As a whole, he's correct. But that caveat is directly on point with the discussion. We're talking about athletes in their teens and twenties here. Do you not agree it's disingenuous to omit that fact given the discussion?
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geez these anti-vax loonies are something else
hey feel free to keep getting your info from YouTube wannabes asking for a handout just leave the rest of the world alone
hey feel free to keep getting your info from YouTube wannabes asking for a handout just leave the rest of the world alone
You sure did post a lot when simply saying his post was correct would suffice. Also, the jab as the antivaxxers think is clever to call it is blamed for everything regardless of age so he’s point is valid regardless of age.
Hey just FYI but the poster you’re talking to will literally respond to you for 15 days with jibber jabber unless you just walk away right now. Your point was proven and correct to anyone that is impartial.
Hard to tell if you are talking apples to apples or apples to oranges. Might be a good idea for everyone to take a pause and accept they might be wrong. Information about Bronny is limited.
Didn’t the son of Kirk Herbstreit that plays at OSU have something going on lately, heart issue? I seen Stoops mentioned them in his SEC media day opening statements
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I didn’t say his point was incorrect. I pointed out that the initial point which he tried to dismiss was factually correct. Both of those items can be true. Don’t want me to respond don’t quote my post. It’s a pretty simple solution. I won’t back down from my argument. I don’t care if you think it is jibber jabber. I don’t make posts to please you and whether you like it or not doesnt even make the list of my considerations.
Nope. Everybody is speaking generally about the vaccine.
This isn’t a political discussion. It’s a discussion of science.
The science of measuring miocharditis among those infected is very hard because of how many asymptomatic cases that were never discovered.
The issue is that both sides of the political spectrum ignored science. Idiots on the left kept schools closed when kids were at virtually no risk. Kids suffered and still suffer. Teacher’s unions did our country and kids a massive disservice.
Loonies on both the left and right have made up sensational claims about the vaccines. The vaccines have acted just like every other viral vaccine. They pose the risk of potential inflammation. Not just in your heart. But joints etc…. Just like the virus can. Except in almost all cases the risk from the virus is greater than the vaccine.
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It’s lazy for people to say or assume politics so I appreciate you getting it back to “science” and not an agenda.
No one is anti Vax. That isn't even a vaccine. We are anti mandates on experimental DNA therapy. Therapy so effective they had to force mandates to get ppl to take. More vaccines administered the more money pharma made.
By all means you can shoot heroin directly into you eyeballs if you want. I don't want the govt telling me they are going to forcefully experiment on me and my child.
You loons are comparing these jabs with no data to vaccines that we used for Half a century with plenty of trial data. Hell they admit flu shots are largely ineffective most yrs even with 70 yrs of practice.
We could have went thru this jab free and had the same results. Virus is going to virus.
And libs will get down on knees mouth wide open for anything their govt overlords spit at them. My body my choice remember.
I hope bronny is OK. He's just a kid.
I believe there were multiple studies posted in this thread. Since it appears you didn’t read the one I was referring to, I will re-post the link. Originally posted by @TXCatFBFan
New study updates evidence on rare heart condition after covid vaccination | BMJ
Summary of evidence on the risk of heart inflammation after mRNA vaccination against the covid-19 virus.www.bmj.com
My bad. I love you 😀
Good news is that he seems to have survived. The rest is bad news. Just a sad story.
Glad Bronny pulled through. Whenever I hear something like this, it makes me think of a local high school kid in East TN several years ago named Jake Logue. Jake wasn't a 5 star and didn't even have a recruiting profile. He was just a kid enjoying his senior year of football when he collapsed and died late 3rd quarter of the season opener. He was trotting back to the huddle after a play and just collapsed. It turned out he had a problem with one of his heart valves that his physicals didn't detect.
Same thing with a guy who was a maintenance mechanic at work. He was 33, a non-smoker and non-drinker. He was a big, strapping dude who looked like he could bench press a dump truck. One day just before lunch, he was at his toolbox putting some things away, and he collapsed. Two of his coworkers performed CPR on him until the company EMTs got there and took over, but he was dead. One EMT said he was probably dead before he hit the floor. No history of heart trouble, but the autopsy showed he had a bad valve.
My family has a history of heart trouble and I have a stress and echo test every few years. Had one last October and everything still looks good. I've outlived my older brother, who died at 57 and closing in on my dad's 69 years. I've no doubt taken better care of myself than they did, but still, your heart can be a bitch if you neglect her.
Same thing with a guy who was a maintenance mechanic at work. He was 33, a non-smoker and non-drinker. He was a big, strapping dude who looked like he could bench press a dump truck. One day just before lunch, he was at his toolbox putting some things away, and he collapsed. Two of his coworkers performed CPR on him until the company EMTs got there and took over, but he was dead. One EMT said he was probably dead before he hit the floor. No history of heart trouble, but the autopsy showed he had a bad valve.
My family has a history of heart trouble and I have a stress and echo test every few years. Had one last October and everything still looks good. I've outlived my older brother, who died at 57 and closing in on my dad's 69 years. I've no doubt taken better care of myself than they did, but still, your heart can be a bitch if you neglect her.
Zero evidence, just fear mongering.
Wait till these tinfoil hat anti-vaxxers realize cardiac arrests happened before the pandemic too.
Don’t you hate how secular leftists HAVE to control the language in order to shame and harass any ideological dissenters? “Anti-vaxxer” “conspiracy theorists” “bigots” “racists” etc.
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Yep. They're brainwashed & the poor ignorant puppets don't realize it.
The mmr vaccine caused my paralysis.... being skeptical is a healthy thing.
The covid vaccine does not stop transmission.
You could have said "I have no evidence for anything, I'm just a big doofus." That would have sufficed.
My not being vaccinated has much more to do with the fact that I have a extremely low risk of severe case or death based on many factors (age, fit, no major comorbidities, etc), and the fact that the vaccine doesn't do anything to keep you from getting it or passing it along. In addition, natural immunity invokes a stronger reaction to the virus than the vaccine (CDC recognized), so there is literally no reason for myself or my children to take it. I guess I have to ask those that want to point fingers at those of us that didn't get it, if it doesn't necessarily help with keeping you from getting it, and you can still pass it along, why would you have your children or young adults get it if they are at an extremely low risk?
Watch out common sense isn’t allowed on here you might be called tinfoil hat head
From your link...
"Major adverse cardiac events (MACE) including acute heart failure, cardiac death, life-threatening arrhythmia and acute myocardial infarction (AMI) were assessed at 30-day follow-up. "
"Thirty-day follow-up was completed in 775 participants (99.7%) and no participant developed MACE (0% [95%CI 0-0.4%])"
"all cases were mild with only a transient and short period of myocardial injury (maximum hs-cTnT concentration 35ng/L). No patient showed ECG changes and, no patient developed MACE within 30 days"
"its transient nature, good long-term outcomes can be expected. COVID-19 associates with a substantially higher risk for myocarditis that mRNA vaccination33, and myocarditis related to COVID-19 infection has shown a higher mortality than myocarditis related to mRNA-vaccination.34,35 Thus, for the majority of individuals, the overall very favorable risk-benefit ratio of booster immunizationspersists"
"Before the COVID-19 vaccine were available, the incidence and extent of myocardial injury associated with COVID-19 infection was much higher than observed in this active surveillance study after booster vaccination."
I will stop there.
That's exactly what happened, but I was a year old and it was 1983. Just didn't have conclusive proof.
As far as bronny, hope he's alright. If it's from covid or the covid vaccine, both of those were made by our tax dollars. So screw all involved in that cluster.
At the end of the day, the medical histories and whatever serious issues people may have are none of our business. Bronny could've been vaccinated but received no booster. Maybe this incident stems from that decision. Or, maybe it doesn't. Maybe he actually wasn't vaxxed and this was unavoidable. We just don't know but now that's never going to stop many from asserting their personal beliefs into any scary health situation. Jamie Foxx recently had some serious health issues but no one from his camp is speaking about it, and that's their right. It's not our business. That won't stop some from making it a vaxx issue though. And I'm not putting the full blame on folks who have serious questions about the vaccine. I do think however that thought process has now become an obsession with some. For the next couple of decades, any health issue in a celebrity will automatically go back to the vax or someone being dramatic and saying 'they probably had 47 boosters." Dunno man, it's just tiresome seeing so many assertions and pretend experts online just because you read some articles during COVID or listened to a podcast (not directing that at anyone here, just in general).
This is a James family situation. They should ask how and why this happened and probably have. This is a four page thread (including a couple of my posts) mostly about the vax, when we have no clue what actually happened. That's all I'm saying in my extremely long-winded way.
This is a James family situation. They should ask how and why this happened and probably have. This is a four page thread (including a couple of my posts) mostly about the vax, when we have no clue what actually happened. That's all I'm saying in my extremely long-winded way.
Why does he call Bronny a USC All-American? He was a McDonald's All-American, not USC. He isn't likely to be a college All-American. Even less likely now.
Correct. I wasn't sharing to prove any point. It's a new study & I'm just sharing. I'm not on "sides", I just want truth & transparency.
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