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1986 team

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Is that the last time we used a three-guard lineup? We had Ed Davender, Roger Harden and James Blackmon, and I believe the two inside players were Winston Bennett and Kenny Walker. That team went 32-4, by the way, beating national champion Louisville by five points and losing in the Elite Eight because we had to beat Alabama and LSU four times each. Seeding changed because of that.
 
Dang that Ricky Blanton. No offense to him cause he's deceased. That one stung big time.
 
Is that the last time we used a three-guard lineup? We had Ed Davender, Roger Harden and James Blackmon, and I believe the two inside players were Winston Bennett and Kenny Walker. That team went 32-4, by the way, beating national champion Louisville by five points and losing in the Elite Eight because we had to beat Alabama and LSU four times each. Seeding changed because of that.


Nice catch! Pretty good comparison (on paper, anyway) to our upcoming team. I don't know if that's the last time... but it sure seems like the last successful time that approach (3 G + 2 F) was used by UK.

I'm still pissed about that 4th time around with LSU. I still see images of Blanton having a near-epileptic fit while running down the court. :angry:
 
Is that the last time we used a three-guard lineup? We had Ed Davender, Roger Harden and James Blackmon, and I believe the two inside players were Winston Bennett and Kenny Walker. That team went 32-4, by the way, beating national champion Louisville by five points and losing in the Elite Eight because we had to beat Alabama and LSU four times each. Seeding changed because of that.


If Poy can bring one half of Bennett's fire he would be awesome.

That 86 team would most likely beat this year's squad.
 
Reason we went with that lineup is because Rob Lock was our only center. I can still hear Eddie Sutton saying on TV "we're still high on Rob".....
 
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Nice catch! Pretty good comparison (on paper, anyway) to our upcoming team. I don't know if that's the last time... but it sure seems like the last successful time that approach (3 G + 2 F) was used by UK.

I'm still pissed about that 4th time around with LSU. I still see images of Blanton having a near-epileptic fit while running down the court. :angry:

And I was so happy when they beat Georgia Tech the game before us.
 
He died???
He ain't dead
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After a stellar basketball career at LSU from 1985-1989, Ricky continued his basketball career as a professional player in the NBA, Europe, and South America. The 1986 LSU Basketball team that Ricky was a part of is one of the legendary stories in the history of LSU Basketball. Ricky was an integral part of the Final Four team that defeated the #1, #2, and #3 seeds as they captured the March Madness audience as a true underdog. He was a First Team All-SEC performer his junior and senior year, as well as two-time Team Captain for the LSU Basketball Team. Ricky's seven-year professional basketball career was one that provided great opportunity to expand his career around the world. The highlight of his professional career was an opportunity to be a part of the Chicago Bulls and play with Michael Jordan.

When Ricky retired from playing, he went on to coach as an assistant at LSU and Utah State. Next, he went on to coach children and teens with private lessons and basketball camps. He then became the Head Basketball Coach at Nicholls State University 2002-2004.

Ricky’s transition into insurance in 2004 was a very natural one. He was an educator as a coach and views himself as an educator in the insurance industry. One of the biggest responsibilities he has is to educate his clients on what their insurance policy covers. Ricky is committed to providing the most up to date information to his clients and prospects in....
 
Actually, the 1996 team played with 3 guards quite a bit:

Epps
Delk
Anderson
Sheppard (at times)
Edwards (at times)

The 1997 team also played with 3 guards a great deal of the time:

Epps
Mills (at times)
Anderson (for the first half of the season)
Turner
Edwards (at times)

The 1998 team also played with 3 guards a fair amount:

Turner
Sheppard
Mills (at times)
Edwards (at times)
 
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One could certainly make the case that the 2003 team played essentially a three guard offense with Hawkins, Fitch and Bogans. Bogans was listed as a guard in the official roster, and was somewhere between an SG and a SF. That was a damn strong team that has some superficial similarities to 2015.

I still believe if Bogans doesn't twist that ankle we would never have heard of Tom Crean ever.
 
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We have used 3 guards a lot and used 3 last year a lot. Nobody remembers having the twins and Ulis on the floor? Booker is no small forward he is a SG.
Murray is 6'5" so he is around the same size the twins and Booker.....but, but I believe he is a much better player. Fits the dribble drive very well. He's going to clean up along with Briscoe.
 
We have used 3 guards a lot and used 3 last year a lot. Nobody remembers having the twins and Ulis on the floor? Booker is no small forward he is a SG.
Murray is 6'5" so he is around the same size the twins and Booker.....but, but I believe he is a much better player. Fits the dribble drive very well. He's going to clean up along with Briscoe.

Very true. I just think the 3 we have this coming season as a core are better than any of the combos from last year.
 
That's one of Rupp Rafters' classic debates. I've always been in the camp that felt the 2003 team had overachieved a bit, and that even with a healthy Bogans that the Dwayne Wade--Robert Jackson--Steve Novak--Travis Diener was a bad match-up for them. I can still get nauseated thinking of Jackson manhandling the Cats inside. And if Novak and Diener were hitting from outside, there was no way just to pack a defense to stop Wade.

If anything, it took a knuckle head like Crean to have that team get smashed by Kansas in the Final Four.

I'm with you on this. Bogan's still had 15 in that game. The myth on here is that he would have slowed down Wade if he had been 100%...probably some...but enough? And how would Bogans have stopped Novak, Jackson and Diener? Could he have guarded all 4 at once? I always wonder that. I also wonder why people assume that team would have beat KU and Syracuse...always tossed around as a given on here which I find comical. Much like this past year against Duke is a given to some (I disagree), much like winning it all in 2010 was a given if we beat WVU (I tend to agree, but anything could have happened against Duke/Butler), and if we had beat UCONN in 2011 we beat Butler (I 100% agree with that one). It's an opinion though...no one really knows.
 
I'm with you on this. Bogan's still had 15 in that game. The myth on here is that he would have slowed down Wade if he had been 100%...probably some...but enough? And how would Bogans have stopped Novak, Jackson and Diener? Could he have guarded all 4 at once? I always wonder that. I also wonder why people assume that team would have beat KU and Syracuse...always tossed around as a given on here which I find comical. Much like this past year against Duke is a given to some (I disagree), much like winning it all in 2010 was a given if we beat WVU (I tend to agree, but anything could have happened against Duke/Butler), and if we had beat UCONN in 2011 we beat Butler (I 100% agree with that one). It's an opinion though...no one really knows.

That was my angle too. Bogans had become a pretty good on the ball defender and with his ankle, he couldn't stay up.
 
We've used a 3 guard lineup quite a bit, if you want to really think about it.

What is different this season is that it's a three PG(for lack of a better description) lineup in that all three can run the offense.

In the past, we have had two ballhandlers and a wing, or a ballhandler and two wings.

I don't think we have ever had three elite ballhandlers on the same floor like we will have next season.
 
Duke loves to run 3 guys at once who can shoot and or initiate the offense if the get the outlet pass. Any of the 3 can play switch up during play. I have played in styles like this and it is very fun to do. As the game stays fresh with you having to go to different spots on the floor and you can attack at different angles.
It's mostly an old school style that was used 30-40 yrs ago. Duke has done very well with it.

As far as '03 goes it doesn't matter if we had a healthy Bogans with 5 good ankles we were not beating them. It wasn't Wade that beat us. I watched that game at least 7 times watching everything and the key to the game was their big transfer center Jackson. He absolutely dominated Estill down low and Estill just backed away and did not show up what so ever. That guy had something like 27/15 for the game. He destroyed us on the inside. By him dominating the inside it opened up the outside for Novak who had 17 I think. Wade just hit the open spots in our ball line D and was able to get the ball and create for himself and others. We got down by over 20. No way was that on one player but the whole team. We played bad the game before that and were able to pull out the W in the 2nd half. If we played KU we would have gotten killed. But at least we would have made the FF.

Bogans was still good enough to score 15 which was only slightly below his average.
When Bogans was healthy in the nba did he stop Wade??? Nope I don't think so.
 
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It wasn't Wade that best us. I watched that game at least 7 times watching everything and the key to the game was their big transfer center Jackson. He absolutely dominated Estill down low and Estill just backed away and did not show up what so ever. That guy had something like 27/15 for the game. Be destroyed us on the inside. .

Bingo. How much could Dwyane Wade have to do with Jackson going for 24/15?

That 02-03 team was another of many examples where a team went on a long, long winning streak that eventually seemed to wear them down. They struggled in the SEC final, they didn't look particularly great in any of the 1st 3 NCAA games. The Marquette game had a lot of similarities to the Notre Dame game from this year. Someone came out and just relentlessly attacked a UK team that had been great on defense all year, and the UK team didn't seem to know how to handle it. The difference is that UK 14-15 had too much talent to fall behind by 20, and was able to recover from a lot of gut punches. 02-03 did not have that edge, especially not when Marquette had the best player on the floor.
 
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