CBS Bracketology: Michigan State, Kansas, Oklahoma, Kentucky lead the way

[mktmaker]

At the top of the bracket is overall No. 1 seed Michigan State, followed by Oklahoma,Kansas and Kentucky. It was close between the Wildcats and fifth-overall Purdue, but the win over Duke makes up for the loss to UCLA. The Boilermakers have dominated their schedule, but haven't played a team the caliber of Duke yet.

Xavier also finds itself as a 2-seed after a very impressive start to its season. Undefeated Iowa State and the Blue Devils round out the second line of the bracket.

The other two undefeated teams in Division I are also in the bracket. South Carolina and Arkansas-Little Rock are both 8-seeds.


http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...n-state-oklahoma-kansas-kentucky-lead-the-way

 

[Dakota25]

Wow, I would take that region in a heart beat. The eight and nine seeds in our region are both low mid majors and I have never seen a low mid major rated that high. Just wow, too bad that will never happen.

 

[The_Answer1313]

This is gonna be the question

Would you rather be the lowest 1 and shipped out West or be a 2 seed and play at the YUM Center

 

[Tampa_cat54]

This is gonna be the question

Would you rather be the lowest 1 and shipped out West or be a 2 seed and play at the YUM Center

2 seed at the Yum, every time.

I'd rather be a 4/5 seed if it means we're at the Yum

 

[The_Answer1313]

I have a feeling people are going to be upset cause there's a strong possibility we don't play at YUM in the tournament.

The first two rounds go by geography.....so St. Louis is likely.........but the regional really depends on where your at on each line. Your the last 1 or 2 or 3....your not going there. If your the strongest, you are.

 

[ukfan79]

The Committee would never hesitate to put Duke or UNC as 2 seeds in Greensboro or Charlotte if there was a regional there.

But no way UK gets the Yum unless we are at least the #2 1 seed behind Michigan State or Kansas. Can't be behind both (top one will get Chicago) and can't be a 2 seed to get Louisville.

 

[The_Answer1313]

The Committee would never hesitate to put Duke or UNC as 2 seeds in Greensboro or Charlotte if there was a regional there.

But no way UK gets the Yum unless we are at least the #2 1 seed behind Michigan State or Kansas. Can't be behind both (top one will get Chicago) and can't be a 2 seed to get Louisville.

It's not really a matter of seeding tho.

Let's say for argument the 2 seeds in order are UK, Iowa St, Perdue and Xavier.

UK would go south (Louisville), Iowa St would go MIdwest (Chicago), Perdue would go either East or West and then Xavier would go East or West

Now flip it and have Iowa St, Perdue Xavier and UK
Iowa St (Midwest or South), Perdue (South or Midwest), Xavier (West) and UK (East)

That's why it really all depends where your at on the line and the other teams on that line. UK could be the strongest 4 seed and still end up at the YUM Center.

 

[ukfan79]

It's not really a matter of seeding tho.

Let's say for argument the 2 seeds in order are UK, Iowa St, Perdue and Xavier.

UK would go south (Louisville), Iowa St would go MIdwest (Chicago), Perdue would go either East or West and then Xavier would go East or West

Now flip it and have Iowa St, Perdue Xavier and UK
Iowa St (Midwest or South), Perdue (South or Midwest), Xavier (West) and UK (East)

That's why it really all depends where your at on the line and the other teams on that line. UK could be the strongest 4 seed and still end up at the YUM Center.

I'll believe it when I see it....that is UK getting Louisville as anything but a 1 seed.

Actually, the West is typically an easier road. So maybe we'd prefer there to having a home game in Louisville. I personally want Louisville because I already have my tickets though!

 

[ganner918]

I'll believe it when I see it....that is UK getting Louisville as anything but a 1 seed.

Actually, the West is typically an easier road. So maybe we'd prefer there to having a home game in Louisville. I personally want Louisville because I already have my tickets though!

They assign teams geographically. If we are the top 2 seed we will be placed in Louisville, that is not in question.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

They assign teams geographically. If we are the top 2 seed we will be placed in Louisville, that is not in question.

Nope, it's absolutely a question, Yum is a Sweet 16/Elite Eight site.

Sooo if we're the last #1 seed, and Michigan State (Chicago), Maryland (Philly) and Kansas (Louisville) are all #1 seeds ahead of us, guess where we are going?

Bingo- Anaheim.

The committee isn't going to send the #1 overall seed to Anaheim just so we can play in the Yum.

Basically, if KU, Oklahoma, or Michigan State are ranked as #1 seeds ahead of us, we're not going to be playing in Louisville. Kansas/Oklahoma would get Louisville and Sparty will get Chicago.

 

[The_Answer1313]

I'll believe it when I see it....that is UK getting Louisville as anything but a 1 seed.

Actually, the West is typically an easier road. So maybe we'd prefer there to having a home game in Louisville. I personally want Louisville because I already have my tickets though!

Yeah I'm kinda torn on that myself lol.

 

[The_Answer1313]

They assign teams geographically. If we are the top 2 seed we will be placed in Louisville, that is not in question.

This isn't exactly correct.

For the first two rounds.....they go down the seed list and assign first round sites by location.

But only 1 of each seed can go to a regional meaning if another team is higher than us on the same seed line and close to UL, it means they would go there ahead of us.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Nope, it's absolutely a question, Yum is a Sweet 16/Elite Eight site.

Sooo if we're the last #1 seed, and Michigan State (Chicago), Maryland (Philly) and Kansas (Louisville) are all #1 seeds ahead of us, guess where we are going?

Bingo- Anaheim.

The committee isn't going to send the #1 overall seed to Anaheim just so we can play in the Yum.

Basically, if KU, Oklahoma, or Michigan State are ranked as #1 seeds ahead of us, we're not going to be playing in Louisville. Kansas/Oklahoma would get Louisville and Sparty will get Chicago.

He said if we are the TOP TWO SEED. Not lowest 1 seed. You are correct though in all you said though if that is the case though.

 

[The_Answer1313]

So if it came down to it, I really believe we are better off being the strongest 2 instead of the weakest 1. Or the strongest 3 instead of the weakest 2.

I just think having that home court in the regionals would be HUGE.

 

[ganner918]

Nope, it's absolutely a question, Yum is a Sweet 16/Elite Eight site.

Sooo if we're the last #1 seed, and Michigan State (Chicago), Maryland (Philly) and Kansas (Louisville) are all #1 seeds ahead of us, guess where we are going?

Bingo- Anaheim.

The committee isn't going to send the #1 overall seed to Anaheim just so we can play in the Yum.

Basically, if KU, Oklahoma, or Michigan State are ranked as #1 seeds ahead of us, we're not going to be playing in Louisville. Kansas/Oklahoma would get Louisville and Sparty will get Chicago.

This isn't exactly correct.

For the first two rounds.....they go down the seed list and assign first round sites by location.

But only 1 of each seed can go to a regional meaning if another team is higher than us on the same seed line and close to UL, it means they would go there ahead of us.

You're both for some reason talking about us being the last 1 seed when I quite clearly stated I was talking about us being the top 2 seed. Clearly if we're the last 1 seed we won't play here because it will have already been filled when they come to us. I was responding to ukfan79 who said we wouldn't play in Louisville if we were a 2 seed.

 

[The_Answer1313]

You're both for some reason talking about us being the last 1 seed when I quite clearly stated I was talking about us being the top 2 seed. Clearly if we're the last 1 seed we won't play here because it will have already been filled when they come to us. I was responding to ukfan79 who said we wouldn't play in Louisville if we were a 2 seed.

Yeah that was my bad. I misread the post lol.

 

[Aike]

I think I'm going to pretend like it's December and we have no clue who the one seeds will be yet.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

You're both for some reason talking about us being the last 1 seed when I quite clearly stated I was talking about us being the top 2 seed. Clearly if we're the last 1 seed we won't play here because it will have already been filled when they come to us. I was responding to ukfan79 who said we wouldn't play in Louisville if we were a 2 seed.

But it's the same principal.

If we're the top 2 seed, we go where the fourth-best #1 seed is. If that happens to be in Anaheim or Chicago, that's where we go.

They won't screw over the #1 overall seed and make them play an essential road game in Louisville against (the best #2 seed) UK just for geographical reasons.

 

[The_Answer1313]

But it's the same principal.

If we're the top 2 seed, we go where the fourth-best #1 seed is. If that happens to be in Anaheim or Chicago, that's where we go.

They won't screw over the #1 overall seed and make them play an essential road game in Louisville against (the best #2 seed) UK just for geographical reasons.

No that's inaccurate. They no longer do it like that.

In theory, that would probably be better in that the regions would be more balanced that way but that's just not how they do it anymore.

As far as advantages go, they only look at that for the first two rounds..........so like say the first round games were in Louisville and UK got a an 8/9 seed. Most likely they wouldn't put UK in that region.

Just look at last season
The order of the top 8 were UK, Villanova, Duke, Wisconsin, Virginia, Arizona, Gonzaga, Kansas

So UK was overall number 1 and went Midwest (Chicago) - closest region
Villanova went East - closest region
Duke went South - next closest region
Wisconsin - West

Now look at the fifth team.........UVA......they are the strongest two.......but they didn't go West. Instead they went East - their closest region. Next up Arizona......who stayed West. Then Gonzaga .....which is 1695 miles from Houston and 1791 from Cleveland. So they went South. That left KU for the Midwest Bracket.

Once they go through the 4 seeds now they do look at the overall values in each region. They will add up the overall seed values in each region and it has to be within a certain range (this is in the rules tho I never seen them actually enforce this)

But it's really all about geography now. ADs would rather their teams play closer to home at the risk of being placed in a tougher region.

 

[ganner918]

But it's the same principal.

If we're the top 2 seed, we go where the fourth-best #1 seed is. If that happens to be in Anaheim or Chicago, that's where we go.

They won't screw over the #1 overall seed and make them play an essential road game in Louisville against (the best #2 seed) UK just for geographical reasons.

Were you not present on this board last March when everyone was freaking out that Wisconsin would probably be in our region if they were the top 2 seed because of the geographic placement they've been doing for a few years now? The s-curve no longer is used.

 

[CharlieT71059]

they will move UK into some other power teams back yard, remember Dwane Wade?

 

[The_Answer1313]

Were you not present on this board last March when everyone was freaking out that Wisconsin would probably be in our region if they were the top 2 seed because of the geographic placement they've been doing for a few years now? The s-curve no longer is used.

I'm not entirely convinced it was ever used lol. For as long as the NCAA has made the seed list available, I can't find a time where it was the case where they went strictly S-Curve, even factoring in all the other bracketing rules.

 

[khuff80]

I don't think Oklahoma can go to Oklahoma City. I think the sponsor for the site is the Big XII Conference so I don't think they can go there. Same for Iowa State.

 

[The_Answer1313]

I don't think Oklahoma can go to Oklahoma City. I think the sponsor for the site is the Big XII Conference so I don't think they can go there. Same for Iowa State.

I think as long as they don't play more than 3 home games at the arena they can go there IIRC.

 

[ukfan79]

I don't think Oklahoma can go to Oklahoma City. I think the sponsor for the site is the Big XII Conference so I don't think they can go there. Same for Iowa State.

Not true at all. Kansas has gone to Oklahoma City in the past.