it’s official now, we really need to start announcing some of our assistants. Need some positive news
Kenny Payne to Arkansas
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Why is it so important that there is positive news soon? I just don’t get it. Help me understand.
Don't worry guys, we're going to announce Mark Fox as being on staff soon!
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Already been said gotta wait the 7 day period to announce. Dunno how much of a pull Payne has since his flop at ul
Well all these transfers are going different places, some of the transfers we are going after seem to be going to different schools. Idk just feel like we need some announcements about who will be the assistants
Fox is a solid hire, more of a coach than Payne. Plus he's not gonna be used for recruiting lol
Some of our fans are in a prick waving competition with Arkansas.
That's exactly what Cal wants. Helps undo the puckering effect.
Here’s a link for those of us that prefer proof to LXtrillys word.
Kenny Payne is a walking disaster. Are we supposed to be jealous?
How much longer are you going to keep up this act?
He is an awful hire. He just got fired last year at Cal for going 38-87 in 4 years. 17-61 in the pac 12.
Before that he was fired at UGA going 163-133. And 77-79 in the SEC.
In 18 years of coaching he has been in the NCAA tournament 5 times, never past the 2nd rd. 3 of those came his first 3 years of coaching. He hasn't coached an NCAA tournament team since 2015.
Having a better record as a HC than Payne isn't the recommendation you seem to think.
Kenny Payne or no Kenny Payne it’s pretty clear Arkansas will have a lot of talent .
Cal is the coach though . Talent is rarely the problem with him. But one big thing is the problem and it can kill the talent that you bring in .
Cal is the coach though . Talent is rarely the problem with him. But one big thing is the problem and it can kill the talent that you bring in .
Here is a complete list of all of the good players Kenny Payne signed at UL:
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I didn't realize he was hired to be our head coach.
What's Fox's head coaching record? What's Payne's record? Let it play out. If it's a bad hire, critique it after the fact, not before it's even official.
BluesDaddy is really the username Cal is my Daddy. We aren't talking about hiring Fox as a head coach.
This logic that Payne or Fox aren't good hires because they didn't succeed in big ways as a head coach is silly.
Fox is a great X’s and O’s Coach, particularly on defense. His Nevada team over achieved more than any team in the country multiple years. Better than KP. Stop acting like that’s a bad hire
I believe KP is just overrated.
You do know that’s how a lot of breakups work right? No different with coaches.
You spend 15 years with someone you have a natural inclination to show them up.
Hurry up and announce/hire!
Why did we rush and announce/hire?!
I wish Barnhart would've leaked that he was hiring Christian Laettner just to clear the bridge.
Why did we rush and announce/hire?!
I wish Barnhart would've leaked that he was hiring Christian Laettner just to clear the bridge.
Oh I agree. Some guys are just natural number 2s. But I don't think KP is some big man guru as he was played out to be. WCS couldn't hit a mid range jumpshot here in 3 years. Cal was just pulling in insane talent from 2009-2015 that propped him up. I know Cal won't use him as X's and O's help. He's too stubborn.
What act? Let me guess, I am "trolling" because I said something you disagree with?
Well, not sure what you know about hiring people, but generally you look to hire people who have shown success in the industry you're hiring them for. What exactly is the criteria we're supposed to base his hiring on?
You should read post 14. It gives a pretty good breakdown.
Although, is the only criteria needed to he hired by Pope that you have a better HC record than Payne?
However, Payne has a great track record as an assistant coach, and working with Cal, which is what he was hired to do. What about Fox...what was his hiring based on?
Ohh, right. Because I've said so many glowing things about Cal's fat ass. Can you point those out for us?
Hint: not everything is about Cal, Moron!
How someone fares as a head coach vs as an assistant is two different things. Assistants have designated roles and responsibilities. Head coaches have to oversee all of that. Some are better at one than the other.
I've read it and I already knew of Fox's successes and failures as a head coach. If you want to question why Fox would be considered, let me pose a question to you. Why was Bruiser brought on to the staff? What were his qualifications?
Perhaps there isn't anything to announce.
Maybe Pope patterns his life after the Gambler song.
Not disagreeing, but I am curious what his qualifications and background are for the role he is being hired for.
I, like most, was always perplexed why Bruiser was brought here and what his role was. It seemed like a friend hire, which is why I am now questioning this hire since I don't understand it either.
What are Fox's qualifications for the job he is being given?
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