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Cal, K, and Pitino in March

EvilMD

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Since Cal has been at UK....

1st round
Cal 5-0
K 4-2
Pitino 4-2

2nd round (Thrilling 32)
Cal 5-0
K 4-0
Pitino 4-0

1st 2 rounds
Cal 10-0
K 8-2
Pitino 8-2

3rd round (Sweet 16)
Cal 5-0
K 3-1
Pitino 3-1

1st 3 rounds
Cal 15-0
K 11-3
Pitino 11-3

4th round (Elite 8)
Cal 4-1
K 2-1
Pitino 2-1

1st 4 rounds
Cal: 19-1
K 13-4
Pitino 13-4

5th round (Final 4)
Cal 2-2
K 2-0
Pitino 1-1

1st 5 rounds
Cal: 21-3
K: 15-4
Pitino: 14-5

6th round (Finals)
Cal 1-1
K 2-0
Pitino 1-0

Overall
Cal: 22-4
K: 17-4
Pitino: 15-5

Head-to-head
Cal 2-0
K 0-1
Pitino 1-2
 
Amazing record! UK is experiencing another golden age of bb right now. Calipari is uniquely gifted to lead this program and I hope he stays until he is ready to retire.....
 
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Also I don't K and Pitino have ever been to the NIT like Cal. Either way great record.

He has been in the NIT, twice with ul, once with Boston College, and once with Providence. He never made the NCAA tournament at BC while there. And he missed the NCAA tournament twice while at Kentucky because of penalties.
 
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Since Cal has been at UK....



5th round (Final 4)
Cal 2-2
K 2-0
Pitino 1-1

1st 5 rounds
Cal: 21-3
K: 15-4
Pitino: 14-5

6th round (Finals)
Cal 1-1
K 2-0
Pitino 1-0

Interesting stat right here. Many on here seem to take more pride in the perfect record in the early rounds for Cal than in K's perfect record in the last rounds.

Personally, while Im glad there are no first or second round flameouts (except for the first round flame out in the NIT of course), I would much rather have the perfect record in the final four rounds and spare a couple of early round flameouts. That would mean more titles, which is what its all about. Very telling post indeed.
 
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He has been in the NIT, twice with ul, once with Boston College, and once with Providence. He never made the NCAA tournament at BC while there. And he missed the NCAA tournament twice while at Kentucky because of penalties.
To be fair , the penalties weren't of his doing.
 
Seriously, that's what you got out of that post. Can you read me the line that said he was responsible for the penalties?
I'm no Pitino fan but the discussion turned to how many times each coach has missed the NCAA tournament. I don't think you can include those years because he had nothing to do with them . He is a scumbag though and I can't stand him . I DO think you can include coach K's bad back year though.
 
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I'm no Pitino fan but the discussion turned to how many times each coach has missed the NCAA tournament. I don't think you can include those years because he had nothing to do with them . He is a scumbag though and I can't stand him . I DO think you can include coach K's bad back year though.

Actually I don't hate Rick at all. He's at a rival school so I am no fan but the subject matter for my post was that he NEVER went to the NIT as a coach and I was showing the schools when he was coach that went to the NIT. You're reading WAY too deep into something that was very simple.
 
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Interesting stat right here. Many on here seem to take more pride in the perfect record in the early rounds for Cal than in K's perfect record in the last rounds.

Personally, while Im glad there are no first or second round flameouts (except for the first round flame out in the NIT of course), I would much rather have the perfect record in the final four rounds and spare a couple of early round flameouts. That would mean more titles, which is what its all about. Very telling post indeed.

But if you lose in the first or second round, you don't get a chance to lose in the final four do ya?
 
But if you lose in the first or second round, you don't get a chance to lose in the final four do ya?

So who's record in the last six years would you rather have? Cal or K

Judging by your posts you would spare the national title to avoid the first/second round flameouts?
 
So who's record in the last six years would you rather have? Cal or K

Judging by your posts you would spare the national title to avoid the first/second round flameouts?

See that is one of your bad traits that you have. You assume that I want victories over championships. My point was you can't get to a championship trophy if you lose in either the first or second round. See where your judging gets you? You're get better when that chip on your shoulder leaves, lol.
 
See that is one of your bad traits that you have. You assume that I want victories over championships. My point was you can't get to a championship trophy if you lose in either the first or second round. See where your judging gets you? You're get better when that chip on your shoulder leaves, lol.

Again, which record would you rather have….Cal or K? (just for clarification ;))

And I understand your point completely. But by arguing that you can't the championship trophy if you lost in the first or second round is ignorant in this case, because as so many have pointed out, K has lost a couple of times in the early rounds during Cal's time at UK, yet there K sits with 2 titles while Cal has 1.
 
So who's record in the last six years would you rather have? Cal or K

Judging by your posts you would spare the national title to avoid the first/second round flameouts?

I wouldn't trade Cal's for anybody's. I will never forget destroying Wake and Cornell in 2010, the amazing Princeton/WVU/Ohio St/UNC stretch in 2011, beating IU, U of L and Kansas on the way to a title in 2012, the amazing Wichita/Louisville/Michigan/Wisconsin run in 2014, and the annihilation of WVU and the game for the ages against Notre Dame last year. Yes it would have been nice to seal the deal another time or two, but them's the breaks.
 
And Coach K's two titles came via easy paths to the title game. Remember when Duke used to flame out against athletic teams like Arizona, LSU, etc in the early rounds? Last year they got Utah/Gonzaga. Nice teams, but come on.
 
Interesting stat right here. Many on here seem to take more pride in the perfect record in the early rounds for Cal than in K's perfect record in the last rounds.

Personally, while Im glad there are no first or second round flameouts (except for the first round flame out in the NIT of course), I would much rather have the perfect record in the final four rounds and spare a couple of early round flameouts. That would mean more titles, which is what its all about. Very telling post indeed.
Something tells me you weren't saying that before this year.
 
If you ask me which one do you want me to have Coach K or Coach Cal.

that's a tough question. To be honest, i would take Coach Cals record. It would be different if Coach cal has one less final four...

but the difference between coach Cal and coach k is one game, and after that Coach Cal slaughters Coach K;s record. And the fact that Coach K is copying Coach Cal now, would say Coach K also looks at Coach Cal's record as some way superior.
 
Re Cal and K, one is 68 and the other 56. If you're trying to choose which you'd rather have, shouldn't that factor?
 
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Great post, Cal is literally the ****ing man.

If not for Duke winning the title this past season then Cal would have better numbers than Coach K by far. (Past 6 years)

We have another legitimate shot at the title this year though, and we always will with Coach Cal.
 
Except K brought his team to the NCAA tournament each year. Cal has a year of no show which is a huge negative
That was the year after winning a National Championship and losing almost the entire team to the NBA. Not to mention Nerlens tearing his ACL, we wouldn't have missed the tournament with Noel.
 
Again, which record would you rather have….Cal or K? (just for clarification ;))

And I understand your point completely. But by arguing that you can't the championship trophy if you lost in the first or second round is ignorant in this case, because as so many have pointed out, K has lost a couple of times in the early rounds during Cal's time at UK, yet there K sits with 2 titles while Cal has 1.

Cal's obviously. Now there are a few morons around that will tell you that that winning in the final four is all due to coaching or all due to talent. They fail to understand that there is a lot of chance involved with winning those two games. All four teams are fairly substantial ball clubs. Factors like injuries, who has the hot hand, match ups, difficult of the trek getting to the final four all play a key role.

Bottom line is that if you want to win the dance, you gotta have an invitation. The more invitations, the better chance you have. I'm not a moron. I know which coach is most likely to go back. I know the more times you are in those 5th and 6th rounds, the better outcome you are going to have in the long run.
 
Comparing Cal to Coach K is a little unfair. K has had the luxury of 40 years of experience at a perennial powerhouse. A "blue blood"

Cal had been at one for 6 years.

As much as some people would love for Coach K to be here instead of Cal it's not happening.

I think Cal, despite his already pristine record, is still learning. If he sticks around for another 10 years as has been hinted by himself here lately that would give him enough time to grow and begin to reach similar milestones to coach K.

Coach K has went through several long droughts too. No final fours from 2005-2009. No titles from 2002-2009. No titles from 1993-2000. And he choked badly in 99.

I just can't help but wonder what some of you would have said during those droughts.

He even had a losing record at Duke in his 2nd and 3rd seasons. He wouldn't even have lasted long enough here to accomplish the things he's accomplished at Duke is some on here were in charge.
 
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