BCG forfeits 4 games

[StubbornPenny]

http://thebiglead.com/2015/12/06/bi...g-forfeits-first-4-wins-because-of-paperwork/

Serving as coach and AD, then lets this happen. Hate to say it Billy, but it sounds like you were on the sauce...

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

I'm guessing BCG isn't the most detail oriented. Not noticing a clerical error in paperwork isn't surprising. The guy is just not professional enough to run an athletic department. This is only the beginning; I foresee lots of issues coming for the ol guy soon enough.

 

[catfan111]

Sounds like an error on the compliance part. Didn't know the AD was responsible for that part. We have Mitch so why have Sandy Bell if this is the case?

 

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

Wait, you mean to tell me that Clyde might not understand the requirements of his job??????? SHOCKED.

 

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

It makes it even funnier that Clyde can't win a game that the other team forfeited. BOTH TEAMS LOST. What a total dipstick.

"There’s another twist to that opener against Lancaster-based Cedar Valley College, which was played in Ranger: Cedar Valley also was found to have an ineligible player, so the game is now recorded as a double-forfeit. That’s right, both teams lost."

 

[StubbornPenny]

Sounds like an error on the compliance part. Didn't know the AD was responsible for that part. We have Mitch so why have Sandy Bell if this is the case?

So you think RANGER COLLEGE has a compliance department? Really dude? Ranger. College. Okay.

Anyway, here's their entire athletic staff: http://www.rangersports.net/information/directory/index . I'd assume it isn't the responsibility of the website director, public information officer, or head athletic trainer... so I'd guess it's BCG's or Stan Feaster's (Associate A.D.) fault, and either way, in a college and department that small, it'd probably be his job to get stuff like that done correctly.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

One person is supposed to know all these arcane, beaurocratic rules and be head coach and athletic director? The rule also caused the team they played in the first game to forfeit as well. So they both forfeited. I'm not sure BCG should have this one solely on his lap.

 

[StubbornPenny]

One person is supposed to know all these arcane, beaurocratic rules and be head coach and athletic director? The rule also caused the team they played in the first game to forfeit as well. So they both forfeited. I'm not sure BCG should have this one solely on his lap.

There's two athletic administrators at the college, BCG and Stan Feaster. The buck has to stop with one of them. Only one of them has a known history of alcoholism interfering with work. Draw your own conclusions.

 

[wromanp7]

It makes it even funnier that Clyde can't win a game that the other team forfeited. BOTH TEAMS LOST. What a total dipstick.

"There’s another twist to that opener against Lancaster-based Cedar Valley College, which was played in Ranger: Cedar Valley also was found to have an ineligible player, so the game is now recorded as a double-forfeit. That’s right, both teams lost."

Did Ranger rush the court?

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

There's two athletic administrators at the college, BCG and Stan Feaster. The buck has to stop with one of them. Only one of them has a known history of alcoholism interfering with work. Draw your own conclusions.

True, but the incorrect paperwork came from the school the player had originally agreed to play for. Ranger just didn't catch the issue which sounds pretty petty. The other team in the first game had the same problem. I find that odd. I'm no BCG fan, but I don't think drinking was the problem.

 

[letitrainuk]

Who's Billy Gillispie?

 

[StubbornPenny]

True, but the incorrect paperwork came from the school the player had originally agreed to play for. Ranger just didn't catch the issue which sounds pretty petty. The other team in the first game had the same problem. I find that odd. I'm no BCG fan, but I don't think drinking was the problem.

drinking or no, you'd think it'd be their responsibility to catch it. He may be totally sober and still incompetent as an AD.

 

[Ben101er]

The paperwork was probably the period in between secretaries, since Billy goes through 4-5 a season.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

drinking or no, you'd think it'd be their responsibility to catch it. He may be totally sober and still incompetent as an AD.

Good Lord, or it may have been some highly technical issue he has had no experience in understanding. For all you know, the other school could have deliberately filled out the form incorrectly. It is still odd that it happened to two schools. Judge it how you wish.

 

[wildcatsboston1984]

Sounds like an error on the compliance part. Didn't know the AD was responsible for that part. We have Mitch so why have Sandy Bell if this is the case?

Because it's a JUCO. I'm shocked they even have an SID. A lot of JUCOs won't even have an athletic website or if they do all it does is post a roster than a schedule at the beginning of the season then never update it with results.

 

[wildcatsboston1984]

So you think RANGER COLLEGE has a compliance department? Really dude? Ranger. College. Okay.

Anyway, here's their entire athletic staff: http://www.rangersports.net/information/directory/index . I'd assume it isn't the responsibility of the website director, public information officer, or head athletic trainer... so I'd guess it's BCG's or Stan Feaster's (Associate A.D.) fault, and either way, in a college and department that small, it'd probably be his job to get stuff like that done correctly.

At some schools the SID also serves as the compliance director. Administrative personnel all have to multitask at these sub D2 levels.

For example, my boss is the SID and serves as Assistant Athletic Director and Compliance Director. He also oversees the facilities for the sports he handles. Our Head Athletic Trainer is also an Assistant AD, I don't really know what his AD responsibilities are because our AD never communicates a damn thing to anyone if you're not a head coach.

I'm the Assistant SID, and along with normal D1 type SID duties, I also handle the below

• All social media - at most D1s they have someone specifically for that job
• All aspects of the video operations outside of coaches film - most D1s also have another person for this job
• Hire all game-day personnel outside of refs and ball boys. This includes game clock, scoreboard, etc. Many D1 SIDs are only responsible for hiring someone for stats and the non-essential personnel like social media, video, etc.
• Facilities for the sports I handle - I have to set up nearly everything for gameday other than painting the lines, and if there is any problem whatsoever it falls on me to fix it or find the person to fix it. Most D1 SIDs don't even have to think about this stuff
• I'm 100% positive I am forgetting something else.

And to top it all of, no student employment staff in the office, so all that inane, mindless, repetitive, tedious, boring tasks literally every D1 SID would likely never consider doing it themselves for a single millisecond, I have to do it. I actually just eliminated some of them because I just don't want to do them.

 

[wildcatsboston1984]

One person is supposed to know all these arcane, beaurocratic rules and be head coach and athletic director? The rule also caused the team they played in the first game to forfeit as well. So they both forfeited. I'm not sure BCG should have this one solely on his lap.

At my D3 alma mater the has 20 sports, the athletic director serves as the compliance director and he used to also be the head coach for men's and women's cross country, indoor track, and outdoor track. Yes, six sports, the AD, and the compliance director.

And the NCAA rule book is much bigger and more complex than the JUCO rulebook, the JUCO rulebook is only 362 pages! The rules don't even actually start until page 39, they end on page 317. That's only 279 pages of actual rules, and that includes the full-page ads that are littered in between those 279 pages.

Meanwhile the NCAA D1 manual has rules started on page 1 and running to page 391 with small font, smaller paragraph spacing, smaller margins, and no ads in the middle of it. The JUCO manual is about the same size as the D3 NCAA manual, but the D3 manual also have smaller fonts, page margins, and paragraph spacing without ads, so in effect it's actually longer despite being approximately the same # of pages.

If the retired AD at my alma mater could handle six sports, being an AD, and being the compliance director, surely the JUCO AD should be able to handle only coaching basketball when they only have 12 sports. And rodeo only has an 81-page rule book, which includes all membership and playing rules, with like 4-inch margins so one could read through that rulebook in a half hour or less because the AD could just ignore the vast majority of the rule book.

 

[docholiday51]

I think they were 5% tougher than the rules allowed,easy mistake to make if you're Billy G

 

[Mojocat]

There's two athletic administrators at the college, BCG and Stan Feaster. The buck has to stop with one of them. Only one of them has a known history of alcoholism interfering with work. Draw your own conclusions.

Why feel compelled to draw any conclusions? And really, what you mean in a case like this where there's an absence of much information, is just "feel free to jump to a conclusion, especially because it's a guy we don't like".

Meh. Big deal. An administrative snafu at a BFE junior college. If someone is wanting something in BG's history to complain about, this comes in at around #108.....

 

[wildcatsboston1984]

One person is supposed to know all these arcane, beaurocratic rules and be head coach and athletic director? The rule also caused the team they played in the first game to forfeit as well. So they both forfeited. I'm not sure BCG should have this one solely on his lap.

And coaches are supposed to know the rules as well. They don't just get a free pass on the rules because they are a coach. If it's like in the NCAA, and I have no idea if it is, all coaches are supposed to pass a rules test every single year.

 

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

I think they were 5% tougher than the rules allowed,easy mistake to make if you're Billy G

Too many damn pop tarts if you ask me.....

 

[docholiday51]

Too many damn pop tarts if you ask me.....

I think there is a minimum on those things,unless you're at UNC ....then you can get fake ones and you're fine.

 

[GLR5555]

I'm sure it was sitting on the fax machine. Just got overlooked.

 

[docholiday51]

I'm sure it was sitting on the fax machine. Just got overlooked.

He was using it as a coaster for his bottle of Wild Turkey 101

 

[Xception]

They needed 5% more paperwork .

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

From having the best job in D-1 college basketball to coaching Ranger community college. Wow.

 

[letitrainuk]

I'm sure it was sitting on the fax machine. Just got overlooked.

You went back in time for that one haha

 

[docholiday51]

From having the best job in D-1 college basketball to coaching Ranger community college. Wow.

Just proves how far in over his head he was,the UK machine kinda ran itself for the years he was here.I hope he sends A.C. Law a X-mas present each year.

 

[BurpinTurpin]

 

[sambowieshin]

 

[MegaBlue05]

Well, when you deal with contracts on cocktail napkins, you're bound to accidentally misplace a couple. Especially after a long night of Dr. Pepper, peanut butter crackers and Jack Daniels.

 

[preacherfan]

And coaches are supposed to know the rules as well. They don't just get a free pass on the rules because they are a coach. If it's like in the NCAA, and I have no idea if it is, all coaches are supposed to pass a rules test every single year.

Yet, over the years, we know of coaches who didn't know the current rules: 1) BCG having a player goaltend a freethrow. 2) Roy Williams not knowing the medical redshirt rule had changed and 3) Tubby Smith talking about redshirting Ramon Harris after he played 2 minutes or so in one game.

 

[zannmann]

To think Barney hired that idiot to coach the greatest basketball program of all time.

 

[BurpinTurpin]

Yet, over the years, we know of coaches who didn't know the current rules: 1) BCG having a player goaltend a freethrow. 2) Roy Williams not knowing the medical redshirt rule had changed and 3) Tubby Smith talking about redshirting Ramon Harris after he played 2 minutes or so in one game.

Don't forget about Roy "not knowing" he was responsible for following his player's academics, even though he was receiving a hefty yearly bonus for his team's APR.

 

[Poetax]

Sounds like an error on the compliance part. Didn't know the AD was responsible for that part. We have Mitch so why have Sandy Bell if this is the case?

At Ranger, Billy is also the cafeteria cook too. He wears many hats.

 

[docholiday51]

At Ranger, Billy is also the cafeteria cook too. He wears many hats.

A scary thought,if they don't win they probably eat only once a week

 

[docholiday51]

In a perfect world Billy G get hired at UL,think of the possibilities

 

[Orville Boggs]

A scary thought,if they don't win they probably eat only once a week

Pop Tarts only for 6 weeks with each loss

 

[Orville Boggs]

In a perfect world Billy G get hired at UL,think of the possibilities

Strippers, booze, fornication, fellatio, etc. BCG would add Katina to the staff.

 

[Poetax]

A scary thought,if they don't win they probably eat only once a week

There is a rumor that he put bars on the restroom doors so that the players not doing well in the first half can't get out to play the second half.