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Another UK football player pleads guilty to DUI

Twice the legal limit and doing 30 mph over on residential street. Coulda killed a whole family.

said it once and will say it again. No excuses. No second chances. Kick him off the team. Until you set examples no lessons will be learned. Would say the same thing if Levis got a dui tonight.

let him come back and you’re no better than lville.

still blows my mind this stuff isn’t automatic jail time
 
Twice the legal limit and doing 30 mph over on residential street. Coulda killed a whole family.

said it once and will say it again. No excuses. No second chances. Kick him off the team. Until you set examples no lessons will be learned. Would say the same thing if Levis got a dui tonight.

let him come back and you’re no better than lville.

still blows my mind this stuff isn’t automatic jail time

A lot of us drove intoxicated in college...most people just do not get caught. I agree he should face a stiff punishment, but not sure it should be automatic jail time. They could take away his license for a year and make his life miserable in other ways other than going to jail.
 
The thing with most athletes, not all - They go to a party or wherever and don’t have a plan to get back home
It happens at every level
Never drink and drive ever
YOU hardly ever hear about a rock star getting arrested for DUI
They always have their homies from high school or a friend they have on the payroll, just to come pick them up and take them home
Most athletes think they are rockstars but in the end they are not and never will be
 
Twice the legal limit and doing 30 mph over on residential street. Coulda killed a whole family.

said it once and will say it again. No excuses. No second chances. Kick him off the team. Until you set examples no lessons will be learned. Would say the same thing if Levis got a dui tonight.

let him come back and you’re no better than lville.

still blows my mind this stuff isn’t automatic jail time
Because of his blood alcohol content, he was required to spend 4 days in jail but the court has the discretion to confine him to 4 days in home incarceration which is what took place here.

There is no question DUI is a serious offense; 10,000 people die in the United States every year from DUI drivers. Many more innocent citizens are seriously injured each year from persons’ driving while intoxicated. History is well chronicled with otherwise “good people/nice folks” who never intended to hurt anyone, having one too many drinks, then getting in their car, drunkenly thinking they could safely drive only to subequently kill or seriously injure fellow human beings.

While DUI is a serous offense, I believe in “second chances” especially for a young person in college where drinking is a normal part of the college experience. Moreover, our culture encourages drinking alcohol as part of “enjoying life”. We often celebrate by having a drink or calling up a friend you haven’t seen in a while “to have a drink”. The problem comes when you have the one drink too many where you lose the ability to make an intelligent decision about driving your car.

Most adults don’t get fired from their jobs after getting a DUI. This young man shouldn’t be kicked off the team. I will defer to the UK Administration and/or Stoop’s judgment as to what disciplinary action should be taken. I don’t believe it ought to be dismissal.
 
A lot of us drove intoxicated in college...most people just do not get caught. I agree he should face a stiff punishment, but not sure it should be automatic jail time. They could take away his license for a year and make his life miserable in other ways other than going to jail.
Culture has changed. At least in my experience it has. If you were too messed up, you slept at the party house either on the floor, in a couch/chair, or the front yard. If you tried to drive, someone would take your keys. If you had 6 beers from 6-8pm and nothing else, you'd still be asked if you were good at 2am before you left. Everyone knew the risks and held each other accountable.

Honestly, I'm surprised we never had breathalyzers. They aren't the cheapest things, but they keep someone from incurring greater costs down the road.

This issue needs to be addressed strongly by the staff. Otherwise, it opens the door for more BS down the road.
 
For there to be another one so soon after CR's, it does raise concerns that a message was (or wasn't) sent/received the last time
This one happened before Rodriguez got his. This story was about him pleading. This happened in March.
 
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Really no excuse for this, but as a coach, I'd not have a kid sit half a season or more absent more than the basic offense. However, I'd offer only ONE second chance. Any future alcohol offense of ANY kind would mean pack. Pick up a public intox charge 18 months later, you would pack.

I think it is possible that part of the delay on CRod might stem from waiting on development of this RLewis situation. Thoughts on that? Not sure I see a clear angle.

To be direct, I'd sit them both the first three games, but no more based on what I know... maybe four.
 
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A lot of us drove intoxicated in college...most people just do not get caught. I agree he should face a stiff punishment, but not sure it should be automatic jail time. They could take away his license for a year and make his life miserable in other ways other than going to jail.
Just because “a lot of us drove intoxicated” doesn’t make this right.

try telling that to a kid who’s lost a parent to someone doing this or vise versa.

he knew better. No second chances
 
Because of his blood alcohol content, he was required to spend 4 days in jail but the court has the discretion to confine him to 4 days in home incarceration which is what took place here.

There is no question DUI is a serious offense; 10,000 people die in the United States every year from DUI drivers. Many more innocent citizens are seriously injured each year from persons’ driving while intoxicated. History is well chronicled with otherwise “good people/nice folks” who never intended to hurt anyone, having one too many drinks, then getting in their car, drunkenly thinking they could safely drive only to subequently kill or seriously injure fellow human beings.

While DUI is a serous offense, I believe in “second chances” especially for a young person in college where drinking is a normal part of the college experience. Moreover, our culture encourages drinking alcohol as part of “enjoying life”. We often celebrate by having a drink or calling up a friend you haven’t seen in a while “to have a drink”. The problem comes when you have the one drink too many where you lose the ability to make an intelligent decision about driving your car.

Most adults don’t get fired from their jobs after getting a DUI. This young man shouldn’t be kicked off the team. I will defer to the UK Administration and/or Stoop’s judgment as to what disciplinary action should be taken. I don’t believe it ought to be dismissal.
Good post, but I’ll never change my opinion on the matter regarding second chances.
It only takes once. If you are proven guilty, it’s a no brained for me.

to be honest I wish the NCAA in what little time they had left would suspend indefinitely any athlete caught doing this. Doesn’t matter who
 
Culture has changed. At least in my experience it has. If you were too messed up, you slept at the party house either on the floor, in a couch/chair, or the front yard. If you tried to drive, someone would take your keys. If you had 6 beers from 6-8pm and nothing else, you'd still be asked if you were good at 2am before you left. Everyone knew the risks and held each other accountable.

Honestly, I'm surprised we never had breathalyzers. They aren't the cheapest things, but they keep someone from incurring greater costs down the road.

This issue needs to be addressed strongly by the staff. Otherwise, it opens the door for more BS down the road.
What era was that?
 
Because of his blood alcohol content, he was required to spend 4 days in jail but the court has the discretion to confine him to 4 days in home incarceration which is what took place here.

There is no question DUI is a serious offense; 10,000 people die in the United States every year from DUI drivers. Many more innocent citizens are seriously injured each year from persons’ driving while intoxicated. History is well chronicled with otherwise “good people/nice folks” who never intended to hurt anyone, having one too many drinks, then getting in their car, drunkenly thinking they could safely drive only to subequently kill or seriously injure fellow human beings.

While DUI is a serous offense, I believe in “second chances” especially for a young person in college where drinking is a normal part of the college experience. Moreover, our culture encourages drinking alcohol as part of “enjoying life”. We often celebrate by having a drink or calling up a friend you haven’t seen in a while “to have a drink”. The problem comes when you have the one drink too many where you lose the ability to make an intelligent decision about driving your car.

Most adults don’t get fired from their jobs after getting a DUI. This young man shouldn’t be kicked off the team. I will defer to the UK Administration and/or Stoop’s judgment as to what disciplinary action should be taken. I don’t believe it ought to be dismissal.
Yeah, second chances in some situations should be the norm. Unfortunately, in many states they allow more than second chances before doing something about it. In Oklahoma 3 strikes and it is mandatory 1 year in prison. It should be that way on the second imo.
 
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Yeah, second chances in some situations should be the norm. Unfortunately, in many states they allow more than second chances before doing something about it. In Oklahoma 3 strikes and it is mandatory 1 year in prison. It should be that way on the second imo.

Couldn't agree more. I am far from a prude or tea totaled, but I am not drinking and driving. Too may options out there to put someone in danger because my dumbarse likes rum.
 
Why can’t these kids just just Hennessy at home 🍺

Why can’t these dudes just drink Colt 45s at the crib though…
You both realize saying this is a terrible look, correct? I’m not the one to play a racist card by any means but this is ridiculous. You could say the same thing without the implications.
 
Couldn't agree more. I am far from a prude or tea totaled, but I am not drinking and driving. Too may options out there to put someone in danger because my dumbarse likes rum.
You are a dumbarse if you’re drinking rum instead of bourbon 🥃.
 
Wasn't CR right at the legal limit when he was caught? there's a big difference between being right at the legal limit and being twice the legal limit. I bet most people don't even realize when they've reached the legal limit, but certainly have to be feeling it if you're twice it.
 
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Just because “a lot of us drove intoxicated” doesn’t make this right.

try telling that to a kid who’s lost a parent to someone doing this or vise versa.

he knew better. No second chances

So you drove while impaired at some point?
 
The thing with most athletes, not all - They go to a party or wherever and don’t have a plan to get back home
It happens at every level
Never drink and drive ever
YOU hardly ever hear about a rock star getting arrested for DUI
They always have their homies from high school or a friend they have on the payroll, just to come pick them up and take them home
Most athletes think they are rockstars but in the end they are not and never will be
They should start a service where you could call a car to pick you up and take you somewhere. Call it Lift or Ubra
 
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Twice the legal limit and doing 30 mph over on residential street. Coulda killed a whole family.

said it once and will say it again. No excuses. No second chances. Kick him off the team. Until you set examples no lessons will be learned. Would say the same thing if Levis got a dui tonight.

let him come back and you’re no better than lville.

still blows my mind this stuff isn’t automatic jail time
I bet you like many of us has driven after drinking a few beers.
 
I still don’t know how it’s a DUI if someone blows a .08. That’s a push, plain and simple. If it’s .09, that’s fine, but .08 is not over the legal limit.
 
Because of his blood alcohol content, he was required to spend 4 days in jail but the court has the discretion to confine him to 4 days in home incarceration which is what took place here.

There is no question DUI is a serious offense; 10,000 people die in the United States every year from DUI drivers. Many more innocent citizens are seriously injured each year from persons’ driving while intoxicated. History is well chronicled with otherwise “good people/nice folks” who never intended to hurt anyone, having one too many drinks, then getting in their car, drunkenly thinking they could safely drive only to subequently kill or seriously injure fellow human beings.

While DUI is a serous offense, I believe in “second chances” especially for a young person in college where drinking is a normal part of the college experience. Moreover, our culture encourages drinking alcohol as part of “enjoying life”. We often celebrate by having a drink or calling up a friend you haven’t seen in a while “to have a drink”. The problem comes when you have the one drink too many where you lose the ability to make an intelligent decision about driving your car.

Most adults don’t get fired from their jobs after getting a DUI. This young man shouldn’t be kicked off the team. I will defer to the UK Administration and/or Stoop’s judgment as to what disciplinary action should be taken. I don’t believe it ought to be dismissal.
I'll say also, that I know of a number of people who got hit with a dui and their behavior changed permanently afterward. They paid a judicial punishment, and it led to modification of behavior. That's an effective use of the justice system. No need for permanent consequences to follow them.
 
I still don’t know how it’s a DUI if someone blows a .08. That’s a push, plain and simple. If it’s .09, that’s fine, but .08 is not over the legal limit.
The law explicitly states that driving with a BAC of 0.08 or higher is illegal. There is no "push."
 
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