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My favorite PG in the class. May be the second best but Young always gives 100 percent and is a born shooter.

Trae Young ‏@TheTraeYoung 15h15 hours ago

Great visit to University of Kentucky this weekend. Thanks for welcoming me!
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Looking like UK's No. 1 PG target next year if Duval takes the Mudiay route.

Will be interesting to see if he can pull Porter in with him. Looks like Porter is trying to schedule an unofficial now. Young is not the typical Cal PG at all - more in the Tyus Jones mold of great shooter w/o elite size or athleticism.

Interesting because he looked to be a Duke lean initially, but Duke appears to be looking elsewhere.
 
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Looking like UK's No. 1 PG target next year if Duval takes the Mudiay route.

Will be interesting to see if he can pull Porter in with him. Looks like Porter is trying to schedule an unofficial now. Young is not the typical Cal PG at all - more in the Tyus Jones mold of great shooter w/o elite size or athleticism.

Interesting because he looked to be a Duke lean initially, but Duke appears to be looking elsewhere.

I get what you're saying, but I don't think there is a "typical" Cal PG anymore. The only thing they really have in common is that there are all good. But if you look, they played many different styles.

Wall and Teague were similar, with Wall obviously more talented. But Knight was more of a scorer/shooter. Andrew Harrison relied more on strength and physicality. Ulis is more of a "true" point guard who can also score a little bit.

I think Cal just looks for the PG he thinks has the "it" factor, and then works around that. Other than Ryan Harrow, he's been right every time. And even then, I'm not sure he ever expected to have to start Harrow.
 
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I would love another PG similar to Knight. Watch out, I think Murray may be shooting point guard we've had. Of course, he won't really be playing PG.
 
Think we r still very interested in him and Porter.Probably another battle between us for their services
 
Think we r still very interested in him and Porter.Probably another battle between us for their services

I think it's more likely they will be talking to Tre Jones about reclassifying to 2017 to be their PG to pair with Apple Valley teammate Trent, Jr and Wendell Carter. Seems like K gets a kid to reclassify about every other year and this one would make sense. Would help lock up Trent, Jr, who I think K wants bad.
 
I doubt he would shoot any better than Knight or Ulis.


I'd hope he could shoot better than Knight and more than Ulis. Knight only shot 37% and while that is solid, I would love to have a PG shoot 43ish% at volume. Tyler has a good percentage, he just doesn't shoot very often and I don't see that changing this season unless he has grown some or more importantly, worked on a quicker set and release. He has to be wide open to take a shot and that just doesn't lead to volume shots. Not that Young is all that much taller than Ulis but he definitely has a much quicker release which is important in getting his shot off at a smaller frame. I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you didn't already know but you may just have a different opinion.

Not even necessarily talking about Young but I'd love to have that "pure shooter" style PG that we haven't had here, in the mold of Steph Curry.
 
Here's a short Young mixtape. When I went to Nike EYBL Lexington, I wanted to check out Michael Porter and was immediately drawn to his AAU teammate Young.
 
Trae Young and Michael Porter play on the same AAU club right? Same team that Willie Cauley - Stein played on I think.
 
Trae Young and Michael Porter play on the same AAU club right? Same team that Willie Cauley - Stein played on I think.
Yep. Same Nike AAU team. Btw Kevin Durant became its sponsor recently.
 
I'd hope he could shoot better than Knight and more than Ulis. Knight only shot 37% and while that is solid, I would love to have a PG shoot 43ish% at volume. Tyler has a good percentage, he just doesn't shoot very often and I don't see that changing this season unless he has grown some or more importantly, worked on a quicker set and release. He has to be wide open to take a shot and that just doesn't lead to volume shots. Not that Young is all that much taller than Ulis but he definitely has a much quicker release which is important in getting his shot off at a smaller frame. I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you didn't already know but you may just have a different opinion.

Not even necessarily talking about Young but I'd love to have that "pure shooter" style PG that we haven't had here, in the mold of Steph Curry.

I don't care about %s- I haven't watched many better shooting PGs than Brandon Knight.
 
I don't care about %s- I haven't watched many better shooting PGs than Brandon Knight.
This makes 0 sense.

I'm sorry, but if you miss a lot of shots, it reflects on you as a shooter. Hey, in 2001, Antoine Walker made more 3 pointers than Ray Allen. Did that make him a better shooter? Only if you ignore the fact that he took 136 more shots to get 19 more makes.

Brandon Knight was streaky good, but streaky implies bad periods too (which he clearly had). You have to ignore almost everything else and focus only on the good stretches to conclude that Knight was or is such a great shooter.
 
This makes 0 sense.

I'm sorry, but if you miss a lot of shots, it reflects on you as a shooter. Hey, in 2001, Antoine Walker made more 3 pointers than Ray Allen. Did that make him a better shooter? Only if you ignore the fact that he took 136 more shots to get 19 more makes.

Brandon Knight was streaky good, but streaky implies bad periods too (which he clearly had). You have to ignore almost everything else and focus only on the good stretches to conclude that Knight was or is such a great shooter.

And JJ Redick- who is one of the best college shooters I've ever seen- was a career 40% shooter from 3. There are many more examples. You can't base outside shooting only on %. You have to take into account a lot of things- including big shots.

I stand by my take.
 
Don't care about percentages? That's how you tell if someone is a good shooter or not. I Don't get that post at all.
Brandon Knight was UK's top offensive player that year and opposing defenses knew that and did their best to contain him. Knight is/was a great shooter, he probably would've shot a better percentage if he'd played a second year. You're not going to find many one guards that shoot it better than Knight.
 
Brandon Knight was UK's top offensive player that year and opposing defenses knew that and did their best to contain him. Knight is/was a great shooter, he probably would've shot a better percentage if he'd played a second year. You're not going to find many one guards that shoot it better than Knight.


I didnt say he wasn't a good shooter. I think he is a good shooter, not a great shooter but a good one. He is a career 36% 3 pt shooter in the NBA, so it's not like he is tearing it up there and didn't at UK because he was the focal point of the offense. My only point was that you can't claim someone to be a great shooter who shoots 36% from 3 pt. I'm not knocking the kid at all, he is one of my favorite Cats but I can also look at the stats and be realistic. He was a good shooter while he was here but I wouldn't call him a great shooter. A great scorer, absolutely because he could do it in a variety of ways but not a great/elite shooter. That's all.
 
Brandon Knight was UK's top offensive player that year and opposing defenses knew that and did their best to contain him. Knight is/was a great shooter, he probably would've shot a better percentage if he'd played a second year. You're not going to find many one guards that shoot it better than Knight.
Well, not at UK, because Cal hasn't recruited many points who were big 3 point shooters. In the NBA? Yeah, there's a whole bunch who are better.

Some people seem to only remember the big shots that Knight hit. But the fact is, he shot 26/79 in the 2011 NCAA Tournament. It's great that he hit 2 game winners, but maybe if he hadn't been 0/7 (against Princeton) and 2/9 (against OSU) prior to those shots, then UK wouldn't have been in situations to need game winners. And the UConn game? Knight pretty much lost his head the last 5-10 minutes of that game, and was barely drawing iron with most of his shots.

I don't want to dog Knight, because he was an excellent player, but the people on here making him out to be a dead-eye shooter seem to have a different definition of that than I do. Knight was a good shooter, very good scorer (though he tended to do it by being a volume shot guy).
 
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Knight was shooting over 40 percent last year after 50 games, then it dipped after he was traded to Phoenix and had to get used to a completely different offense. I'd be surprised if he doesn't shoot over 40 several times in his career.
 
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Knight was streaky because he took a ton of difficult shots. Cal gave him the green light to do that because he had such a great arsenal of ways to create shots for himself and make them and that team didn't have a ton of options on offense outside of the 3 freshman.

Darius was improving by then but he still disappeared in big moments at times.
 
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Knight % was low because he took a lot of shots and they were not always good shots. He had to shoot for us to win. I agree with Chad on this, and if you know basketball you should too. He was a excellent shooter and I would take another PG like him in a heartbeat.

The final four game everybody was missing badly not just him.
 
My favorite PG in the class. May be the second best but Young always gives 100 percent and is a born shooter.

Trae Young ‏@TheTraeYoung 15h15 hours ago

Great visit to University of Kentucky this weekend. Thanks for welcoming me!
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Young talks about KU and UK visits.
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While his visit to Lawrence left a solid imprint in his mind on what might be expected if he were to suit up for the Jayhawks, Young stayed hot on the trail and took in Big Blue Madness this past weekend. “I loved it! The best part about it was Coach Cal. He gave me a tour of everything himself. He wanted to spend as much time with me as possible and let me know the plan he would have for me if I decided to play for him.”

“The fan support is unreal and it made it one of my favorite visits,” Young noted in regards to the Kentucky basketball program. The junior’s father backed up the statement even further. “Coach Cal spent all his time with Trae. No assistants, nothing. They talked a long time about his future.”
 
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This makes 0 sense.

I'm sorry, but if you miss a lot of shots, it reflects on you as a shooter. Hey, in 2001, Antoine Walker made more 3 pointers than Ray Allen. Did that make him a better shooter? Only if you ignore the fact that he took 136 more shots to get 19 more makes.

Brandon Knight was streaky good, but streaky implies bad periods too (which he clearly had). You have to ignore almost everything else and focus only on the good stretches to conclude that Knight was or is such a great shooter.

Knight % was low because he took a lot of shots and they were not always good shots. He had to shoot for us to win. I agree with Chad on this, and if you know basketball you should too. He was a excellent shooter and I would take another PG like him in a heartbeat.

The final four game everybody was missing badly not just him.

Exactly. Knights percentage is lower than it should be due to him taking contested 3's. His shot selection wasnt bad, per se. We needed him to take those shots with that team.
 
Exactly. Knights percentage is lower than it should be due to him taking contested 3's. His shot selection wasnt bad, per se. We needed him to take those shots with that team.
Did we? And if so, how many?

Knight missed 296 shots that year, which is more than any player in the Cal era at UK. The only guy who's close? James Young, who wasn't as good a shooter and (deservedly) had a reputation for being a chucker- which was why he drew A TON of flack from UK fans. In addition, Knight's rep for highly questionable (and high volume) shot selection has followed him into the pros. A lot of Milwaukee fans weren't heartbroken that he was traded, despite the fact that he was leading that team in scoring by a pretty large margin, for that exact reason.

Efficiency counts in basketball. It's easy to love the guy who plays hero ball, and there can be an argument about how necessary that is with certain players on certain teams. But there's also an argument about to what extent hero ball hurts a team in the long run.
 
Murray will go down as Cals best shooting pg hes had at Kentucky.

Would it even count if Murray plays most of his time at sf? It's obvious Murray will play pg in the nba, but here at UK, i don't think so. I never really cared about Knight's shooting %. If we needed a big shot, i wanted the ball in his hands and most of the time, i expected him to hit that shot. It's really hard to say Knight should have shot a better % from 3 than some other uk shooters in the past. Knight was our offense and had to take a ton of bad shots while being our real only scoring threat at guard. If you put Knight on last year's team, i think his % looks way better. I'll take a good shooter who hits shots when it matters most over a great shooter who seems to never step up when the game is on the line.
 
Knight was our offense and had to take a ton of bad shots while being our real only scoring threat at guard..
Only real scoring threat at guard? What was Doron Lamb, and his 12.3 ppg (on much, much better shooting)? Even DeAndre Liggins went for 8.6 ppg, and his shooting numbers were about the same as Knight's (slightly better, actually, overall and from 3).

Knight did carry a huge burden on offense that year, but how much of that was necessity, and how much of it was just an inherent part of what you get, good and bad, with Brandon Knight?
 
Only real scoring threat at guard? What was Doron Lamb, and his 12.3 ppg (on much, much better shooting)? Even DeAndre Liggins went for 8.6 ppg, and his shooting numbers were about the same as Knight's (slightly better, actually, overall and from 3).

Knight did carry a huge burden on offense that year, but how much of that was necessity, and how much of it was just an inherent part of what you get, good and bad, with Brandon Knight?

My bad. I'll admit when i think of Lamb, i think about his SO year and forget he was paired up with Knight. You are right about Knight. He did love to shoot the ball and never met a shot he didn't think he couldn't hit. I think he is a better shooter than his numbers say. After thinking about it some, most of it was probably his fault. He did take a bunch of bad contested shots he didn't have any business shooting. I think better shot selection would have made him look like a totally different shooter during his time at Kentucky. No one to blame but himself on that.
 
Did we? And if so, how many?

Knight missed 296 shots that year, which is more than any player in the Cal era at UK. The only guy who's close? James Young, who wasn't as good a shooter and (deservedly) had a reputation for being a chucker- which was why he drew A TON of flack from UK fans. In addition, Knight's rep for highly questionable (and high volume) shot selection has followed him into the pros. A lot of Milwaukee fans weren't heartbroken that he was traded, despite the fact that he was leading that team in scoring by a pretty large margin, for that exact reason.

Efficiency counts in basketball. It's easy to love the guy who plays hero ball, and there can be an argument about how necessary that is with certain players on certain teams. But there's also an argument about to what extent hero ball hurts a team in the long run.

Our ENTIRE offense was based around him in the pick and roll. Jorts wasnt a post scorer. Neither was TJ at the time; he still had a weird low release that got blocked way too often.

If the defense went under the screen, he had to shoot it to keep them honest. The vast majority of his attempts were off the bounce. I dont recall any spot ups, although Im sure there were a few.

I still dont see how anyone can contest he was anything but a great shooter.
 
Looking like UK's No. 1 PG target next year if Duval takes the Mudiay route.

Will be interesting to see if he can pull Porter in with him. Looks like Porter is trying to schedule an unofficial now. Young is not the typical Cal PG at all - more in the Tyus Jones mold of great shooter w/o elite size or athleticism.

Interesting because he looked to be a Duke lean initially, but Duke appears to be looking elsewhere.
That was my thought too. Young and Porter were very open over the summer about wanting to be a package. But I hadn't heard much buzz about uk with Porter. That kid may be my favorite in '17. I would LOVE to pull in that package.
 
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