2015 Kentucky Combine Measurements and Analysis
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Other notes - Humphries has short arms, low strength, but he's a lot quicker than you'd think for that size. Now get him in the weight room.
Murray, Briscoe, Mulder and Lee (!!) are all just as fast as Ulis in the running drills. Poythress numbers aren't up there, but he's not far off, either. We can destroy some teams in transition this year.
Average max vert is like 39". That's insane.
Murray, Briscoe, Mulder and Lee (!!) are all just as fast as Ulis in the running drills. Poythress numbers aren't up there, but he's not far off, either. We can destroy some teams in transition this year.
Average max vert is like 39". That's insane.
Huh. Hawkins with the highest vertical in the team. Wouldn't have guessed. Poythress had 19 reps, kid's been lifting while his leg was hurt.
From DE last year at our combine, kid is an athletic freak.
Dominique Hawkinsmay not be as highly touted as his peers when it comes to his NBA potential, but his 44.5 maximum vertical leap ranks among the very best marks in our database.
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It is pretty hard to just brush off 12 reps at 185 with 7"1' arms
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You can see that this team is very gifted.
Humphries is insanely impressive for a 17 year old KID.
Skal looks to have tons of untapped potential. He can defend, hit mid range jumpers, and score inside. He must learn the physicality of the game first.
Murray is the truth. So smooth and versatile. He may be the key player for this team.
Poythress has bulked up and looks like even more of a BEAST. I cannot wait to watch him play.
Briscoe is a bulldog and a full grown man, for only being 18. He is going to score in the lane, a lot this year.
Ullis looked GREAT, as expected.
I can't wait to watch this team develop over the course of the season.
Humphries is insanely impressive for a 17 year old KID.
Skal looks to have tons of untapped potential. He can defend, hit mid range jumpers, and score inside. He must learn the physicality of the game first.
Murray is the truth. So smooth and versatile. He may be the key player for this team.
Poythress has bulked up and looks like even more of a BEAST. I cannot wait to watch him play.
Briscoe is a bulldog and a full grown man, for only being 18. He is going to score in the lane, a lot this year.
Ullis looked GREAT, as expected.
I can't wait to watch this team develop over the course of the season.
Exactly. Particularly at his age. That's a respectable number for a sturdy built 6'4 incoming freshman, let alone a 7' raily freshman. I gotta wonder if he wasn't doing full ROM or something. Very encouraging, regardless - if his lower body is similarly strong, then it seems our "poythress as the only big who can go physical" fears might have been off base.
Isac Humphries only 6 bench reps? That's embarrassing for a 7 footer. He's got a long ways to go in the measurables, looks pretty skilled though.
Honestly, there's not a lot bench does for guys on the basketball court. When fighting for position, you'll be called for a foul every time you straighten your arms to push an opponent out of the way. Squats would be a much more important measure, but I'm no scout and this is just my opinion. Also, Kevin Durant got 0 bench reps at the NBA's combine, and he's been pretty okay at basketball.
I generally agree with that, but if a 260 lb kid can only put up 185 6 times, there's a great chance that the rest of his body is underdeveloped, as well.
I saw that they had lasers for the agility drills, but I definitely agree that the vert numbers always look suspect.
17 with a huge wingspan. What are you guys expecting? This isn't the NFL combine. Even there, plenty of players can't make 20-reps at 225 and that's for guys that are 20-22 that have been strength training for years.
Being 7 feet tall, if anything, is going to negatively affect your bench press. Generally speaking, your strongest guys are short and stocky. Low distance from the eccentric portion (barbell at it's lowest point) to concentric (barbell at it's highest point, arms stretched out) that could be up to 25% less distance. That's huge.
Not worried about Skal, at all. Humphries just needs to work on his strength training, but it's really not a big deal. If anything MKG will have to come back to start the Breakfast Club and crack the whip..
Being 7 feet tall, if anything, is going to negatively affect your bench press. Generally speaking, your strongest guys are short and stocky. Low distance from the eccentric portion (barbell at it's lowest point) to concentric (barbell at it's highest point, arms stretched out) that could be up to 25% less distance. That's huge.
Not worried about Skal, at all. Humphries just needs to work on his strength training, but it's really not a big deal. If anything MKG will have to come back to start the Breakfast Club and crack the whip..
Bench press for 7 footers is always going to be terrible. 12 isn't bad at all. Didn't KAT do like 13 last year?
I think you misinterpreted.
People are marveling that Skal is able to put up 12 because he is skinny with long arms.
People are surprised that Isaac can only put up 6 because he is bulky with short arms (for his height)
he is only 17 and looks like he never worked with weights...that is not his fault...that is on his coaches and parents
Not disagreeing with you at all, but I think you're underselling the difference in difficulty between repping 185 and 225. It's a lot.
Regardless, I think we'll see a vast improvement this time next year.
Just for comparisons sake, Dakari and Willie put up 16 and 19 last year, respectively.
I'm not disagreeing with your assertion. In the brief time I used weights, I hit a wall and further increases in weight were just fantasy. 40 lbs more? That's huge. But I just don't know how relevant that kind of strength is for college basketball. With a 30 second clock, the need for muscle diminishes and the need for speed increases. Which is great from my perspective. I became a fan of hoops largely because the players more resembled me than football players did. Whippets over bulldogs.
I'm the 5'8 guy who uses 225 reps to compensate
No, but I think it's pretty common to have a bias towards what we're naturally gifted at/built for.
But I look at all those long, bouncy gazelle athletes dunking on peoples' faces and I daydream..
Fighting for space and rebounds underneath the hoop. Otherwise not much. But it does show dedication, and coaches always love a gym rat when it comes to sports.
Big Picture= Our ENTIRE team gets scientific measurements in front of NBA scouts.
To quote Iverson, "We 'talkin bout measurements?"
This is why Cal is a genius and such a great recruiter. Think about it...
Guys on our bench like Hawkins, Humphreis, Lee, Maulder, and so on...
This recruits itself. How many D1 players (outside of projected top picks) would love to get a professional analysis done from the NBA. Talk about motivation to grab a player's attention!
You can see why Cal's players trust him.
Of course, to our rivals its because we cheat and pay them. Which is BS because a recruit knows by signing with UK you WILL get some sort of exposure and feedback from the next level.
To quote Iverson, "We 'talkin bout measurements?"
This is why Cal is a genius and such a great recruiter. Think about it...
Guys on our bench like Hawkins, Humphreis, Lee, Maulder, and so on...
This recruits itself. How many D1 players (outside of projected top picks) would love to get a professional analysis done from the NBA. Talk about motivation to grab a player's attention!
You can see why Cal's players trust him.
Of course, to our rivals its because we cheat and pay them. Which is BS because a recruit knows by signing with UK you WILL get some sort of exposure and feedback from the next level.
Hand size to me is always a good thing to have. M. Jordan had huge hands for his size. It's a rare trait. Seeing Mulders hand size is impressive. Should make him a strong dunker of the ball, great on defense, and improved shooting ability. Being able to comfortably palm a basketball as a guard is a great advantage. Again, ask Jordan.......biggest hands I've ever seen
Blessing and curse for him. Great for the action, athletic parts of the game, and bad for jump shots and most glaringly free throws. Read some where he has the same size hands as yao.
Odell Beckham Jr has hands that are bigger than Rondos. Watch ODB catch a ball if you havent had the chance because its absurd.
I'll have to check that out. Haven't quite had my fill of Odell, here in New York. Giants/Yanks/Knicks fans are usually level-headed and pretty quiet about their players, never blowing them up to unreachable heights or anything..
I think we've got a bit of overreaction to the lack of reps for Humphries. It doesn't mean much folks. It means he needs to work on his strength and conditioning, that's all. I doubt he's ever done much in the way of bench pressing. A big man's biggest asset is his legs and trunk, anyway. You don't gain position and hold position with your arms. If you do, you get called for fouls. He's 17 years old and probably didn't do much , if any, weight training until he arrived at UK. Nothing to see here. We can sure find things to nitpick, though, that much is sure. Welcome to BBN Isaac. Ha! 
The big Aussie kid is going to be a force for our cats in the future. I wasn't expecting a kid(17 year is a kid) to look as good at such a young age while being so big. He's a 7fter that will be starting for a NBA team in four years. I never would have guessed the kid had that good of shooting skills. Huge get for Cal and has at least 2 years with him. Future beast!
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