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How will they rule ??!

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Look, I lean left....but NOT Cali left. I'm much more of a Blue Dog Democrat.
Cali Dems are waaaay too soft on crime and creating BS taxes on anything they can think in order to pay for stupid programs that don't work.
But I'm also not a fan of the MTG style election denier Pubs that waste every minute of their day on laws that go after individual bodily autonomy and culture war issues that shouldn't be legislated.
Perfect example....

Ha, I’ve seen this girl. Latina women arent for the faint at heart. Stay far away Sambo.
 
Look, I lean left....but NOT Cali left. I'm much more of a Blue Dog Democrat.
Cali Dems are waaaay too soft on crime and creating BS taxes on anything they can think in order to pay for stupid programs that don't work.
But I'm also not a fan of the MTG style election denier Pubs that waste every minute of their day on laws that go after individual bodily autonomy and culture war issues that shouldn't be legislated.
Perfect example....
So you’re a conservative who swallowed the propaganda about Trump and now you can’t just admit it.

Come home, shinbone. Stop siding with these anti-American kooks.
 
Meanwhile, back in the real world.....


You can't make this stuff up.

Interesting that they don't give the numbers (maybe I didn't read far enough) but release the information to the public. It's almost as if the agencies in the govt want the public to be fearful and think the agencies aren't part of setting this all up when it all does finally go down. They know they're entering and do nothing. They know how many and where they've gone. They gave them phones and money, and likely that payday is ongoing.

So why tell anyone for any other reason?
 
So you’re a conservative who swallowed the propaganda about Trump and now you can’t just admit it.

Come home, shinbone. Stop siding with these anti-American kooks.
I was all on board the Trump train after he beat Hillary.
I thought most of his divisive crazy talk was just an act to get elected. He had a history of being a Dem so I thought he would be a pro business, moderate Republican.
Unfortunately for many Americans he went after the far, far right fringe instead of the moderate middle.
He just says too many crazy things and plays to the tin foil hat crowd too much for me to ever get on board again.
Jan 6th was it for me. Whether or not he is to blame for what went down that day will never change the fact he watched it and took no action for hours.
We can debate everything else about that day, but that fact remains fixed in history.
He failed his job that day.
Biden has failed his job on the border.

Wish I had someone that wasn't pushing 80, pushing past 80 or didn't have worm holes in their brain (Kennedy) to chose from.
 
I was all on board the Trump train after he beat Hillary.
I thought most of his divisive crazy talk was just an act to get elected. He had a history of being a Dem so I thought he would be a pro business, moderate Republican.
Unfortunately for many Americans he went after the far, far right fringe instead of the moderate middle.
He just says too many crazy things and plays to the tin foil hat crowd too much for me to ever get on board again.
Jan 6th was it for me. Whether or not he is to blame for what went down that day will never change the fact he watched it and took no action for hours.
We can debate everything else about that day, but that fact remains fixed in history.
He failed his job that day.
Biden has failed his job on the border.

Wish I had someone that wasn't pushing 80, pushing past 80 or didn't have worm holes in their brain to chose from.

This post is a perfect example of how far left things have shifted, and how far left these “moderates” are.

Trump was pretty much a pro business moderate until Covid when he took a hard left turn.

It’s almost like the DNC replaced the employee running sambowieshin’s account and he’s completely unaware of all the lunacy that’s been posted over the years by the account.

Pretending January 6 is what sent the TDS over the edge lol.
 
So it's not about Hamas, your solution is kill all the Palestinians. Genocide. And you wonder why there are protestors.
Some folks just can't keep their mouths shut.

 
This post is a perfect example of how far left things have shifted, and how far left these “moderates” are.

Trump was pretty much a pro business moderate until Covid when he took a hard left turn.

It’s almost like the DNC replaced the employee running sambowieshin’s account and he’s completely unaware of all the lunacy that’s been posted over the years by the account.

Pretending January 6 is what sent the TDS over the edge lol.
No doubt I wasn't a fan of his Un Presidential behavior prior to Jan 6th. But as bad as Biden is I would have considered voting for Trump now if not for Jan 6th. That inaction and non response disqualified him from ever holding the office again in my opinion.
As the Chief Executive....his job is to carry out the laws of the land.....not trash them.
He chose personal political grievance over the Constitution that day as well as asking Pence to disregard the Constitution on a procedural process this country has carried off without a hitch for our entire history.
Those actions/inactions go way beyond traditional policy disputes like the border...(which Biden is too dense to see is an issue he could seize on in a heart beat even though I would prefer a law over EOs)
 
No doubt I wasn't a fan of his Un Presidential behavior prior to Jan 6th. But as bad as Biden is I would have considered voting for Trump now if not for Jan 6th. That inaction and non response disqualified him from ever holding the office again in my opinion.
As the Chief Executive....his job is to carry out the laws of the land.....not trash them.
He chose personal political grievance over the Constitution that day as well as asking Pence to disregard the Constitution on a procedural process this country has carried off without a hitch for our entire history.
Those actions/inactions go way beyond traditional policy disputes like the border...(which Biden is too dense to see is an issue he could seize on in a heart beat even though I would prefer a law over EOs)

This is really odd. This same account, for weeks, was blaming republicans and Trump for the border, saying Biden didn’t have authority to act.

Now its acknowledging Biden is to blame.

It’s very strange. He sounds semi reasonable today (though still suffering from severe TDS), but everything he’s saying contradicts years of posting history.
 
SO typical of Karl. He doesn't answer a question. Instead he comes back deflections and personal putdowns.

Only because YOUR side would never agree to making them permanent. Same thing with Reagan and Bush. For a history guy, you don't know any.

Oh, and BTW ... communism, and communist leaders kill their citizens EVERY time it is tried. Now you know ...
Uhh what? He could've just not put in a time limit when they passed it, same as with the corporate rate. They passed it when controlling all three branches, Dems weren't involved at all. They voted against it.
 
What's "fake" about them? Other than forging documents? LOL
They don't meet the Safe Harbor standard laid out in the Electoral Count Act to prevent exactly this type of coup attempt after it was done by the South in 1876. There are all sorts of rules, like being approved by the Governor of that state, governing electors. What you mean "other than forging documents?" All electors are are holders of official documents.
 
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This is really odd. This same account, for weeks, was blaming republicans and Trump for the border, saying Biden didn’t have authority to act.

Now its acknowledging Biden is to blame.

It’s very strange. He sounds semi reasonable today (though still suffering from severe TDS), but everything he’s saying contradicts years of posting history.
I never said Biden can't act on anything....I said that the biggest issue is that the vast majority of these immigrants are coming to the border and claiming asylum. That is a law Biden can't change except via Congress with a law. An EO can't change laws on the books.
He could issue an EO about remaining in Mexico or various other border related restrictions.
But the number one issue is ASYLUM LAW.
Even with all of Trump's EO's the reason he needed to put kids in cages is because the immigrants were still ignoring remain in Mexico, showing up at the border and claiming ASYLUM.
That is the issue that can't be solved with an EO. If Biden did attempt that...it would be overturned in the courts quickly until the law is rewritten.
The border law the Pubs shot down attempted to do just that.

 
I agree with you. I just don’t see how Trump was ever the worse of the two evils even from a liberals viewpoint. The racist old rich warmongering white man who according to Dems is to blame for all our issues is exactly who they put in charge. And if he can’t go, by all accounts Dems had another privileged rich racist white man on deck to take his place.
But if Dems are only voting on identity, what is Trump? A nonbinary working class person of color? You forget about the whole only-two-options thing.
 
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What's "fake" about them? Other than forging documents? LOL

Absolutely nothing "fake" about alternate electors; that's just a stupid media spin, narrative to exploit naivete of the low-information left.

THe process of contesting the election was never even allowed to get started by Ted Cruz et al because of the so-called "insurrection" prevented it... interesting. 🤔
 
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And there's no need to whine about socialism/communism, as this inflation is happening right now under capitalism. It's capitalism, not socialism.
False. This is "capitalism" fettered by a bloated, interfering, monstrosity known as the Federal government. And the Democrat party has evolved into the absolute tip of the spear, with respect to protecting the elites in this country.
 
False. This is "capitalism" fettered by a bloated, interfering, monstrosity known as the Federal government. And the Democrat party has evolved into the absolute tip of the spear, with respect to protecting the elites in this country.
The primary focus of this fettered government.....If you haven't noticed....is keeping money in the hands of the already uber wealthy.
The spear used to protect the wealthy elites has two handles. One is labeled "Democrat" and the other "Republican".
The big scam is being able to convince half the population that the spear only has one handle.
 
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No doubt I wasn't a fan of his Un Presidential behavior prior to Jan 6th. But as bad as Biden is I would have considered voting for Trump now if not for Jan 6th. That inaction and non response disqualified him from ever holding the office again in my opinion.
As the Chief Executive....his job is to carry out the laws of the land.....not trash them.
He chose personal political grievance over the Constitution that day as well as asking Pence to disregard the Constitution on a procedural process this country has carried off without a hitch for our entire history.
Those actions/inactions go way beyond traditional policy disputes like the border...(which Biden is too dense to see is an issue he could seize on in a heart beat even though I would prefer a law over EOs)
If not for Jan 6th(which is obviously shorthand for Trump's plot, I don't care much at all about the actual riot that day, other than as a function of that plot) even someone as far left as myself would consider voting for Trump. The youth aren't behind Biden for real reasons. The more radical even feel Trump's coup attempt was based and support fascist revolution. But as a history nerd it's just a bridge too far for me. Our country was founded on antimonarchy, antinobility ideals. I am not willing to betray them for a reality TV billionaire. Power to the people.
 
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Absolutely nothing "fake" about alternate electors; that's just a stupid media spin, narrative to exploit naivete of the low-information left.

THe process of contesting the election was never even allowed to get started by Ted Cruz et al because of the so-called "insurrection" prevented it... interesting. 🤔
They were created outside the Safe Harbor process, explicitly to compete with the real, sanctioned electors. They are absolutely fake, there is nothing 'real' or legitimate about them at all, in any way.

The formal process for contesting has nothing to do with organizing fake electors. That process is outlined in the Constitution, which is not the case for fake electors. And that formal process still went on, some congresspeople still objected, even after the riot.
 
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If not for Jan 6th(which is obviously shorthand for Trump's plot, I don't care much at all about the actual riot that day, other than as a function of that plot) even someone as far left as myself would consider voting for Trump. The youth aren't behind Biden for real reasons. The more radical even feel Trump's coup attempt was based and support fascist revolution. But as a history nerd it's just a bridge too far for me. Our country was founded on antimonarchy, antinobility ideals. I am not willing to betray them for a reality TV billionaire. Power to the people.
His overt manipulation of the masses is also a deal breaker for me. Constantly playing to the lowest common denominator and exploiting base human fears of anyone that is different from traditional white, Christian conservative America.
Nothing wrong with being a white, Christian conservative American until you start thinking you have the God given right to create laws to impose your beliefs on others....like current abortion/trans laws in Ky.
Dems also don't have the right to impose their trans athlete beliefs down the throats of conservatives. You wanna be trans....go for it....but hormones don't turn a 6'5 swimmer into a 5'6 swimmer.

If everyone would live by the motto...."Your rights end, where mine begin".....this country would be much better off.

Trump just plays the victim card and has half the country believing they are victims just like him.

Same goes for Dems and their stupid reparations crap. My tax dollars shouldn't go to someone I never aggrieved.

Both sides play stupid games and give us stupid prizes. Just feel like the Pubs have jumped the shark more than Dems during the Trump years.
 
Nobody want's a third party more than the Clown. I promise you that.
You've expressed similar sentiment in previous conversations. A centrist party. So if multiple parties were to come to pass in America what do you think that would look like? Which factions would align along which issues to form what governing coalitions of what swathes of people? You think there are more moderates out there who would align on more issues with enough energy to shout down both the right and left?
 
They were created outside the Safe Harbor process, explicitly to compete with the real, sanctioned electors. They are absolutely fake, there is nothing 'real' or legitimate about them at all, in any way.

The formal process for contesting has nothing to do with organizing fake electors. That process is outlined in the Constitution, which is not the case for fake electors. And that formal process still went on, some congresspeople still objected, even after the riot.

That's not true, just narrative. They were not there to ""compete."

Cruz et al wanted to have a ten day senate investigation, after which the "fake" electors would've been certified by the states, provided there was justification. That process was prevented from ever even being considered.

"Your" coup attempt is a media spun lie which you are happy to regurgitate and promulgate. Nothing more.
 
If a left leaning media company or personality hosts the event Republicans complain. If a right leaning media company or personality hosts the event Democrats complain. At this point all politics is a shit show at best and Americans deserve better than that from both bloody government no matter who is in control.
So just how do we get better?
 
But if Dems are only voting on identity, what is Trump? A nonbinary working class person of color? You forget about the whole only-two-options thing.

Well he was at least a non establishment rich white man who historically was culturally “popular” among most Americans regardless of race, age, economic status until he ran as a R then the same groups that praised him in rap songs were now told and sold on that he was an oppressive racist.

On the other hand, Biden who had a strong history of being a racist, locking black folk up for drugs, etc and then told black people to their face if they don’t vote for him then they’re not black, carried the black vote by what? 90 percent?

Biden and Hillary had years of records of being on the wrong side of things. Seems to me, everyone would’ve been on board with giving an outsider a fair shot and navigating the bs. I get the limited choice we have, but never saw Biden as the lesser of the two evils unless you blindly just submitted to what the party told you to think.
 
Who're the communists again?
Time to troll Dion again. I've given everybody a break from spam.

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Dion, on the other hand, is clearly a sociopath. LOL

NIghtwish is a GYERO wannabe

vhcat is torn. He's a liberal, but he's conflicted. He hasn't come to terms with it yet. He's the confused teenager, sitting in his room, listening to The Smiths...
Tell me which Dim I've voted for in the last 40 years. Any choice you make is a lie. Ken Lucas for Congress was the last one.

MAGA thinks anyone not with them is a lib. LOL. Narrowminded group to the extreme.
 
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