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Camron Justice Grad Transfer

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Cam Justice transferring from IUPUI. Was their leading scorer last season and will be immediately eligible. Think he’s from Kentucky but haven’t watched him enough to see if he has high major ability. Possible option of Herro leaves?
 
We're set at guard. There's not really even room for RJ Hampton unless something unexpected happens.
 
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Holy jeez, Cam Justice. Forgot about that guy.

Former Kentucky Mr. Basketball. I remember when a segment of fans had big dreams he'd become the Eastern Ky great white hope. Then he went to Vandy, then transferred, and don't think I ever heard his name again after that.

So how did he do at IUPUI?
 
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3rd all time leading scorer in Kentucky HS basketball history and Mr. Kentucky Basketball his senior year. Played very little his first two years at Vandy before transferring to IUPUI. Not sure any of that equates to a UK type of impact transfer at all especially since we are already in good shape at guard even if Herro stays in draft.
 
Why did he leave Vandy in the first place for Podunk U?
 
Holy jeez, Cam Justice. Forgot about that guy.

Former Kentucky Mr. Basketball. I remember when a certain "segment" of fans was dreaming he'd become the Eastern Ky great white hope. Then he went to Vandy, transferred, and don't think I ever heard his name again after that.

So how did he do at IUPUI?
He averaged about 19 ppg
 
Bigs, UK needs bigs. Backcourt is not the problem area imo.

Is that really our priority? We've got 6'11" Nick Richards, 6'10" E.J. Montgomery, 6'9" Sestina, and elite 6'7" to 6'8" ish type recruits in Brooks and Whitney. That's way more highly-rated skilled size than most teams have.

UK fans get WAY too hung up on size. In case y'all hadn't noticed, the teams that have been winning the national championships over the last decade usually are NOT that big, especially when compared to us (hell, the starting lineup of this year's Virginia team was 5'9", 6"2", 6'5", 6'7" and 6'9", UK fans would've been whining about that lineup as way too small). And the teams that knock us out are also usually way smaller than us.

Quit worrying so much about the inches, and a bit more about how they play.
 
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Is that really our priority?

We've got 6'11" Nick Richards, 6'10" E.J. Montgomery, 6'9" Sestina, and elite 6'7" to 6'8" ish type recruits in Brooks and Whitney. That's way more highly-rated skilled size than most teams have.

UK fans get way too hung up on size. In case y'all haven't noticed, the teams that have been winning the national championship over the last decade usually ain't that big, especially compared to us (hell, the starting lineup of this year's Virginia team was 5'9", 6"2", 6'5", 6'7" and 6'9", UK fans would've been whining about that lineup as way too small). And the teams that knock us out are usually considerably smaller than us.

But this does not mean I think we should recruit justice. But not just because we should instead by focused on size, when history shows size is NOT our problem. Recruit the best player you can.
You seem to be the one hung up on size. You list Nick Richards and EJ Montgomery’s height but ignore the fact that neither have proven to be particularly good at basketball yet.
 
Cawood is correct, we need bigs. Whitney is 6’6 and 185. He is not a big. We need Hurt, Dante or McDaniel or another 6’9 230 lb bruiser than can play. Depth on the front line is imperative.
 
Is that really our priority? We've got 6'11" Nick Richards, 6'10" E.J. Montgomery, 6'9" Sestina, and elite 6'7" to 6'8" ish type recruits in Brooks and Whitney. That's way more highly-rated skilled size than most teams have.
UK fans get WAY too hung up on size.
Quit worrying so much about the inches,
and a bit more about how they play.
If You significant other says that to you...
 
You seem to be the one hung up on size. You list Nick Richards and EJ Montgomery’s height but ignore the fact that neither have proven to be particularly good at basketball yet.
To be fair to EJ he didn’t get the playing time to develop any amount of consistency or comfort!
 
Is that really our priority? We've got 6'11" Nick Richards, 6'10" E.J. Montgomery, 6'9" Sestina, and elite 6'7" to 6'8" ish type recruits in Brooks and Whitney. That's way more highly-rated skilled size than most teams have.

UK fans get WAY too hung up on size. In case y'all hadn't noticed, the teams that have been winning the national championships over the last decade usually are NOT that big, especially when compared to us (hell, the starting lineup of this year's Virginia team was 5'9", 6"2", 6'5", 6'7" and 6'9", UK fans would've been whining about that lineup as way too small). And the teams that knock us out are also usually way smaller than us.

Quit worrying so much about the inches, and a bit more about how they play.
Guy on ESPN Louisville has beat this stat in the ground this week: 425 game minutes in the last 2 title games, and between Nova last year and UVa this year, a total of 7 minutes to players over 6’9. The game is changing, and height means less than it traditionally has. Of course you have to adopt that style for it to matter....
 
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Guy on ESPN Louisville has beat this stat in the ground this week: 425 game minutes in the last 2 title games, and between Nova last year and UVa this year, a total of 7 minutes to players over 6’9. The game is changing, and height means less than it traditionally has. Of course you have to adopt that style for it to matter....


That's the problem. Coach Cal is pretty stubborn and prefers size. If he could put five 7 footers on the floor together that can all guard every position he probably would do it. I'd rather go to a 4 guard/wing offense with a quick shot blocker being the only guy in the paint. You have to have reliable shooters though. They also have to be able to create their own shot or run an offense that gets people open with multiple screens.
 
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Is that really our priority? We've got 6'11" Nick Richards, 6'10" E.J. Montgomery, 6'9" Sestina, and elite 6'7" to 6'8" ish type recruits in Brooks and Whitney. That's way more highly-rated skilled size than most teams have.

UK fans get WAY too hung up on size. In case y'all hadn't noticed, the teams that have been winning the national championships over the last decade usually are NOT that big, especially when compared to us (hell, the starting lineup of this year's Virginia team was 5'9", 6"2", 6'5", 6'7" and 6'9", UK fans would've been whining about that lineup as way too small). And the teams that knock us out are also usually way smaller than us.

Quit worrying so much about the inches, and a bit more about how they play.
UK needs a rim protector. Neither Richards nor EJ did much of that last year. Brooks and Whitney are not gonna be rim protectors. UK needs bigs.
 
UK needs a rim protector. Neither Richards nor EJ did much of that last year. Brooks and Whitney are not gonna be rim protectors. UK needs bigs.

Oh please, the whole "rim protector" mantra has become so outdated. It's almost like you some of you guys stopped watching what's actually happening in college basketball about seven years ago or so.

It's become clear that you don't need a big ole "rim protector" nowadays. Virginia started basically four guards plus one limited 6'9" guy, and they won the national championship; last year Villanova went with a 6'8" non-shotblocker as their center, and they won the national championship; In 16, Villanova went with four guards plus only one limited big, and won the national championship; in 15 Duke went with essentially four guards plus one outstanding offensive but worthless defensive big man, and won the national championship, etc.

Guarding the perimeter has become more essential than the lane in this era. Richards and EJ can guard the rim as well as quite a few centers on national title teams in recent years, the question is whether they can do the other stuff?
 
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Oh please, the whole "rim protector" mantra has become so outdated. It's almost like you some of you guys stopped watching what's actually happening in college basketball about six or seven years ago.

It's become quite clear that you don't need a big ole gigantic "rim protector" to win nowadays. Virginia played with basically four guards plus one limited 6'9" guy, and they won the national championship; last year Villanova went with a 6'8" non-shotblocker as their center, and they won a national championship; In 16, Villanova went with essentially four guard plus only one big, and they won a national championship; in 15 Duke went with essentially four guards plus one excellent offensive but worthless defensive big man, and won the national championship, etc.

Guarding the perimeter has become more essential than the lane in this era. Richards and EJ can guard the rim as well as quite a few centers on national title teams in recent years, the question is whether they can do the other stuff?

It's not what everyone else is doing. It is what Coach Cal does and he doesn't run a 4 guard offense that shoots a ton of 3's. He also needs a very good big in the paint most years to go far in the tournament with the way he wants to play.
 
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Oh please, the whole "rim protector" mantra has become so outdated. It's almost like you some of you guys stopped watching what's actually happening in college basketball about seven years ago or so.

It's become quite clear that you don't need a big ole gigantic "rim protector" to win nowadays. Virginia played with basically four guards plus one limited 6'9" guy, and they won the national championship; last year Villanova went with a 6'8" non-shotblocker as their center, and they won a national championship; In 16, Villanova went with essentially four guard plus only one big, and they won a national championship; in 15 Duke went with essentially four guards plus one excellent offensive but worthless defensive big man, and won the national championship, etc.

Guarding the perimeter has become more essential than the lane in this era. Richards and EJ can guard the rim as well as quite a few centers on national title teams in recent years, the question is whether they can do the other stuff?
True but a rim protector makes guarding the perimeter easier as you can go out and pressure and guard tight knowing you have back up. And Virginia and Texas Tech didn't do it without one they both had them a real good one each. Don't have to be 7 footer statue type, both these team proved a 6-8 quick athletic 4 can play the role and did very well and made a big difference to help both teams get to where they did.
 
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We're set at guard. There's not really even room for RJ Hampton unless something unexpected happens.
No room? are you one of those that believes Herro & Johnson are coming back if they are not lottery picks? not happening!!!...we need more depth than we had this year, another grad transfer wouldn't be a bad thing...not sure if he is the best choice but it would be wise to look at a few
 
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Oh please, the whole "rim protector" mantra has become so outdated. It's almost like you some of you guys stopped watching what's actually happening in college basketball about seven years ago or so.

It's become quite clear that you don't need a big ole gigantic "rim protector" to win nowadays. Virginia started basically four guards plus one limited 6'9" guy, and they won the national championship; last year Villanova went with a 6'8" non-shotblocker as their center, and they won a national championship; In 16, Villanova went with essentially four guards plus only one limited big, and they won a national championship; in 15 Duke went with essentially four guards plus one excellent offensive but worthless defensive big man, and won the national championship, etc.

Guarding the perimeter has become far more essential than the lane in this era. Richards and EJ can guard the rim as well as quite a few centers on national title teams in recent years, the question is whether they can do the other stuff?
Cal likes to run guys off the line and force them into the lane where the big guys can block their shots. Maybe you know better than Cal does. I'm sure you do what with all your accomplishments in coaching and all.
 
True but a rim protector makes guarding the perimeter easier as you can go out and pressure and guard tight knowing you have back up. And Virginia and Texas Tech didn't do it without one they both had them a real good one each. Don't have to be 7 footer statue type, both these team proved a 6-8 quick athletic 4 can play the role and did very well and made a big difference to help both teams get to where they did.

Everyone can use a Bill Russell
 
No room? are you one of those that believes Herro & Johnson are coming back if they are not lottery picks? not happening!!!...we need more depth than we had this year, another grad transfer wouldn't be a bad thing...not sure if he is the best choice but it would be wise to look at a few
As far as Justice goes, Cal would have to believe he had a good shot at beating out Baker for pt.
If Baker we're to transfer then I don't know if you could do any better than Justice.
Like another poster pointed out 19ppg in the Horizon is pretty damn good.
NKU, Wright St etc. Horizon is not a bad mid major league.
 
As far as Justice goes, Cal would have to believe he had a good shot at beating out Baker for pt.
If Baker we're to transfer then I don't know if you could do any better than Justice.
Like another poster pointed out 19ppg in the Horizon is pretty damn good.
NKU, Wright St etc. Horizon is not a bad mid major league.
Shot 40% from 3 at Vandy his freshman year..
 
Is that really our priority? We've got 6'11" Nick Richards, 6'10" E.J. Montgomery, 6'9" Sestina, and elite 6'7" to 6'8" ish type recruits in Brooks and Whitney. That's way more highly-rated skilled size than most teams have.

UK fans get WAY too hung up on size. In case y'all hadn't noticed, the teams that have been winning the national championships over the last decade usually are NOT that big, especially when compared to us (hell, the starting lineup of this year's Virginia team was 5'9", 6"2", 6'5", 6'7" and 6'9", UK fans would've been whining about that lineup as way too small). And the teams that knock us out are also usually way smaller than us.

Quit worrying so much about the inches, and a bit more about how they play.
Yeah, after watching Wiseman tonight, you're right, UK doesn't bigs like him.
 
Is that really our priority? We've got 6'11" Nick Richards, 6'10" E.J. Montgomery, 6'9" Sestina, and elite 6'7" to 6'8" ish type recruits in Brooks and Whitney. That's way more highly-rated skilled size than most teams have.

UK fans get WAY too hung up on size. In case y'all hadn't noticed, the teams that have been winning the national championships over the last decade usually are NOT that big, especially when compared to us (hell, the starting lineup of this year's Virginia team was 5'9", 6"2", 6'5", 6'7" and 6'9", UK fans would've been whining about that lineup as way too small). And the teams that knock us out are also usually way smaller than us.

Quit worrying so much about the inches, and a bit more about how they play.
Your last line reminds me of what I use to tell women.
 
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Is that really our priority? We've got 6'11" Nick Richards, 6'10" E.J. Montgomery, 6'9" Sestina, and elite 6'7" to 6'8" ish type recruits in Brooks and Whitney. That's way more highly-rated skilled size than most teams have.

UK fans get WAY too hung up on size. In case y'all hadn't noticed, the teams that have been winning the national championships over the last decade usually are NOT that big, especially when compared to us (hell, the starting lineup of this year's Virginia team was 5'9", 6"2", 6'5", 6'7" and 6'9", UK fans would've been whining about that lineup as way too small). And the teams that knock us out are also usually way smaller than us.

Quit worrying so much about the inches, and a bit more about how they play.
And hit some free throws in crucial Tourney games.
 
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We're set at guard. There's not really even room for RJ Hampton unless something unexpected happens.
If Herro leaves, Calipari needs one more guard. Whitney, Allen, and Brooks are forwards. That means a backcourt of Hagans, Quickley, Baker, Maxey, and Brad. Three sophomores, a freshman, and a walk on. Not enough scoring weapons. If Baker's knee gives him trouble, or if one of the starters gets injured, we would be down to three scholarship guards. There are open spots on the roster. We need another SG and another PF.
 
Cawood is correct, we need bigs. Whitney is 6’6 and 185. He is not a big. We need Hurt, Dante or McDaniel or another 6’9 230 lb bruiser than can play. Depth on the front line is imperative.

All four of the final 4 teams had one thing in common. They all had multiple three point shooters. Not sure without Herro and Johnson that we have any dead eye three point shooters . This is the type of kid we could use !
 
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A thing that concerns me regarding our bigger guys is that both Nick and EJ are foul phone
And Sestina has also had a propensity to pick up fouls, hasn't he? But, between the three of them one would think UK would be alright.
 
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