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Folks, there's nothing wrong with spirited debate.

However, if this or any other thread starts deteriorating like the last one did, the bans will commence.

There's simply no excuse, IMO, for obscenities on a message board. You have plenty of time to couch your thoughts without resorting to profanity.

Keep it clean, please.
 
I appreciate your message Bob. This is suppose to be a site rated for general audiences and this may become serious problem for Yahoo/Rivals if it continues. One particular poster cannot seem to be able to type a sentence without loading it with an F bomb. He should have been long gone IMO.
 
Fox News confirms that Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, released last May by the Taliban, will be charged with desertion.
This post was edited on 3/25 2:21 PM by wkycatfan
 
Originally posted by wkycatfan:

Fox News confirms that Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, released last May by the Taliban, will be charged with desertion.
This post was edited on 3/25 2:21 PM by wkycatfan
Brilliant

Hang that guy and then put our administration on trial for releasing terrorists, paying ransom and make them answer for the 6 dead soldiers that died looking for this traitor.

Then make Susan Rice stand up before the nation and explain just how this guy "served with honor" one more time. Drag Hillary's fat ankles in there as well. Maybe BHO can hug momma and daddy in the Rose Garden again just for giggles.

The most corrupt, inept and un-American administration in history.
This post was edited on 3/25 2:38 PM by ukbob

This post was edited on 3/25 2:40 PM by ukbob
 
Originally posted by wkycatfan:


Fox News confirms that Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, released last May by the Taliban, will be charged with desertion.

This post was edited on 3/25 2:21 PM by wkycatfan
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@obama
 
Incredible to think our administration is this pathetic/inept. This, too, would end the careers of anyone involved if they weren't dems.
 
It wouldn't surprise me if the released terrorists will at some point be a part of another act of terror. What kind of trade was this anyway? Is Obama this naïve, or this big of an ideologue that he just doesn't care? It might be different if we got 5 honorable soldiers back in the return......Horrible, horrible, trade.
 
The only good reason for releasing those terrorists would have been if they implanted a tracking devices under their skin. Once they had returned to their terror buddies, we could then send them all to hell courtesy of the US military.
 
Just a complete mess by this administration with the whole deal. How anyone can defend releasing that many terrorists and losing several of our own for a pathetic POS deserter is beyond me. Top it off, Obama brings his parents to the White House for a media opportunity all the while this guy's Dad looks like a terrorist himself. This President and his administration are by far the most incompetent/corrupt/criminal bunch of clowns I can ever remember being in Washington and I was not a fan of some of the things Bush and especially Chaney did either.

Yes I am angry. I have loved ones in the military and in harms way defending this country and then see this mess unfold.
 
This POTUS doesn't believe we should torture. I get that. But releasing 5 of these guys......for 1 deserter.....it smells.
 
Originally posted by wkycatfan:

This POTUS doesn't believe we should torture. I get that. But releasing 5 of these guys......for 1 deserter.....it smells.
Come on guys, you all are smarter than this. Obama is gonna close GITMO without congress approval. If the cells are empty then it is closed,right? This President has taken the constitution and peed all over it,and our inept congress lets him get away with it. Instead of taking him to court for this type of stuff, congress keeps trying to repeal the HCA,shutdown the government,etc.
 
Originally posted by Deeeefense:
I appreciate your message Bob. This is suppose to be a site rated for general audiences and this may become serious problem for Yahoo/Rivals if it continues. One particular poster cannot seem to be able to type a sentence without loading it with an F bomb. He should have been long gone IMO.
Cryin to the mods to get someone banned is not cool.
 
I agree that on this surface this seems like a lousey deal for the US, but this deal was cooked up in the Pentagon, not the Oval Office:

DoD and Army officials defended the prisoner swap that led to Bergdahl's release. Army Chief of Staff Gen. Raymond
T. Odierno said in a statement, "It was always a high priority that every soldier deployed to
Afghanistan would return home. We will never leave a fallen comrade behind.


The Army was not clear on the circumstances of his disappearance and capture at the time and only after the board of inquiry has finished it's work was it determined that he was a deserter.

Military Leaders Defend Prison Exchange
 
Originally posted by KyFaninNC:

Originally posted by Deeeefense:
I appreciate your message Bob. This is suppose to be a site rated for general audiences and this may become serious problem for Yahoo/Rivals if it continues. One particular poster cannot seem to be able to type a sentence without loading it with an F bomb. He should have been long gone IMO.
Cryin to the mods to get someone banned is not cool.
Who got banned?
 
Originally posted by AlbanyWildCat:

Originally posted by KyFaninNC:

Originally posted by Deeeefense:
I appreciate your message Bob. This is suppose to be a site rated for general audiences and this may become serious problem for Yahoo/Rivals if it continues. One particular poster cannot seem to be able to type a sentence without loading it with an F bomb. He should have been long gone IMO.
Cryin to the mods to get someone banned is not cool.
Who got banned?
Cosby was dropping F bombs because a few conservatives were talking in support of Trump running for President. It made him so mad. I don't think he got banned, though - hope not.
 
On the surface? Good Lord

They should arrest Obama for aiding the enemy. Anyone trying to justify or downplay what these fools did on this thing is just so deeply lost they can't recover.

Remember. These are the same fools making a deal with Iran that could affect world security for a generation. God help us.

As bad as Congress is, I hope they can put a stop to this maniac or at least reign him in.


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This post was edited on 3/25 10:22 PM by ukbob
 
Originally posted by ukbob:

Remember. These are the same fools making a deal with Iran that could affect world security for a generation
The same Iran that helped the U.S overthrow the Taliban in 2001?


Or the same Iran that is fighting ISIS in a parallel war, which the U.S/CIA helping Iran with air strikes.


Telling ya'll. There's two sets of information. 1st set is disinformation to rile up Americans. The 2nd set is CIA info. Best part about a con is keeping your vics oblivious to the con.

Edit: Not saying we shouldn't be worried about Iran, but I find it very disturbing that one of the so called Axis of Evils gets U.S help. I just don't get it. Saudia Arabia is the mastermind and no one lays one bit of attention to them. Ridiculous.



This post was edited on 3/26 6:47 AM by Willy4UK

This post was edited on 3/26 7:06 AM by Willy4UK

Iran helps America
 
Originally posted by ukbob:
Remember. These are the same fools making a deal with Iran that could affect world security for a generation. God help us.

As bad as Congress is, I hope they can put a stop to this maniac or at least reign him in.
so the US congress controls what Russia, France, and China do?

people act like a unilateral US embargo against Iran is a viable plan.
 
I guess Obama had no say in the decision, Deeeefense?

Military personnel also defend the war in Iraq. Guess you are good with GWB now.
 
Originally posted by Willy4UK:
Originally posted by ukbob:

Remember. These are the same fools making a deal with Iran that could affect world security for a generation
The same Iran that helped the U.S overthrow the Taliban in 2001?


Or the same Iran that is fighting ISIS in a parallel war, which the U.S/CIA helping Iran with air strikes.


Telling ya'll. There's two sets of information. 1st set is disinformation to rile up Americans. The 2nd set is CIA info. Best part about a con is keeping your vics oblivious to the con.

Edit: Not saying we shouldn't be worried about Iran, but I find it very disturbing that one of the so called Axis of Evils gets U.S help. I just don't get it. Saudia Arabia is the mastermind and no one lays one bit of attention to them. Ridiculous.



This post was edited on 3/26 6:47 AM by Willy4UK
This post was edited on 3/26 7:06 AM by Willy4UK
Or the Iran that is dedicated to wiping out the only democracy in that region.
Or the Iran, who's leader shouted "death to Americans" just this past week.

Yeah, that one.

And I agree about the Saudi's.
 
The military did not negotiate with the terrorist Talibans and execute this exchange, what a stupid assertion. This was a White House operation from beginning to end. And the goal of Obama was achieved....emptying Guantanimo of those held there. Getting back a coward deserter was only a side benefit.

I realize people say foolish things to defend their team, but trying to pass responsibility for yet another foreign policy/military disaster onto the Pentagon from Barak Hussein is among the most foolish attempted on this site.

Why have this big huge celebration in the Rose garden if it were a Pentagon operation forced on the poor emasculated President?
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Why send the designated moron Susan Rice onto sunday morning shows to do what she does best, what she is only capable of doing - lying to the American people? (while still maintaining a job collecting a paycheck, paid for by Americans) did the Pentagon force her to show up, or her boss?

And only a blind partisan hack would think the Pentagon would orchestrate a deal where 5 dangerous Taliban's who were captured while trying to kill Americans are put right back on the battlefield to do what they were doing - trying to kill Americans.
 
Originally posted by Deeeefense:
I agree that on this surface this seems like a lousey deal for the US, but this deal was cooked up in the Pentagon, not the Oval Office:
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That Bill is nothing but fodder for the masses. I work for a federal agency, and I can assure you that pornograghic sites are off limits.
Anything with a chance of being pornographic is blocked, and if you somehow circumvent that, once discovered you receive time off, and likely termination.
 
Daily Beast article (hardly faux news or Limbaugh!): everything the White House told us about Berghdal trade was a lie

Not The Pentagon

The White House

Obama

Because only a blind partisan moron would think the Pentagon would negotiate and orchestrate this awful exchange. Or, someone who things Obama is a lazy n-word who doesnt work or run the goverment, rather plays golf or basketball all the time.

It is entirely up to the participants in this thread to cast their judgement on what a certain poster's viewpoint truly is....

Speaking truth to power
 
Originally posted by Deeeefense:
I agree that on this surface this seems like a lousey deal for the US, but this deal was cooked up in the Pentagon, not the Oval Office:
Typical and pathetic
 
Originally posted by JHB4UK:


And only a blind partisan hack would think the Pentagon would orchestrate a deal where 5 dangerous Taliban's who were captured while trying to kill Americans are put right back on the battlefield to do what they were doing - trying to kill Americans.
If you don't like the decision then call this guy and tell him he screwed up:

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If Obama had overruled the Pentagon and opted not to take the deal, this kid would have probably died in captivity and you would be yapping to high haven that his death was on Obama who should have listened to the military.
 
I don't have to take anything up with that guy, because he like everyone else at the Pentagon had nothing to do with going out and negotiating with terrorists to see how many terrorists we had to release back onto the battlefield in order to secure the release of a guy who was always known to have been a deserter.

Poor Barak, handcuffed to an awful transfer by the meenies at the Pentagon.

Is it your position as well that the Pentagon is responsible for sending Susan Rice out on Sunday tv shows to lie and say Berghdal served with distinction & honor?

Is the Pentagon responsible for State Department Deputy Spokeswoman Marie Harf, who called his platoon mates not credible and painted them as liars when they went to the media telling how Berghdal was a deserter?

Deputy Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs at the U.S. Dept. of Housing and Urban Development Brandon Friedman suggested publicly that the platoon might be full of "psychopaths." - again, as directed by the Pentagon?
 
Originally posted by Deeeefense:

Originally posted by JHB4UK:


And only a blind partisan hack would think the Pentagon would orchestrate a deal where 5 dangerous Taliban's who were captured while trying to kill Americans are put right back on the battlefield to do what they were doing - trying to kill Americans.
If you don't like the decision then call this guy and tell him he screwed up:

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If Obama had overruled the Pentagon and opted not to take the deal, this kid would have probably died in captivity and you would be yapping to high haven that his death was on Obama who should have listened to the military.
Obama was clearly behind this. It was his move. It failed miserably. Then he tried to cover it up with Susan Rice in the media.

Issues like this are why no one here takes you seriously. Posturing is one thing. Outright lying is quite another. No harm in admitting when your hero made a mistake. Would make you far more credible in the long run.
 
Originally posted by JHB4UK:
I don't have to take anything up with that guy, because he like everyone else at the Pentagon had nothing to do with going out and negotiating with terrorists to see how many terrorists we had to release back onto the battlefield in order to secure the release of a guy who was always known to have been a deserter.

Poor Barak, handcuffed to an awful transfer by the meenies at the Pentagon.

Is it your position as well that the Pentagon is responsible for sending Susan Rice out on Sunday tv shows to lie and say Berghdal served with distinction & honor?

Is the Pentagon responsible for State Department Deputy Spokeswoman Marie Harf, who called his platoon mates not credible and painted them as liars when they went to the media telling how Berghdal was a deserter?

Deputy Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs at the U.S. Dept. of Housing and Urban Development Brandon Friedman suggested publicly that the platoon might be full of "psychopaths." - again, as directed by the Pentagon?
The point I made cite's a reputable source The Association Of The United States Army. If you believe this deal was cooked up in the Whitehouse instead, post a source to validate it.

I'm not familiar with the Harf comment, but I will agree that the Whitehouse handled the PR on this very poorly. The Rose Garden Ceremony and the Rice comments were idiotic.

Prison exchanges are suppose to benefit both sides, obviously we got the short end of the stick, no argument there. Israel once traded 1000 prisoners for one of their guys. It just depends on your priorities. If it turned out later that this character had been kidnapped instead of deserting, it would look a lot better. You know what they say about hind sight.
 
Originally posted by bigblueinsanity:
Obama was clearly behind this. It was his move. It failed miserably. Then he tried to cover it up with Susan Rice in the media.

Issues like this are why no one here takes you seriously. Posturing is one thing. Outright lying is quite another. No harm in admitting when your hero made a mistake. Would make you far more credible in the long run.
Like I said to JHB - I posted a link from a credible source. If you think it's wrong prove it. Just repeating what you heard smart sounding political hacks from your news sources say doesn't make it so.

IMO fair-minded people take seriously those that back up their statements with sources, not those that repeat opinions based on their political biases.

BTW I did say that the PR was handled poorly by the Whitehouse, you're right about that.
 
Originally posted by DSmith21:
The only good reason for releasing those terrorists would have been if they implanted a tracking devices under their skin. Once they had returned to their terror buddies, we could then send them all to hell courtesy of the US military.
Boom! I like it.
 
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