Teams that rely on bombing threes all game can make games close in no time and you’ll lose some of those. But it’s a fickle plan, we’ve beat some teams that do that in MSU and Auburn. I don’t see a problem as the most difficult team to guard is one bombing from three.
Very good win but.....
- Thread starter Trey_G
- Start date
I think the issue is that people tend to forget there's another team out there trying to win.
I mean we are going into a game where Vegas says we are 3 points better than they are on their court and we find ourselves up 15 at the half.
Of course they were going to mount a comeback. They got embarrassed in that first half in front of their home crowd.
What impresses me is they came all the way back, cut it to 1.......and we responded.
Just the way it goes alot of times on the road. Really hard to put the home team away when they're a pretty good team. I see your point though, just trying to be positive.
Come on BBN enjoy the win. These kids find a way to win. Sorry if you wanted a loss so you could post your negative venom today.
We blew an 18 point lead (not debateable) what are you looking at? We responded well after they cut the lead to 3 but ideally you never want a comfortable 2nd half lead cut that close.
It happens. Glad we were able to hold them off. SEC road wins against good teams aren't easy to come by, and I think clearly this team has the right attitude about things. Nothing to see here.
A
anon_q409idbs5m40a
Guest
Don't forget the 1978 team. We were up by 15-16 at halftime and had to hold on. Ending up winning by ten but it was a lot closer than that in the second half.
A
anon_q409idbs5m40a
Guest
I think it was in 1981 or '82 when we were ranked in the Top Five and lost down there to a Mississippi State team that had won about 5-6 games all season.
Exactly, State had just let one get away at home their last game. You had to know they were going to play desperate and give us their best shot and they did in the second half. Not saying we played great, but it's a win on the road in a hostile environment against a top 30 team when we weren't at our best.
Ill take the close win going into the home game against LSU. That will get then focused. Or it should anyway..
Yep lol . If there is one thing we have it is killer instinct. MSU is a just a real good team we played on the road it happens. But we won and that is what matters.
The way MSU played in the 2nd half, that's the kind of intensity we will see in the tournament. Good experience for our guys.
Responded pretty well late in the game.
A win on the road is always big.
Responded pretty well late in the game.
A win on the road is always big.
The mere fact that we had 18 point leads at Miss St and at Auburn shows just how good this team is to begin with.
I like the fact that this team was good enough to build an 18 point lead on the road against a good team. I also like the fact that this team is tough enough to stave off a good Miss State team run after an 18 point lead was cut to 1, the crowd fired up, all the momentum against them on the road. It is toughness like that needed in the tournament in crunch time.
Did you watch the game......? It wasn't that UK let up.......MSU came out and started playing much better defense. Then their shooter got going....no surprise at home......in my mind this was a great win.....
Ideally? This is a team that is growing before our eyes.....ideally they all peak at the same time and win the last six games of the year.......to expect them to play a perfect game this time of the season is .....unreasonable......They are learning man........
They went up on Kentucky by 10, playing out of there minds.. Arnett Moultree was dominating Davis and Jones both down low, then Rodney Hood suffered that freak broke leg for State and that just seemed to kill them, never could get momentum back afterward..
Ever UK coach since the beginning of the game has had this problem. Moreover, It is a lamentation that attaches to every coach whose team has blown a huge lead. These guys ain’t robots.
“This team may be Cal proof?” Even in a win, the haters can’t hold back.
Their defense and the three point line got them back in the game in the second half. They were 0-4 in the first half and 7-12 in the second half.
That’s not being a “hater.” I give Cal all the credit in the world for getting this team to buy in defensively. What we looked like in Nov and Dec are night and day from where we are today. But Cal is not perfect. One of his biggest faults is stall ball when he has big leads. On the road and in the tournament. And it has cost him. He did it in the title game in ‘12 but that team made plays down the stretch and overcame it. I will never forget the block by MKG that if he doesn’t make, may have changed the outcome of the game. I see similarities with this squad. They make the plays they need to when teams make a run to bend but not break.
Last edited:
A
anon_q409idbs5m40a
Guest
And they actually ended up shooting a better percentage than we did from the three, although the numbers made were even. We let them get back in the game with missed FT's and turnovers, plus they started making shots they didn't in the first half.
A
anon_q409idbs5m40a
Guest
Wish I had a nickel for every time I've seen this scenario in watching for over 50 years. I've seen dozens of times where we raced out to big leads on another team's home court only to hold on at the end.
Yes! When you are on the road in SEC anything can and does happen.
Dunno if I agree. As I just mentioned, other than their steals, I think we had no more than maybe 2-3 TOs all game. Impressive imo...
Gonna watch it again tpday.
A key turning point in my opinion was when RT lost the rebound to a MSU player in the second half with us up 18, resulting in a quick MSU three. We had the ball with a chance to go up 20, but that play started the run.
And we maybe TOd twice during thier comeback + 90% of our overall TOs were from steals,
Last edited:
Always good to get a road win, as we see across the country, it's damn hard and so many factors to deal with that make it difficult. Realize there were a few poor calls but I've actually thought the SEC officiating has been improved this year--in that you see them letting guys play. No way in hell in the past does that hoop PJ Washington scored with Cats up 1 against a horrific flop NOT get called. I was stunned they didn't blow the whistle on Keldon Johnson's blocked shot late as well--he didn't foul but on the road expecting that whistle.
Saying that, completely understand why Cal was on them hard after the game. The next step for this team is to dominate--and that means taking that 18 pt lead and pushing it to 26....and they did take a step back. Wish they'd really play aggressive/attack when they have a lead but reserved to fact Calipari is never going to let that happen. Thought he showed signs of allowing the offense to go in the Vandy game and while Vandy is a lesser opponent then Mississippi State, it's the style of play that carries over more then opponent. Let them attack when they are up.
Little thing I don't understand late (not just UK games)--if you are up 2 possessions, why not run people off the 3pt line? Don't care how deep-force the 2, if they hit you are up at least a possession (if 5 pt lead) or 2 (if up 6 or more) but everyone retreats, hand down and allows the 3. It's beyond frustrating to not see teams use their offensive advantage for defense.
UK related--situational wise, after Keldon blocked and secured the ball/passes to Hagans--he has to realize he had Herro next to him and get ball to him. Always want the best FT shooter on the team with ball late. Realize Hagans is a warrior and competitive and he hit the 1 shot-but pushing things to improve, little details have to become mastered and as Cal said, you lose now, got games left, lose next month, it's all over. Tighten this stuff up and this team takes a huge step.
Saying that, completely understand why Cal was on them hard after the game. The next step for this team is to dominate--and that means taking that 18 pt lead and pushing it to 26....and they did take a step back. Wish they'd really play aggressive/attack when they have a lead but reserved to fact Calipari is never going to let that happen. Thought he showed signs of allowing the offense to go in the Vandy game and while Vandy is a lesser opponent then Mississippi State, it's the style of play that carries over more then opponent. Let them attack when they are up.
Little thing I don't understand late (not just UK games)--if you are up 2 possessions, why not run people off the 3pt line? Don't care how deep-force the 2, if they hit you are up at least a possession (if 5 pt lead) or 2 (if up 6 or more) but everyone retreats, hand down and allows the 3. It's beyond frustrating to not see teams use their offensive advantage for defense.
UK related--situational wise, after Keldon blocked and secured the ball/passes to Hagans--he has to realize he had Herro next to him and get ball to him. Always want the best FT shooter on the team with ball late. Realize Hagans is a warrior and competitive and he hit the 1 shot-but pushing things to improve, little details have to become mastered and as Cal said, you lose now, got games left, lose next month, it's all over. Tighten this stuff up and this team takes a huge step.
Poor 3-point D plus TOs is a good way to get beat.
A
anon_q409idbs5m40a
Guest
We only had nine but at inopportune times, and mostly in the paint.
A
anon_q409idbs5m40a
Guest
Just saw the replay and we had four turnovers, one blocked shot and only one FG during their run. They scored either FG's or FT's on 10 of 12 possessions. All of that started when Travis lost the ball on a rebound when we were up 49-31 and they hit a three. I thought he got fouled but that's not a call we get on the road.
Just rewatched...
MSU came back in 5:30 mins approx.
15:48 to 10:18ish which included:
MSU steal
MSU Bucket +3
MSU steal off Hagans dribble in paint
No bucket
UK foul
MSU +2
UK Foul
MSU +2
UK Foul
MSU +2
UK TO (EJ)
No points
UK Bucket +2 (Herro)
MSU +3
MSU steal
No points
UK TO (Hagans walk)
No points
UK foul
MSU +2 (dunk)
MSU block/STEAL (on KJ shot)
UK foul (Hagans)
MSU +2
MSU down only 4 now.
MSU came back in 5:30 mins approx.
15:48 to 10:18ish which included:
MSU steal
MSU Bucket +3
MSU steal off Hagans dribble in paint
No bucket
UK foul
MSU +2
UK Foul
MSU +2
UK Foul
MSU +2
UK TO (EJ)
No points
UK Bucket +2 (Herro)
MSU +3
MSU steal
No points
UK TO (Hagans walk)
No points
UK foul
MSU +2 (dunk)
MSU block/STEAL (on KJ shot)
UK foul (Hagans)
MSU +2
MSU down only 4 now.
Last edited:
So they came back from:
3 MSU STEALs
5 UK FOULS
&
2 UK TOs
Rewatching, we played flat, they were tougher, wanted it more. The refs sucked.
We got control and won
'Nuff said.
3 MSU STEALs
5 UK FOULS
&
2 UK TOs
Rewatching, we played flat, they were tougher, wanted it more. The refs sucked.
We got control and won
'Nuff said.
A
anon_q409idbs5m40a
Guest
And three missed FT's; two by Montgomery and one by P.J. They also got back into the game by making their FT's. Did you count the block on KJ as a turnover? That was a big play as well?
