Brown and Key Drop Too Many Passes

[YaketySax]

Last season



14% drop rate last season



I didn’t rewatch Ball St but I recall some drops watching live. Hopefully that drop rate falls further. To at least the SEC average of 9% but I’d hope both nfl prospects would be even less than that.

 

[gamalielkid]

Last season

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I didn’t rewatch Ball St but I recall some drops watching live. Hopefully that drop rate falls further. To at least the SEC average of 9% but I’d hope both nfl prospects would be even less than that.

I just glanced at the list - but aren;t Tillman and Burden considered two of the top receivers in the league. Could it be that those guys have other factors figuring in on their drop rates? Like who is covering them? Wouldn't the quality of the defense still have something to do with some of the drops? Much more likely to drop a pass when you are covered up than when no one is within 5 steps of you. I will always remember this saying form 50 years ago "Statistics are for losers" - lol!

Go Big Blue!

 

[K_TIME]

Interesting stats I've never seen before.

1. My eye test/gut is I totally agree on Bario. He dropped an easy ball on 1st drive and last year he wasn't sure handed either for the year.
2. Also, not the same as drops....but on deep balls...Dane has elite ball skills. Can high point the ball, I'd bet his vertical jump is really good. THe catch at Florida was great...the Ole Miss game winner was taken off the board but was impressive.

But Barion is really poor at deep balls last year. Hit a few in UGA game but most other games it was an incompllete pass to throw him deep. In the Ball St game....he made little effort to fight back on deep ball that was underthrown.

Let's see how 2023 unfolds...but I like Dane as a solid WR....Barion needs to mature up as a WR.

 

[EliteBlue]

Interesting stats I've never seen before.

1. My eye test/gut is I totally agree on Bario. He dropped an easy ball on 1st drive and last year he wasn't sure handed either for the year.
2. Also, not the same as drops....but on deep balls...Dane has elite ball skills. Can high point the ball, I'd bet his vertical jump is really good. THe catch at Florida was great...the Ole Miss game winner was taken off the board but was impressive.

But Barion is really poor at deep balls last year. Hit a few in UGA game but most other games it was an incompllete pass to throw him deep. In the Ball St game....he made little effort to fight back on deep ball that was underthrown.

Let's see how 2023 unfolds...but I like Dane as a solid WR....Barion needs to mature up as a WR.

I’ve made the same observation with Brown before on deep balls as well. He is purely a speed guy and wants to try to run by his guy at all cost. There have been multiple passes last season and in the Ball State game where ball was thrown inside or outside, essentially “throwing the guy open” by throwing to space and then it’s on the receiver to adjust to the ball. Brown has a tendency to just keep running straight w no attempt to adjust to the ball.

A fade to brown is almost always a wasted play. Key should be the go to Fade/go route receiver. He’s bigger and has proven effective at winning jump balls and catching through contact. Brown should get more of the mid range post, digs, drags, outs, corners, and quick slants. Use an angle to get him the ball behind the LBs and then let him use his speed and field vision to make a play and beat the last defender in the open field…same concept as punt and kick returns

 

[SosaUK1987]

Considering they were freshmen in the SEC, I think they will be okay, especially Key. I personally think he’s better than BB but I absolutely love Bb’s attitude and that speed. Love Dane’s attitude too.

 

[rick64]

I don't expect them to make all the tough catches, but they certainly have to make easy ones.

 

[Phil McKracken]

"You don't have to catch them all, but you just can't drop them all."

Cal to our receivers...

 

[mrschwump]

What I saw with Brown was that he needed to improve the strength in his hands. Hopefully he's done that in the off season.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

"You don't have to catch them all, but you just can't drop them all."

Cal to our receivers...

You sr are a genius.

 

[vhcat70]

Define a drop. One finger tip is a drop?

 

[JPFisher]

I honestly wonder how much Levis' lack of touch and the pressures forcing him to throw really bad passes contributed to that figure. I can't imagine it's easy holding onto a rocket thrown from 10 yards away.

Brown's most notable drop against Ball State could've been a big gain. Looked to me like he started running to beat the edge before he secured the ball, so maybe they really do have a case of the drops. Maybe last year was freshman folly. Maybe the Ball State drops were first game nerves. Regardless, I hope Woodard and Coen work with them on catching.

 

[STL_Cat]

Interesting stats there. Without looking at any type of "advanced metrics" -- Brown I've witnessed drop several balls I felt like he should catch. Lots of times I've said "man you gotta catch that BB." Haven't found myself saying that about Dane Key. Pretty much every catchable ball that comes his way he secures, so it seems to me. Guy seemed as sure-handed as it gets last year, especially for a freshman WR.

 

[The Snoke]

Settle Sax… it’s gonna be OK. I understand your question, understand where they are/were. I cant wait for what I believe is coming!!!

 

[coachcombs57]

Dane and barion were both rough in the 1st half, shaped it up after half time

 

[megablue]

If I recall, Kio Sanford had a number of drops until his Senior year, when he was very, very reliable. I suppose maturity and plenty of reps come into play. It's a process ...

 

[Seth_C]

Top to bottom, we lack discipline and consistency. It’s been the same for ten years. It will not change.

 

[SosaUK1987]

I said what I said and they drop balls all game long lol.

 

[YaketySax]

 

[catsfanbgky]

I will take Barion Brown every day of the week. Kind of odd to pick he and Keyes out to point fingers. They are YOUNG and will make some mistakes. BUT both make up for them plenty. By the way, most speedsters like Brown do actually drop some passes. Nobody is the total package.

 

[rolaid]

Key didn’t drop shit - all 3 passes were off target and well guarded

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Barion is really poor at deep balls last year. Hit a few in UGA game

He did but even those were misplayed to an extent and fortunate to bring them in. He has a tendency to try to catch with his body which results in many balls getting into his pads.

Key didn’t drop shit - all 3 passes were off target and well guarded

Key has a serious drop issue this season. Definitely a bit of a sophomore slump. He can't afford to drop passes because he's not the huge big play guy.

All the passes were catchable and should've been caught. Leary was a tad off early but didn't get help either. Cummings dropped a big play that went through his hands and his his pads.

First game key, Davis, and Cummings had drops. Something we need to clean up for sure

 

[UKfirst]

Their sophomores. They’ll be fine as the season wears on. Not worried at all.

 

[Chum83]

Define a drop. One finger tip is a drop?

Good question. I’d be curious to know that as well. I still don’t think it’s necessarily relevant to the conversation since whatever the definition is, it’s the same for the rest of the receivers.

Key and Brown have had too many drops. I don’t think that’s debatable. It’s evident with the eye test and on film, and these stats back that up. When it’s winning time a QB is going to go to a receiver he can trust (like he did with Tayvion Robinson).

That doesn’t mean drops will continue to be a problem. It’s a small sample size. Hopefully they’ll clean that up moving forward.

 

[YaketySax]

All relevant caveats (just two games, youth, and whatever else) but also

Key leads the team with four drops (26% drop rate), while Brown has two. These are considered “catchable” passes.

Secstatcat

Secstatcat

www.secstatcat.com

Bottomline, UK’s most targeted WRs can’t have drop rates higher than the SEC avg for their position.

 

[YaketySax]

I don’t think anyone is still arguing this since it seems like a settled issue but in any case

 

[BigBlueManSouthCentralKY]

Key and B Brown letting the team down. This is why I was hoping would get an experienced and reliable WR out of the portal. They can afford to play mentally weak knowing our young WR's aren't ready yet. Hopefully Robinson is target one on every passing play like Wandale was the rest of the season till some of our younger WR's can grow up some. This is the year we needed Crowdus to perform. Where has he been? Disappointing out of all of our WR's only Robinson is the only one we can count on.

 

[Smashcat]

"You don't have to catch them all, but you just can't drop them all."

Cal to our receivers...

Especially at UGA.

 

[megablue]

Kentucky receivers have a case of the sophomore drops

No one has dropped more passes in the SEC than Kentucky's two primary receivers. What's up with their case of the sophomore drops?

www.on3.com

 

[YaketySax]

They had disproportionate number of drops as freshmen too. We are 18 games into their careers…I’m calling it a feature of their overall games