't be a big deal . JV's offensive game is just as much combo guard as it is SF as his handle is pure. Knox is a 3 all the way but could play a little 2 as well.
 
And let's try to act like we are a UK fan...
Are we going to have to play "who's the biggest UK fan?" I will if we must.
But you only have to go back 3 seasons to a team with tremendous size and depth that almost lost to a team with 4 guards that spread the floor. Positionless basketball is a great selling point but is a double edged sword.
Mismatches using bigger guys are harder to take advantage of in college because of officiating that rewards flopping and the difficulty in surrounding them with enough professional level outside shooters.
Again do you think that suddenly UK will start to get the benefit of the doubt on 50/50 calls. Refs are a brotherhood and close ranks around their own.
Quicker little guys create contact on the perimeter will get the call while big guys will continue to get mugged on the inside with immunity.
 
Brando handles like a guard. He will relieve pressure. He also has length to throw over top of presses. Washington also handles the ball well. He was used to facilitate his high school's offense when they played better teams.
 
Are we going to have to play "who's the biggest UK fan?" I will if we must.
But you only have to go back 3 seasons to a team with tremendous size and depth that almost lost to a team with 4 guards that spread the floor. Positionless basketball is a great selling point but is a double edged sword.
Mismatches using bigger guys are harder to take advantage of in college because of officiating that rewards flopping and the difficulty in surrounding them with enough professional level outside shooters.
Again do you think that suddenly UK will start to get the benefit of the doubt on 50/50 calls. Refs are a brotherhood and close ranks around their own.
Quicker little guys create contact on the perimeter will get the call while big guys will continue to get mugged on the inside with immunity.

UK gets tremendous and unexpected news and this is where you take things. Talk is cheap. Real cheap. Actions speak louder...
 
I mean, he may well play the 3. But frankly I'd trust the opinions of most of our posters here over that of Matt Norlander when it comes to prognosticating how Call will resolve the question of our logjam at 3 combined with our (possibly worsening) lack of potential shooting guards.

You can trust whoever you want, of course. But the opinions of posters are completely and totally unrelated to player development decisions made by John Calipari. Knox's college decision was unexpected, and many people are just overreacting to it today. But having watched Knox a handful of times myself, including the ASGs, best guess is that he will be a combo forward who plays more on the perimeter. I think Vanderbilt is a little underrated, and Knox may be a little overrated, but both are elite talents who should thrive in Calipari's system. Vanderbilt is better in transition now, but Knox is longer and probably has a higher defensive ceiling.
 
The 2, 3 and 4 are pretty positionless in Cal's system but he definitely utilizes a 1 and 5. He made KAT into a post up player only which ironically helped his game. He also had Davis as a solid 5 when had diverse abilities.
 
You can trust whoever you want, of course. But the opinions of posters are completely and totally unrelated to player development decisions made by John Calipari.
In general they are no such thing. They are based upon predictions about player development decisions made by John Calipari. They are estimates of future player development decisions of John Calipari at Kentucky based on inferences from past player development decisions of John Calipari at Kentucky. Some of those predictions are much shrewder and better informed than others. But in general even ill-informed, wacky predictions based on more critical criteria are on better footing logically than similar quality predictions based on less critical criteria, which is what Matt Norlander provided. And that's all I said.
 
UK gets tremendous and unexpected news and this is where you take things. Talk is cheap. Real cheap. Actions speak louder...
What kind of actions are you talking about? Is your real name Joe Craft? If so I bow down.
My point is right now UK has 4 tweener 5-star forwards on the roster none of who have shown they can guard a SF in college much less a guard.
 
In general they are no such thing. They are based upon predictions about player development decisions made by John Calipari. They are estimates of future player development decisions of John Calipari at Kentucky based on inferences from past player development decisions of John Calipari at Kentucky. Some of those predictions are much shrewder and better informed than others. But in general even ill-informed, wacky predictions based on more critical criteria are on better footing logically than similar quality predictions based on less critical criteria, which is what Matt Norlander provided. And that's all I said.
Again, believe whatever you want. No harm, no foul. The opinions of posters on this board are just that, and only that. John Calipari calls the shots and fans react. Not the other way around. The uncertainties about next year's team are extensive. We don't know if Diallo will return. We don't know Vanderbilt's health status. We don't know what Bamba will decide. So nobody knows yet what next year's team will look like. But among those who have actually watched Knox play basketball, we do know that he is a very long athlete who has not yet demonstrated guard skills, aside from occasionally draining a jump shot.
 
What kind of actions are you talking about? Is your real name Joe Craft? If so I bow down.
My point is right now UK has 4 tweener 5-star forwards on the roster none of who have shown they can guard a SF in college much less a guard.

AND, please tell me how much better Cal should have done it. That is your point correct? if you are complaining you had a better plan...you could do better, If you do not, complaining turns into whining quick. jmusao Be Good
 
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