A Little Controversy: Pat Summit Did It First
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funny, two different sports. there are 70 ncaa baseball coaches with at least 1,000 wins as well.
Quite literally irellevant. women's basketball is like men's in the 60s and 70s; the talent gap between the 3 best women's teams and the rest of division one is so astronomically high there's practically no chance of them losing on a regular basis.
Like going to the casino and betting on the house.
Like going to the casino and betting on the house.
Being historically 100% correct isn't irrelevant. To report it as Coach K being the first NCAA D1 coach to get 1,000 wins is a straight up lie. Pat Summit is on official NCAA record as the first to do it regardless of if you like it or not.
This. Pope's opinion is irrelevant to the fact that Pat Summit technically did it first. The media's ass-kissing festivities were destined to overlook the reality of factual evidence.
And because she was "technically" the first d1 coach, we should all boycott ESPN because of the Duke bias, right?
K was the first to reach 1,000 in competitive college basketball. Quit being so salty about it.
K was the first to reach 1,000 in competitive college basketball. Quit being so salty about it.
Uummmmmm........
Men's college baskrtball was no cakewalk in the 60's and 70's. Why is this myth said over and over? I'd actually argue it was harder to win a championship in 1978 than it is at its current position. The game is very watered down right now. 2010 Duke won a championship for Petes sake. And they played world beater BUTLER to win it. The game itself is not that great right now. I don't care how young and biased someone is.
Winning on a regular basis might be a little harder, because there's more games and more teams. But anyway. Not totally on topic just something I see a lot that drives me nuts.
This post was edited on 1/25 8:25 PM by .S&C.
Men's college baskrtball was no cakewalk in the 60's and 70's. Why is this myth said over and over? I'd actually argue it was harder to win a championship in 1978 than it is at its current position. The game is very watered down right now. 2010 Duke won a championship for Petes sake. And they played world beater BUTLER to win it. The game itself is not that great right now. I don't care how young and biased someone is.
Winning on a regular basis might be a little harder, because there's more games and more teams. But anyway. Not totally on topic just something I see a lot that drives me nuts.
This post was edited on 1/25 8:25 PM by .S&C.
How did you infer that from my statement? I never remotely implied that.
And I'm not being salty at all. Coach K is a helluva coach, but the media outlets got it wrong with their statements.
There should at least be a mention of pat doing it first. And I'm the last person that enjoys "political correctness".
Facts are facts. In the same way they don't mention rupps winning percentage and the fact that he didn't get 40 damn games per year to jack his winning total.
Give Rupp an extra 15 games per year against Mayflower institute and you'd have a different outcome.
Just state the real facts surrounding the milestone. ESPN will not do it.
This post was edited on 1/25 6:29 PM by .S&C.
Facts are facts. In the same way they don't mention rupps winning percentage and the fact that he didn't get 40 damn games per year to jack his winning total.
Give Rupp an extra 15 games per year against Mayflower institute and you'd have a different outcome.
Just state the real facts surrounding the milestone. ESPN will not do it.
This post was edited on 1/25 6:29 PM by .S&C.
How is it Duke's fault that KU, Syracuse and yes, UK, choked like dogs in that year's tournament? If the best 4 teams had made the Final Four it would have been great. The problem is there is way too much parity nowadays, while there was nearly none in the UCLA era of the 60s/70s.
And yes, ,UCLA had a cakewalk to the Final Four in the west region every year dude when they won the title. They were given "duke brackets" before Duke was a thing due to geography. Sadly, we have seen a return of that in recent years and UK will be given the toughest bracket this year while the west 1 seed gets a cupcake bracket (assuming the 1 seed is a legit team. If the 1 in the west is Gonzaga then the 2 seed out west is jumping for joy).
Don't know what the big deal is about K getting 1,000. Not only did Pat Summit beat him, Gene Bess accomplished that feat back in February, 2006.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2341359
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2341359
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