can we be a 1 seed with 6 losses???
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Well...after watching pre conference games.
a 3 seed in Louisville would be a gift - since our lack of rebounding and knack for allowing putbacks and second shots - doesn't seem compatible with a 1 or 2 seed type caliber team.
I worry that a handful more losses will drop us into the 4 seed or below range - we would not get home court advantage in Louisville vs a 1 seed with that scenario. You can make the argument that the committee wouldn't give us the home court advantage as a 3 seed over a 2 seed.
In short, to control our Louisville regional "home court advantage" opportunity - we are going to have to win a ton of games. We will have to be a 2 seed minimum, and margin for error is razor thin. Likely more than this current team can manage. Hope I am wrong.
a 3 seed in Louisville would be a gift - since our lack of rebounding and knack for allowing putbacks and second shots - doesn't seem compatible with a 1 or 2 seed type caliber team.
I worry that a handful more losses will drop us into the 4 seed or below range - we would not get home court advantage in Louisville vs a 1 seed with that scenario. You can make the argument that the committee wouldn't give us the home court advantage as a 3 seed over a 2 seed.
In short, to control our Louisville regional "home court advantage" opportunity - we are going to have to win a ton of games. We will have to be a 2 seed minimum, and margin for error is razor thin. Likely more than this current team can manage. Hope I am wrong.
If we have 6 losses, but somehow win at Kansas then I think we could get a number 1. Imo we lost a number 1 seed last week in Brooklynn.
We ain't losing 10 games no way no how . Anyone who says that is hitting the rock a littttttle too hard. Now 5-6 in probable and I always thought we would lose 5 as the SEC at the top is way too strong not to. We , IMO , lose at Vandy , KU and Texas A&M and get a 1 seed as our losses will have been to a probable 1-2 seed ( KU ) , Vandy ( 3-7 seed ) , Texas A&M ( 5-9 seed ) , UCLA ( 5-10 seed ) and then a bad loss to OSU .
This is another good team, but not a #1 seed. As I look at the schedule ahead, I am thinking 23-8. For those who haven't taken a good look at the schedule yet, I recommend it. After watching Calipari teams since 2009, I recognize the familiar, awkward start to the season. Following Camp Cal, look for an acceleration in team energy. With the exception of the Duke game, we haven't put 2 solid halves together yet. Yesterday, Labissiere finally lost his starting job. That's a big development for this team. Murray and Ulis are still trying to do too much, although Ulis was spectacular yesterday. Poythress had a great 1st half but then was almost invisible in the 2nd half. We need Poythress to play hard and demand the basketball for 40 minutes. We have to rebound and shoot free throws better as a team. We need a contribution from Humphries off the bench. If those things happen, we can become a top 10 team, and earn a #2 or #3 NCAAT seed.
Call me a homer but I still believe a one seed is within reach with no more than a total of 4 losses.
I think we run the table up to KU, lose that one and one more on the road...at Vandy most likely.
If we follow up a 4 loss regular season by winning the SECT we are a lock for a 1 seed.
This team is starting to find itself and Skal will get better and better as the weeks pass and we start playing 2 gms a week.
I think we run the table up to KU, lose that one and one more on the road...at Vandy most likely.
If we follow up a 4 loss regular season by winning the SECT we are a lock for a 1 seed.
This team is starting to find itself and Skal will get better and better as the weeks pass and we start playing 2 gms a week.
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If we lose 6 at worst we are a 2 seed unless we lose to bad teams. if we lose 3-4 we are a lock for a 1 seed.
It's hard to take a stab at our record at the end of the season but if we have 6 losses (especially if one of the looses is in the SEC tournament) we would not drop to a four seed. Maybe a 3 but not a 4. Just my opinion but I'm sticking with it.
I don't disagree with that. By 6ish I'm thinking anywhere from 4-8 losses. And with how college basketball is this year I really think only 1-2 teams will have less than 4 loses.
Guys, this team is a lot like the 11 team. They are going to look awful away from home. They are sooo much better than UCLA and OSU but that didn't matter, this team is going to lose some head scratchers on the road, they are going to look like they aren't a top 50 team at times. I believe they end up with 8 or 9 losses including the SECT. They probably get a 5 seed with that.
The only caveat is Skal, if he becomes the player we hope he can become than that really changes things.
The only caveat is Skal, if he becomes the player we hope he can become than that really changes things.
We will be a 2-4 seed this year. Not likely a one. Winning at Kansas might be the only way for that, and honestly can't see that happening. After our smackdown of UCLA - look what they did. Imagine Kansas now. Yuck. Our guys better at least play aggressive as they did against Louisville.
Remember it's kind of a down year too. Some years the 1 and 2s have 1-4 losses. This is one of those years where the 1s and 2s will have between 4-7 losses. Just not a lot of dominating teams this year. Everyone has a few warts on their resume.
Um, poythress scored like the first 6 points of the second half..he didn't disappear..murray tried to put his dribble show on. Plus uofls defense adjusted..he played just how we needed him. Also, as usual people are completely ignoring his defensive contribution.
I will agree murray is trying to do too much. Not sure if Humphries is ready yet.
I see 26-8 going into NCAA Tournament with maybe 27-7 and hopefully 28-6 (if Skal develops and starts giving more).
Potential losses: two games against Vandy; a road test against Texas A&M; at Kansas; @ LSU; plus the rest of the true road games.
Then you have to figure Vandy will test Kentucky in the NCAA Tournament. It was going to be an uphill battle with Skal playing at a high level. Now, Calipari has his work really cut out from him, down year in college hoops or not.
Potential losses: two games against Vandy; a road test against Texas A&M; at Kansas; @ LSU; plus the rest of the true road games.
Then you have to figure Vandy will test Kentucky in the NCAA Tournament. It was going to be an uphill battle with Skal playing at a high level. Now, Calipari has his work really cut out from him, down year in college hoops or not.
Probably not a one seed with 6 losses, but certainly a 2 seed. Anyone saying 4 or lower with 6 losses doesn't understand how it all works.
There aren't going to be many teams with 4 losses or less. Michigan State might end up being the only one. Even Kansas will have 5. Oklahoma will probably lose 5 in the Big 12.
If we could somehow still stay at only 5 losses (that would require a pretty monumental win in Lawrence most likely) then we WILL still get the one seed in Louisville.
Having said that, I see us losing at KU then going 14-4 in the SEC for 24-7 overall. Still a shot at a 2 seed with that record though.
People say Ohio State is horrible loss. There is no excuse for it, but look at their schedule and they likely go about 19-12 and probably sneak into the tourney with a BIG Tournament win.
There aren't going to be many teams with 4 losses or less. Michigan State might end up being the only one. Even Kansas will have 5. Oklahoma will probably lose 5 in the Big 12.
If we could somehow still stay at only 5 losses (that would require a pretty monumental win in Lawrence most likely) then we WILL still get the one seed in Louisville.
Having said that, I see us losing at KU then going 14-4 in the SEC for 24-7 overall. Still a shot at a 2 seed with that record though.
People say Ohio State is horrible loss. There is no excuse for it, but look at their schedule and they likely go about 19-12 and probably sneak into the tourney with a BIG Tournament win.
How do you make predictions for a team that beats Duke and Louisville but loses to UCLA and OSU? Heck, we'll probably beat Kansas and lose to Missouri.
At this point 5-7 losses seems likely with a 2-4 seed.
At this point 5-7 losses seems likely with a 2-4 seed.
The key for Kentucky will be staying out of UNC's region. They're a horrible matchup for Kentucky with multiple interior athletes who could give UK major fits.
Anyone else is fair game. All that said, and I almost expect to see UK as UNC's 2 seed or UNC's 3 seed should the Tar heels fall to a 2 seed somehow.
Anyone else is fair game. All that said, and I almost expect to see UK as UNC's 2 seed or UNC's 3 seed should the Tar heels fall to a 2 seed somehow.
Last Saturday the way we played against Ohio State, Kansas would have whipped our azz real hard. They will be ready to beat us down if we dont stand up to them. We could go in there and pull one off, but we had better be tight
Two or even three seeds are not that far apart from the one, especially this year.. We were the overall #1 seed last year but we still had to face Notre Dame in the Elite Eight. Notre Dame was a team that destroyed Duke and won 2 out of 3 against them.. I bet we're real good by March and a dangerous 3 seed..
The way we played ul and Ohio St I will be happy with just 6 losses. The sec part of the season has always been the biggest of the season, if we only lose 4 times in 20 games I'll be happy with our 2 seed. But I see us as maybe a 5 seed. No post player and the teams in our league will kill us on the road. Murray is a turnover waiting to happen.
Cats fans always over look when we are on the road.
Cats fans always over look when we are on the road.
Who is going to kill us on the road? I have no grand illusions of us winning all of our road games, but I do think we'll go above .500 at 5-4 and win all of our home games. There are still some pretty bad teams in the SEC. We'll win at Auburn, Arkansas, & Tennessee. That's 3 there. Then at Carolina, Alabama, & Florida. We'll likely get 2 of those 3. At LSU, Vandy, and aTm will be the really tough ones.
Also, the way played against UL? We just won a game against a Top 20 team and our biggest rival. Enjoy it and stop bitching.
ul isn't good at all and we won with a missed 3 by Lee AT HOME. They out played us inside and if you think the SEC won't bring it your kidding yourself. I bet we give up 80 or more against LSU next week.
If we can't rebound against Ohio St and ul WE CAN'T REBOUND.
If we can't rebound against Ohio St and ul WE CAN'T REBOUND.
UNC doesn't have a real university. Fake academics. The whole tournament will have an asterisk this year if they win even one game. No team should have to endure the indignity of playing that abomination.
Louisville is a helluva lot better than many people think. They damn near beat both us and #1 MSU on the road. Their schedule was terrible but they smoked all those teams like a good team does. People don't realize they have 4 new starters this year and have a lot of young talent. They have a lot of upside like us and their backcourt is elite. Those 5th year players are carrying them while their young guys get better and they were missing their best interior defender yesterday. That team is going to make some noise in March, even Cal said so.
Look I know it was fashionable to think Louisville was going to be an nit team this year with all they lost. Most on this board thought the same, as did most people generally but they were wrong. It turns out they got rid of the locker room cancers from last year and are a noticeably better team this year. I don't give a damn what people think on here for me saying this stuff, and trust me it makes me sick defending Louisville like this, but they are a damn good team and have my respect. Time will prove me correct. It took all we had to hold them off yesterday and some darn good 3 point shooting. I know we did not have Briscoe but if we play them again in March it will be a war again.
