13th RPI, 11th Sagarin, 9 Kenpom

[Aike]

Someone tell me again why we can't be a 3 or even a 2 seed.

That's the profile TODAY of a 3 seed or an incredibly strong 4.

Winning cures everything.

 

[caneintally]

We will be a 2 seed IMO .

 

[kyjeff1]

I hope the committee tries to screw us over again like they did in 2014. We had the reseme of a 4 seed and they gave us an 8. They put us in the bracket of doom too. It ended up screwing everyone else in that bracket.
Maybe they learned their lesson. I hope we get a 2 or 3 but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

 

[kybassfan]

I look at those numbers and really can't draw a conclusion about where we'll end up. I think the obvious answer is there is no answer. If we keep keep winning and the right teams drop some games, our seed could be very good. If we backslide and drop out early in the SEC tournament, an 8 is still a real possibility. Way to early to speculate.

 

[irishcat1965]

I assume we will beat the hell out of UT. It sets up the Texas A&M game next Saturday as a must win to have a chance at a 2 seed.

 

[dynastydreamuk]

anybody ever look at Espn's BPI.... we are much lower on it, and somehow UNC is the number 1 go figure and DUKE is ranked 6th .... it sure does seem like ESPN and their tobacco road favoritism even came into play with their statistical rankings....

still waiting for UNC to get the death penalty ..

 

[Aike]

anybody ever look at Espn's BPI.... we are much lower on it, and somehow UNC is the number 1 go figure and DUKE is ranked 6th .... it sure does seem like ESPN and their tobacco road favoritism even came into play with their statistical rankings....

still waiting for UNC to get the death penalty ..

It's weird this year. I know they account for injuries, so maybe UNC isn't getting counted when Paige was out? Maybe Duke is getting a pass without Jefferson?

If that's the case, what does the Poythress injury do to us? We've been playing much better since he went out, but we've only moved up a couple spots in BPI. Are they discounting the games without him?

That being said, I doubt they account for the games when Ulis played with one arm. Seems like in an effort to get it right, that might gotten it more wrong than ever.

 

[Aike]

I look at those numbers and really can't draw a conclusion about where we'll end up. I think the obvious answer is there is no answer. If we keep keep winning and the right teams drop some games, our seed could be very good. If we backslide and drop out early in the SEC tournament, an 8 is still a real possibility. Way to early to speculate.

Of course you can't draw a conclusion about where we'll end up. No one knows what anyone will do for the next month.

What you can see, clearly, is that we have the resume of a 3 seed today. That being the case, we should control our own destiny to a large degree.

 

[Blue Decade]

Someone tell me again why we can't be a 3 or even a 2 seed.

That's the profile TODAY of a 3 seed or an incredibly strong 4.

Winning cures everything.

A #3 is probably the ceiling. NCAAT seeds are awarded on the full body of work during the season. We have already lost to 5 unranked teams. The chance for a #1 or a #2 went out the window weeks ago.

 

[Aike]

A #3 is probably the ceiling. NCAAT seeds are awarded on the full body of work during the season. We have already lost to 5 unranked teams. The chance for a #1 or a #2 went out the window weeks ago.

I see you repeating that, but I believe you are completely wrong. Hard to see 8 teams with a better resume than us if we win out.

Of course it becomes a moot point if we don't win out. I think a 2 with only one more loss is a slim possibility, but the sledding gets much tougher with each additional loss.

Your "5 unranked teams" argument makes the simplistic mistake of viewing everything in a vacuum. Every other team lost a bunch of games too, and we still have plenty to play.

 

[Xception]

1st Xception

 

[ymmot31]

Here is a mock bracket that was completed by some media members who were invited to Indy to see how the seeding process works. I think this was within the last week. They have us a 5 seed in the East region. Looks like only 4 SEC teams.

Here is the story.

 

[FishersBlue]

Hell Kansas may end up with 1-2 more losses and still get a 1 OVERALL seed. 1 seeds will have 5-6 losses it appears. Theres a lot of parity, mediocrity, balance or whatever you want to call it in the top 30. No reason the Cats cant get a 2-3 seed. Little room for error, but we may be starting to peak at the right time.

 

[.S&C.]

We will finish with between a 3 and 6 seed. It's completely bullshit, as I believe we should be able to play into a one, but UK is held to a different standard. We aren't allowed rope like a Kansas or a Duke.

I still believe Duke could play their way to a one. I believe Kansas could have the same losses as us And be a 1. We're just held to an insane standard. Don't lose.

 

[FishersBlue]

What happens if KY is 28-6 heading into the NCAA tourney?

 

[Blue Decade]

I see you repeating that, but I believe you are completely wrong. Hard to see 8 teams with a better resume than us if we win out.

Your "5 unranked teams" argument makes the simplistic mistake of viewing everything in a vacuum. .

I wish you were right, but unfortunately you probably aren't. The 5 losses to unranked teams is not a simplistic argument at all. It is the way the selection committee assesses the season. They look at the full body of work during the whole season. Many fans are on an adrenaline high now because we are winning. A few weeks ago, this board was depressing. If you have a hard time seeing 8 teams with better resumes, that means you are blinded by a couple of blowouts over Florida, Georgia, South Carolina. You might have forgotten what happened before that, but the selection committee will not. It is actually easy to see 8 teams with better NCAAT resumes. But we don't need to debate this. All we have to do is wait a couple weeks.

 

[kybassfan]

Of course you can't draw a conclusion about where we'll end up. No one knows what anyone will do for the next month.

What you can see, clearly, is that we have the resume of a 3 seed today. That being the case, we should control our own destiny to a large degree.

Well, maybe a 4 or 5 seed. I'll give you a three based on those three inputs. To me, it's more like we just came up on the fourth lap of a four lap race. A lot can happen in that last lap. Best to run like hell and sort it out at the finish line.

 

[GOING FOR #9]

What happens if KY is 28-6 heading into the NCAA tourney?

We are 1 seed if that happens

 

[gamalielkid]

What happens if KY is 28-6 heading into the NCAA tourney?

This year - we could be a one seed. That will mean that we have won 10+ games in a row and won both the SEC regular season and SEC tourney. How many teams will have less than 6 losses when the tourney starts and also hold both of their conference championships?

Go Big Blue!

 

[bucsrule8872]

Our losses to unranked teams will keep us from a 2 seed or higher, IMHO.

I agree with BlueDecade, 3 seed is the ceiling. That's winning out with an SEC tourney title.

I think we will lose two more on the road, then drop the SEC title game because of fatigue (short handed up front and 3 games in 3 days). That puts us at a 4 or 5 seed, most likely.

If we drop all 3 remaining road games and lose in the SEC tourney, then we could fall to a 6 or 7. I would be sweating with 10 losses in a normal year, but with the state of college bball this year, we are in good shape even with double digit losses. There's probably going to be several double digit loss teams in the 6-13 seed range.

 

[Aike]

I wish you were right, but unfortunately you probably aren't. The 5 losses to unranked teams is not a simplistic argument at all. It is the way the selection committee assesses the season. They look at the full body of work during the whole season. Many fans are on an adrenaline high now because we are winning. A few weeks ago, this board was depressing. If you have a hard time seeing 8 teams with better resumes, that means you are blinded by a couple of blowouts over Florida, Georgia, South Carolina. You might have forgotten what happened before that, but the selection committee will not. It is actually easy to see 8 teams with better NCAAT resumes. But we don't need to debate this. All we have to do is wait a couple weeks.

Here's one example of why you're wrong...

Oregon has 6 losses to unranked teams. They were a 2 seed in that mock draft done last week. By your logic, that should be impossible.

I'll grant you that who we lost to will be one factor in determining our seed. But it's only part of the story. Who we beat, RPI, winning our conference - these count too.

And your statement that all we need to do is wait a couple of weeks is silly. This entire argument is about our ceiling, not a prediction of where we will end up.

The only way we will know if you were right or not in a couple weeks is if we actually run the table. Because our ceiling would be the seed we could obtain if we win all remaining games.

My contention is that if we do that, standing on selection Sunday as SEC champ, SEC tourney champ, as well as all the metrics that would accompany such a win streak, we would be a 2 at worst.

For us to win out and not be a 2, some other teams would have to do some extraordinary things to separate themselves. Considering how many of those teams will have to play each other, that will be difficult, if not impossible.

 

[Untouchables22]

Just think if we had 1 capable big? I'm hoping Ullis goes all "Kemba Walker" in the tournament for us.

 

[Montana81]

Jerry Palm has us as a 5 in the south with Kansas as our 1 if the brackets were picked today.

Basketball predictions, has us getting a 3 also in the south with Kansas as the 1. but that's a projection of what he thinks the actual final brackets will look like.

I'm fine with any top 5 seed in the south. Would rather have a different 1 seed than Kansas though. I think we can beat them on any neutral court tbh. I'd rather UNC be our 1 if we actually get to play in Louisville.

 

[Aike]

For the first time in a long time, I'm a little more nervous about the first two rounds. How will our fans travel to Denver or Spokane, for example?

I will feel a lot better if we can sneak into St. Louis. Might take a top 3 seed to get that done.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

anybody ever look at Espn's BPI.... we are much lower on it, and somehow UNC is the number 1 go figure and DUKE is ranked 6th .... it sure does seem like ESPN and their tobacco road favoritism even came into play with their statistical rankings....

still waiting for UNC to get the death penalty ..

Pretty sure ESPN's BPI isn't a factor in seeding.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Jerry Palm has us as a 5 in the south with Kansas as our 1 if the brackets were picked today.

Basketball predictions, has us getting a 3 also in the south with Kansas as the 1. but that's a projection of what he thinks the actual final brackets will look like.

I'm fine with any top 5 seed in the south. Would rather have a different 1 seed than Kansas though. I think we can beat them on any neutral court tbh. I'd rather UNC be our 1 if we actually get to play in Louisville.

Palm is also a proven idiot.