2 more coaches fired already

[gamecockcat]

Crist at Wisconsin
Dorrell at Colorado

Man, ADs aren't as patient as they once were.

There was an article about CO's football program and how far it's fallen, how revenue and fan support has decreased dramatically, etc. They're talking about going all in on this hire but I'm not sure it's not going to be good money after bad. If they end up in the WAC, TV revenues will definitely take a big hit.

 

[KMKAT]

No way the SEC makes it through the year unscathed without any coach losses.

 

[TucsonCat]

Best thing to ever happen to Kentucky was firing Bill Curry at 1-6.
We won 3 straight after that. Thank goodness he didn't do that at 1-5.
That could've opened the door to bringing him back one more year.
Ads are getting smarter and not letting bad coaches get momentum and the correct decision get harder.

 

[sambowieshin]

It's a fine line between hair trigger firings based soley on w's and allowing a coach time to implement his program and recruit needed parts.
Kentucky did it right.

 

[ok-cats-computer]

The firing of Wisconsin's coach seems harsh just looking at his overall record. I don't follow Wisconsin, so maybe there is some off the field stuff contributing to his dismissal. However, just looking at his overall record at the program it seemed like he was doing reasonably well. It's not like Wisconsin is a traditional power.

 

[StubbornPenny]

Colorado I get. They’re stuck in a dying PAC 12, with an odd spot geographically, and are clinging to a 30 year old title as the only thing that makes them more attractive than popcorn state. If they dont make a big splash now, they’ll be left behind in some pointless conference, never to be seen again.

Wisconsin makes much less sense. They’re guaranteed a spot at the big table, and have a had success - not title level, but upper end of the conference. Must be some some serious AD/coach friction, lost the players, or they have someone in mind

 

[vhcat70]

The firing of Wisconsin's coach seems harsh just looking at his overall record. I don't follow Wisconsin, so maybe there is some off the field stuff contributing to his dismissal. However, just looking at his overall record at the program it seemed like he was doing reasonably well. It's not like Wisconsin is a traditional power.

Their recent recruiting has been poor.

 

[ukalum1988]

Best thing to ever happen to Kentucky was firing Bill Curry at 1-6.
We won 3 straight after that. Thank goodness he didn't do that at 1-5.
That could've opened the door to bringing him back one more year.
Ads are getting smarter and not letting bad coaches get momentum and the correct decision get harder.

Generally agree, but I always thought Curry should have been canned after the 1994 1-10 debacle.

 

[bbncal02]

Best thing to ever happen to Kentucky was firing Bill Curry at 1-6.
We won 3 straight after that. Thank goodness he didn't do that at 1-5.
That could've opened the door to bringing him back one more year.
Ads are getting smarter and not letting bad coaches get momentum and the correct decision get harder.

Whisky’s AD is a moron. That was a perfect example of an alum running the program pretty damn well. No off the field issues and every one of the folks seemed to say Chryst was a person of integrity and honor.

They now owe him 16.4 million. Firing a coach with a 6-1 bowl record (2-1 NY6 bowls) and SIXTY SEVEN wins.

I hope it bites them in the ass like it did Nebraska. The B1G has and the Midwest have become delusional. Absolutely delusional.

 

[lazydave841]

The current theories I'm seeing about Chryst:

1. Teams are asking for permission to speak to Jim Leonhard, their DC. They don't want to lose him. Use the 2-3 start as the reason to make the move.

2. Lance Leipold is 5-0 at Kansas and likely to be a candidate for many jobs and big money. He's a Wisconsin guy (6 D3 titles at Wisconsin-Whitewater) and perhaps they go after him.

3. Something extra has happened. No news has broke on it, but how does the AD give Chryst an extension 245 days ago saying he's the future of the program then 180 and say getting rid of him is? They've negotiated a lower buyout than the contract stated $16 million according to the AD.

It's iffy.

 

[bbncal02]

Their recent recruiting has been poor.

Because he’s recruiting against Meeechigan, meeechigan st, and tOSU. Not exactly easy. And he’s been doing well considering.

Hope Whisky tanks. They deserve it.

 

[bbncal02]

The current theories I'm seeing about Chryst:

1. Teams are asking for permission to speak to Jim Leonhard, their DC. They don't want to lose him. Use the 2-3 start as the reason to make the move.

2. Lance Leipold is 5-0 at Kansas and likely to be a candidate for many jobs and big money. He's a Wisconsin guy (6 D3 titles at Wisconsin-Whitewater) and perhaps they go after him.

3. Something extra has happened. No news has broke on it, but how does the AD give Chryst an extension 245 days ago saying he's the future of the program then 180 and say getting rid of him is? They've negotiated a lower buyout than the contract stated $16 million according to the AD.

It's iffy.

Sounds like they’re stabbing an alumnus in the back. Pretty crappy tbh. It’s not like Chryst is a sub par coach. Dude has a .720 win percentage in an arguably decent conference. Especially the upper end.

Firing your HC to keep your DC seems risky. Every new candidate better take a close glance before taking that job. Even winning won’t keep you there.

 

[RDF922]

Sounds like they’re stabbing an alumnus in the back. Pretty crappy tbh. It’s not like Chryst is a sub par coach. Dude has a .720 win percentage in an arguably decent conference. Especially the upper end.

Firing your HC to keep your DC seems risky. Every new candidate better take a close glance before taking that job. Even winning won’t keep you there.

Lance Leopold’s job to turn down.

He’s a helluva coach and will do well there BUT not likely any better than Chryst!

 

[bbncal02]

Lance Leopold’s job to turn down.

He’s a helluva coach and will do well there BUT not likely any better than Chryst!

They’ll fire him when he gets 66 wins. Lol.

 

[m080470]

There has to got to be something more to the Chryst firing. He was 72-18, a Wisconsin alum, born and raised in Madison. I don't know much about Wisconsin football and I have no idea what type of coach he is but you don't treat people like that because of a slow start or even a personality conflict. And if you do the program deserves every bad thing that happens to it and should go into oblivion.
If there's more to the story of something really ugly going on that the public is not aware of yet, then the university needs to have some sort of a statement that they are looking into things and after meeting with Chryst it is best to cut bait now. But the statement by the AD about meeting with the morning following the Illinois loss about the direction of the program and deciding to make a change seems it's all about being 2-3 and losing to the Big 10 doormat. Pretty disgusting.

 

[bthaunert]

Lance Leopold’s job to turn down.

He’s a helluva coach and will do well there BUT not likely any better than Chryst!

Agree. With Chryst, he was most likely going to finish this season unranked for the 4th time in 5 years. Leopald is going to be a big time name in the off-season and he crushed it at Wisconson-Whitewater (6 national championships in 8 years) before heading to Buffalo and now Kansas doing the same.

 

[JHB4UK]

Wisconsin was looking for a reason to promote Jim Leonhard. Like Dabo, if he is decent the rest of the season he gets hired as permanent HC. He's a hot name that NFL teams begged to hire as DC

Reality of CFB in 2022:
1) contract buyouts are meaningless, none are too big for a P5 school
2) no struggling coach makes it to Thanksgiving, the Dec signing period means everyone needs to fire early & do hiring process to be completed Dec 1

 

[bigbluedon]

Whisky’s AD is a moron. That was a perfect example of an alum running the program pretty damn well. No off the field issues and every one of the folks seemed to say Chryst was a person of integrity and honor.

They now owe him 16.4 million. Firing a coach with a 6-1 bowl record (2-1 NY6 bowls) and SIXTY SEVEN wins.

I hope it bites them in the ass like it did Nebraska. The B1G has and the Midwest have become delusional. Absolutely delusional.

That is crazy.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

The current theories I'm seeing about Chryst:

1. Teams are asking for permission to speak to Jim Leonhard, their DC. They don't want to lose him. Use the 2-3 start as the reason to make the move.

2. Lance Leipold is 5-0 at Kansas and likely to be a candidate for many jobs and big money. He's a Wisconsin guy (6 D3 titles at Wisconsin-Whitewater) and perhaps they go after him.

3. Something extra has happened. No news has broke on it, but how does the AD give Chryst an extension 245 days ago saying he's the future of the program then 180 and say getting rid of him is? They've negotiated a lower buyout than the contract stated $16 million according to the AD.

It's iffy.

Gotta be some combination. No way they just up and fire this guy right now solely for performance. No way.

 

[gossie21]

I hope situations like these keep Stoops here long-term. Kentucky is a perfect fit for him and the program. He has enough goodwill equity built up that he knows he won't be fired if he starts a season 2-3. And we know how bad this program can get without a competent coach in place.

 

[catinvegas61]

Lance Leopold’s job to turn down.

He’s a helluva coach and will do well there BUT not likely any better than Chryst!

Not so fast. A good friend from WI tells me that it's Jim Leonard's to lose. Depends how he does as interim coach. He is an ex Badger player and was promoted from Defensive coach.
He is well liked and respected by the current
players and alumni.
He seems like a go get em kind of guy.
Very tough minded and aggressive mentality.
Their schedule is winnable, no OH ST or MI.
And the Big10 west is down overall this year.
I do like Leopold as well, but Leonard is a
WI guy thru and thru.
As far as CO coaching goes is anybodys
guess. They have been in freefall for a few years.
It will be interesting to see what happens to CO
If or when UCLA and USC leave the PAC 12.

 

[ca4ukinwa]

Auburn's coach done, first bullet in SEC and I'm not a gambling man but i'd put money on that!

I don't agree with Wisconsin decision, that seems really poor judgement IMO I don't care how "good" they think the DC is.

 

[mrschwump]

Would guess Colorado will go all in on Eric Biennamy(Sp), NFL OC and Colorado alum.

 

[catinvegas61]

Would guess Colorado will go all in on Eric Biennamy(Sp), NFL OC and former Colorado alum.

That would be a homerun hire in my opinion.
Unless he just wants to wait for an NFL
coaches position.

 

[bthaunert]

That would be a homerun hire in my opinion.
Unless he just wants to wait for an NFL
coaches position.

He’s already turned the job down once after Mel Tucker left. Not sure he wants to take that step back in his career.

 

[jlkirk]

Not so fast. A good friend from WI tells me that it's Jim Leonard's to lose. Depends how he does as interim coach. He is an ex Badger player and was promoted from Defensive coach.
He is well liked and respected by the current
players and alumni.
He seems like a go get em kind of guy.
Very tough minded and aggressive mentality.
Their schedule is winnable, no OH ST or MI.
And the Big10 west is down overall this year.
I do like Leopold as well, but Leonard is a
WI guy thru and thru.
As far as CO coaching goes is anybodys
guess. They have been in freefall for a few years.
It will be interesting to see what happens to CO
If or when UCLA and USC leave the PAC 12.

The question is: Who does Barry Alvarez want?

 

[TOMCATS1990]

Would guess Colorado will go all in on Eric Biennamy(Sp), NFL OC and former Colorado alum.

Saw a list they have him on it but a few others are Air Forces HC, UNLV‘s HC Georgia’s OC and a few others.

 

[trueblujr2]

Sounds like they’re stabbing an alumnus in the back. Pretty crappy tbh. It’s not like Chryst is a sub par coach. Dude has a .720 win percentage in an arguably decent conference. Especially the upper end.

Firing your HC to keep your DC seems risky. Every new candidate better take a close glance before taking that job. Even winning won’t keep you there.

Sounds like Chryst has a resume that will land him a decent job elsewhere. It may be at a place like Colorado or even Nebraska if they strike out on their big name guys. Probably neither of those, but a situation like those once more openings pop up.

As for the SEC, Hairsin is on the hottest seat so far, obviously, but gaining ground is Jimbo Fisher. Jimbo might want to look hard at the Nebraska or Wisconsin jobs to save face before he actually gets fired. Pull a Tubby Smith and leave before the axe falls. That's assuming Fisher actually lasts the season. I really can't think of anybody else who would be on the hot seat just yet. Some coaches are too new to their programs to be considered for it just yet. Maybe Missouri's coach?

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Would guess Colorado will go all in on Eric Biennamy(Sp), NFL OC and Colorado alum.

I'm a Chiefs fan and a MO resident. That would be an epic fail all the way around. There's a reason he hasn't gotten an NFL job yet. And if you believe what you read about him, no way his personality meshes with top tier college athletes of today.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Sounds like Chryst has a resume that will land him a decent job elsewhere. It may be at a place like Colorado or even Nebraska if they strike out on their big name guys. Probably neither of those, but a situation like those once more openings pop up.

As for the SEC, Hairsin is on the hottest seat so far, obviously, but gaining ground is Jimbo Fisher. Jimbo might want to look hard at the Nebraska or Wisconsin jobs to save face before he actually gets fired. Pull a Tubby Smith and leave before the axe falls. That's assuming Fisher actually lasts the season. I really can't think of anybody else who would be on the hot seat just yet. Some coaches are too new to their programs to be considered for it just yet. Maybe Missouri's coach?

Jimbo's buyout is $50M through 2027. He ain't going anywhere.

 

[lazydave841]

Sounds like Chryst has a resume that will land him a decent job elsewhere. It may be at a place like Colorado or even Nebraska if they strike out on their big name guys. Probably neither of those, but a situation like those once more openings pop up.

As for the SEC, Hairsin is on the hottest seat so far, obviously, but gaining ground is Jimbo Fisher. Jimbo might want to look hard at the Nebraska or Wisconsin jobs to save face before he actually gets fired. Pull a Tubby Smith and leave before the axe falls. That's assuming Fisher actually lasts the season. I really can't think of anybody else who would be on the hot seat just yet. Some coaches are too new to their programs to be considered for it just yet. Maybe Missouri's coach?

Chryst probably becomes an analyst for a year.

Harsin seems like he wasn't wanted to start with. His AD resigning before the season was another nail in his eventual coffin.

 

[mrschwump]

I'm a Chiefs fan and a MO resident. That would be an epic fail all the way around. There's a reason he hasn't gotten an NFL job yet. And if you believe what you read about him, no way his personality meshes with top tier college athletes of today.

Seems I recall the last couple of Colorado HCs wanted Bienammy on the staff and he turned them down. Of course, there could be any number of reasons why but maybe he doesn't like recruiting. If a guy is a college HC and he doesn't like recruiting he won't last long.