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Your starting lineup, and predictions assuming we get Bamba and Cam

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Starting lineup First up. Hami is gonna surprise some people with his shooting. People said Markell Fultz couldn't shoot. Look what he just did. Happens every year. Some even said Lamb wasn't a great 3pt shooter. List goes on. Hami's been working non stop on his shot, and I see him picking up where Monk left off as a high volume, high % 3pt shooter. It amazes me he's not getting the credit he deserves. This kid would have been top 10 in this past years class, IMO, the best SG in this class. We're actually gonna have a really good 3pt shooting team.

Quade Green - 11pts, 5ast, 3rbs, 41% from 3
Hamidou Diallo - 15pts, 4rbs, 2ast, 40% from 3
Jarred Vanderbilt - 13pts, 7rbs, 4ast, 1blk, 33% from 3
PJ Washington - 12pts, 7rbs, 1blk, 1ast, 38% from 3
Mohamed Bamba - 11pts, 10rbs, 4blks

Bench

Shai Alexander - 6pts, 3ast, 3rbs, 1stl, 36% from 3
Cam Johnson - 8pts, 5rbs, 2ast, 44% from 3.
Jemarl Baker - 4pts, 2ast, 2rbs, 42% from 3 (IMO. Plays 12ish mins a game, and surprises some)
Wenyen Gabriel - 6pts, 5rbs, 1blk, 34% from 3
Nick Richards - 7pts, 7rbs, 2blks
Sacha Killeya Jones - Odd man out
Tai Wenyard - Odd man out, should transfer, open up a scholly as he's never going to be any good

We're gonna be a long, athletic, great defensive team full of mismatches, but we'll also still be a juggernaut offensively and IMO we'll still be able to put up some big numbers points wise. I think with all the talent we have we'll be, like last year, averaging at or over 90 a game early in the year. I think my predictions puts us at 90 even. completely possible considering the weapons we have. We'll score A LOT of points off offensive rebounds, lobs, and put backs. And we have several guys who can score in multiple ways. This is gonna be a juggernaut team.
 
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Starting lineup First up. Hami is gonna surprise some people with his shooting. People said Markell Fultz couldn't shoot. Look what he just did. Happens every year. Some even said Lamb wasn't a great 3pt shooter. List goes on. Hami's been working non stop on his shot, and I see him picking up where Monk left off as a high volume, high % 3pt shooter. It amazes me he's not getting the credit he deserves. This kid would have been top 10 in this past years class, IMO, the best SG in this class. We're actually gonna have a really good 3pt shooting team.

Quade Green - 11pts, 5ast, 3rbs, 41% from 3
Hamidou Diallo - 15pts, 4rbs, 2ast, 40% from 3
Jarred Vanderbilt - 13pts, 7rbs, 4ast, 1blk, 33% from 3
PJ Washington - 12pts, 7rbs, 1blk, 1ast, 38% from 3
Mohamed Bamba - 11pts, 10rbs, 4blks

Bench

Shai Alexander - 6pts, 3ast, 3rbs, 1stl, 36% from 3
Cam Johnson - 8pts, 5rbs, 2ast, 44% from 3.
Jemarl Baker - 4pts, 2ast, 2rbs, 42% from 3 (IMO. Plays 12ish mins a game, and surprises some)
Wenyen Gabriel - 6pts, 5rbs, 1blk, 34% from 3
Nick Richards - 7pts, 7rbs, 2blks
Sacha Killeya Jones - Odd man out
Tai Wenyard - Odd man out, should transfer, open up a scholly as he's never going to be any good

We're gonna be a long, athletic, great defensive team full of mismatches, but we'll also still be a juggernaut offensively and IMO we'll still be able to put up some big numbers points wise. I think with all the talent we have we'll be, like last year, averaging at or over 90 a game early in the year. I think my predictions puts us at 90 even. completely possible considering the weapons we have. We'll score A LOT of points off offensive rebounds, lobs, and put backs. We have several guys who can score.
Starting lineup First up. Hami is gonna surprise some people with his shooting. People said Markell Fultz couldn't shoot. Look what he just did. Happens every year. Some even said Lamb wasn't a great 3pt shooter. List goes on. Hami's been working non stop on his shot, and I see him picking up where Monk left off as a high volume, high % 3pt shooter. It amazes me he's not getting the credit he deserves. This kid would have been top 10 in this past years class, IMO, the best SG in this class. We're actually gonna have a really good 3pt shooting team.

Quade Green - 11pts, 5ast, 3rbs, 41% from 3
Hamidou Diallo - 15pts, 4rbs, 2ast, 40% from 3
Jarred Vanderbilt - 13pts, 7rbs, 4ast, 1blk, 33% from 3
PJ Washington - 12pts, 7rbs, 1blk, 1ast, 38% from 3
Mohamed Bamba - 11pts, 10rbs, 4blks

Bench

Shai Alexander - 6pts, 3ast, 3rbs, 1stl, 36% from 3
Cam Johnson - 8pts, 5rbs, 2ast, 44% from 3.
Jemarl Baker - 4pts, 2ast, 2rbs, 42% from 3 (IMO. Plays 12ish mins a game, and surprises some)
Wenyen Gabriel - 6pts, 5rbs, 1blk, 34% from 3
Nick Richards - 7pts, 7rbs, 2blks
Sacha Killeya Jones - Odd man out
Tai Wenyard - Odd man out, should transfer, open up a scholly as he's never going to be any good

We're gonna be a long, athletic, great defensive team full of mismatches, but we'll also still be a juggernaut offensively and IMO we'll still be able to put up some big numbers points wise. I think with all the talent we have we'll be, like last year, averaging at or over 90 a game early in the year. I think my predictions puts us at 90 even. completely possible considering the weapons we have. We'll score A LOT of points off offensive rebounds, lobs, and put backs. We have several guys who can score.

Green
Diallo
Johnson
SKJ or Gabriel
Bamba

If Bam returns, plug him in for SKJ or Gabriel. Only way we get both Bamba and Bam, though, is if Bamba commits before Bam announces his return imo.

Could also put Washington in at the 4, lot of options. Just going with the upperclassman on this one. Vanderbilt could also start at the 3 or 4, but I like Johnson's outside touch on the wing.

Shai and Richards both get major clock with the aforementioned players. This team could go 10 deep and could plato- I'll stop.
 
Starting lineup First up. Hami is gonna surprise some people with his shooting. People said Markell Fultz couldn't shoot. Look what he just did. Happens every year. Some even said Lamb wasn't a great 3pt shooter. List goes on. Hami's been working non stop on his shot, and I see him picking up where Monk left off as a high volume, high % 3pt shooter. It amazes me he's not getting the credit he deserves. This kid would have been top 10 in this past years class, IMO, the best SG in this class. We're actually gonna have a really good 3pt shooting team.

Quade Green - 11pts, 5ast, 3rbs, 41% from 3
Hamidou Diallo - 15pts, 4rbs, 2ast, 40% from 3
Jarred Vanderbilt - 13pts, 7rbs, 4ast, 1blk, 33% from 3
PJ Washington - 12pts, 7rbs, 1blk, 1ast, 38% from 3
Mohamed Bamba - 11pts, 10rbs, 4blks

Bench

Shai Alexander - 6pts, 3ast, 3rbs, 1stl, 36% from 3
Cam Johnson - 8pts, 5rbs, 2ast, 44% from 3.
Jemarl Baker - 4pts, 2ast, 2rbs, 42% from 3 (IMO. Plays 12ish mins a game, and surprises some)
Wenyen Gabriel - 6pts, 5rbs, 1blk, 34% from 3
Nick Richards - 7pts, 7rbs, 2blks
Sacha Killeya Jones - Odd man out
Tai Wenyard - Odd man out, should transfer, open up a scholly as he's never going to be any good

We're gonna be a long, athletic, great defensive team full of mismatches, but we'll also still be a juggernaut offensively and IMO we'll still be able to put up some big numbers points wise. I think with all the talent we have we'll be, like last year, averaging at or over 90 a game early in the year. I think my predictions puts us at 90 even. completely possible considering the weapons we have. We'll score A LOT of points off offensive rebounds, lobs, and put backs. And we have several guys who can score in multiple ways. This is gonna be a juggernaut team.

Who ever said Markelle Fultz couldn't shoot?
 
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I won't go in-depth, but here is my take:

Starters

G Green- top in assists.
G Diallo- leading scorer
F Vanderbilt- best all-around.
F Bamba- best rebounder.
F Richards- best shotblocker.

Key Reserves

G Gilgeous-Alexander
G Johnson
F Washington
F Gabriel
I like your lineup bucsrule. I agree with everything except that I feel like PJ Washington will start at the 4 and he will end up being our leading/best rebounder. Also, Bamba, Vanderbilt, and Diallo should also be solid rebounders at their positions so hopefully we will not struggle on the boards like we did this past season.
 
Really, there are lots of possibilities.

I could see Johnson or Washington ending up starting just because we don't have much shooting on the perimeter.

Gabriel is also a possibility. We tend to forget that he was a 5-star, top 15 player in a very strong class and he started several games for us last season.

We are all enamored with this new class, but remember it's suppose to be a relativiely weak class. We saw these guys against other HS guys so it's hard to judge. We might be expecting too much out of these guys.

Wouldn't be shocked at all to see Green, Diallo, Johnson, Gabriel, and Bamba as the starting five, at least to begin the year.
 
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Starting lineup First up. Hami is gonna surprise some people with his shooting. People said Markell Fultz couldn't shoot. Look what he just did. Happens every year. Some even said Lamb wasn't a great 3pt shooter. List goes on. Hami's been working non stop on his shot, and I see him picking up where Monk left off as a high volume, high % 3pt shooter. It amazes me he's not getting the credit he deserves. This kid would have been top 10 in this past years class, IMO, the best SG in this class. We're actually gonna have a really good 3pt shooting team.

Quade Green - 11pts, 5ast, 3rbs, 41% from 3
Hamidou Diallo - 15pts, 4rbs, 2ast, 40% from 3
Jarred Vanderbilt - 13pts, 7rbs, 4ast, 1blk, 33% from 3
PJ Washington - 12pts, 7rbs, 1blk, 1ast, 38% from 3
Mohamed Bamba - 11pts, 10rbs, 4blks

Bench

Shai Alexander - 6pts, 3ast, 3rbs, 1stl, 36% from 3
Cam Johnson - 8pts, 5rbs, 2ast, 44% from 3.
Jemarl Baker - 4pts, 2ast, 2rbs, 42% from 3 (IMO. Plays 12ish mins a game, and surprises some)
Wenyen Gabriel - 6pts, 5rbs, 1blk, 34% from 3
Nick Richards - 7pts, 7rbs, 2blks
Sacha Killeya Jones - Odd man out
Tai Wenyard - Odd man out, should transfer, open up a scholly as he's never going to be any good

We're gonna be a long, athletic, great defensive team full of mismatches, but we'll also still be a juggernaut offensively and IMO we'll still be able to put up some big numbers points wise. I think with all the talent we have we'll be, like last year, averaging at or over 90 a game early in the year. I think my predictions puts us at 90 even. completely possible considering the weapons we have. We'll score A LOT of points off offensive rebounds, lobs, and put backs. And we have several guys who can score in multiple ways. This is gonna be a juggernaut team.

Bashing UK players at the end ruined your post. No need for that.
 
Starting lineup First up. Hami is gonna surprise some people with his shooting. People said Markell Fultz couldn't shoot. Look what he just did. Happens every year. Some even said Lamb wasn't a great 3pt shooter. List goes on. Hami's been working non stop on his shot, and I see him picking up where Monk left off as a high volume, high % 3pt shooter. It amazes me he's not getting the credit he deserves. This kid would have been top 10 in this past years class, IMO, the best SG in this class. We're actually gonna have a really good 3pt shooting team.

Quade Green - 11pts, 5ast, 3rbs, 41% from 3
Hamidou Diallo - 15pts, 4rbs, 2ast, 40% from 3
Jarred Vanderbilt - 13pts, 7rbs, 4ast, 1blk, 33% from 3
PJ Washington - 12pts, 7rbs, 1blk, 1ast, 38% from 3
Mohamed Bamba - 11pts, 10rbs, 4blks

Bench

Shai Alexander - 6pts, 3ast, 3rbs, 1stl, 36% from 3
Cam Johnson - 8pts, 5rbs, 2ast, 44% from 3.
Jemarl Baker - 4pts, 2ast, 2rbs, 42% from 3 (IMO. Plays 12ish mins a game, and surprises some)
Wenyen Gabriel - 6pts, 5rbs, 1blk, 34% from 3
Nick Richards - 7pts, 7rbs, 2blks
Sacha Killeya Jones - Odd man out
Tai Wenyard - Odd man out, should transfer, open up a scholly as he's never going to be any good

We're gonna be a long, athletic, great defensive team full of mismatches, but we'll also still be a juggernaut offensively and IMO we'll still be able to put up some big numbers points wise. I think with all the talent we have we'll be, like last year, averaging at or over 90 a game early in the year. I think my predictions puts us at 90 even. completely possible considering the weapons we have. We'll score A LOT of points off offensive rebounds, lobs, and put backs. And we have several guys who can score in multiple ways. This is gonna be a juggernaut team.

So you think we're going to average 93 ppg? Consistent scoring is the glaring weakness on next years team. i think we'll be fortunate to average around 80 ppg. I also think Gabriel and SKJ will be integral pieces of the team.

Greene
Diallo
Vanderbilt
Gabriel
Bamba
 
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I like your lineup bucsrule. I agree with everything except that I feel like PJ Washington will start at the 4 and he will end up being our leading/best rebounder. Also, Bamba, Vanderbilt, and Diallo should also be solid rebounders at their positions so hopefully we will not struggle on the boards like we did this past season.

I could see Washington in there at the 4.

We will see all kinds of combinations.

With Johnson and Bamba, we have 8 guys that I would not be shocked to see starting some time during the season:

Green- lock.
Diallo- lock.
Bamba- lock.
Johnson
Gabriel
Vanderbilt
Washington
Richards

Really, I see that as our rotation by tourney time. SGA might get a few minutes, but Green is going to get 35+mpg by the end of the season, like most of Cal's PG's. Baker, SKJ, and Wynyard are probably looking at spot duty.
 
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Johnson won't start. Dude was ranked 274 in his own class, and was the third-highest scorer on a horrible team. He's a gifted shooter, but his weaknesses are those that drive Cal nuts - foot speed, athleticism, and defensive intensity. OP had starting lineups correct. As interesting as it *could* be, I don't see Richards and Bamba playing together very often. We have some very dynamic players in the PF position. PJ Washington, in particular, is 90% of the rebounder and shot-blocker that Richards is, while also bringing shooting, handles, and a knack for steals that Richards lacks.

PG: Green
SG: Diallo
SF: Vanderbilt
PF: Washington
C : Bamba
 
Johnson won't start. Dude was ranked 274 in his own class, and was the third-highest scorer on a horrible team. He's a gifted shooter, but his weaknesses are those that drive Cal nuts - foot speed, athleticism, and defensive intensity. OP had starting lineups correct. As interesting as it *could* be, I don't see Richards and Bamba playing together very often. We have some very dynamic players in the PF position. PJ Washington, in particular, is 90% of the rebounder and shot-blocker that Richards is, while also bringing shooting, handles, and a knack for steals that Richards lacks.

PG: Green
SG: Diallo
SF: Vanderbilt
PF: Washington
C : Bamba
Shooting would be a big concern with that group.Teams would pack it in with Green being the only shooter.
 
Shooting would be a big concern with that group.Teams would pack it in with Green being the only shooter.

That's my concern as well, though Washington has a decent stroke.

If Diallo and Vanderbilt can improve their stroke from the perimeter, then it might work.

If not, Cal has to give Johnson some serious minutes.
 
Starting lineup First up. Hami is gonna surprise some people with his shooting. People said Markell Fultz couldn't shoot. Look what he just did. Happens every year. Some even said Lamb wasn't a great 3pt shooter. List goes on. Hami's been working non stop on his shot, and I see him picking up where Monk left off as a high volume, high % 3pt shooter. It amazes me he's not getting the credit he deserves. This kid would have been top 10 in this past years class, IMO, the best SG in this class. We're actually gonna have a really good 3pt shooting team.

Quade Green - 11pts, 5ast, 3rbs, 41% from 3
Hamidou Diallo - 15pts, 4rbs, 2ast, 40% from 3
Jarred Vanderbilt - 13pts, 7rbs, 4ast, 1blk, 33% from 3
PJ Washington - 12pts, 7rbs, 1blk, 1ast, 38% from 3
Mohamed Bamba - 11pts, 10rbs, 4blks

Bench

Shai Alexander - 6pts, 3ast, 3rbs, 1stl, 36% from 3
Cam Johnson - 8pts, 5rbs, 2ast, 44% from 3.
Jemarl Baker - 4pts, 2ast, 2rbs, 42% from 3 (IMO. Plays 12ish mins a game, and surprises some)
Wenyen Gabriel - 6pts, 5rbs, 1blk, 34% from 3
Nick Richards - 7pts, 7rbs, 2blks
Sacha Killeya Jones - Odd man out
Tai Wenyard - Odd man out, should transfer, open up a scholly as he's never going to be any good

We're gonna be a long, athletic, great defensive team full of mismatches, but we'll also still be a juggernaut offensively and IMO we'll still be able to put up some big numbers points wise. I think with all the talent we have we'll be, like last year, averaging at or over 90 a game early in the year. I think my predictions puts us at 90 even. completely possible considering the weapons we have. We'll score A LOT of points off offensive rebounds, lobs, and put backs. And we have several guys who can score in multiple ways. This is gonna be a juggernaut team.
Dallio is top 10 #1 SG.
 
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I won't go in-depth, but here is my take:

Starters

G Green- top in assists.
G Diallo- leading scorer
F Vanderbilt- best all-around.
F Bamba- best rebounder.
F Richards- best shotblocker.

Key Reserves

G Gilgeous-Alexander
G Johnson
F Washington
F Gabriel
PJ washington starts.Richards sits. Bamba is a center point. Blank. period. Bam comes back he will be the 4.
 
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Bamba
Vanderbilt
Gabriel
Diallo
Green

Shai, Richards, Washington, and Johnson all will play significant minutes as well

I could see Baker coming in to take a few 3 pointers
 
I still don't see Washington as a power forward. He might be 6'8" in shoes and I think there is a reason Cal wants him to drop 10 lbs.
 
People are obsessed with having a "shooter" on the floor at any cost, and I blame the 2010 West Virginia game for that. Shooters are great, but a better strategy is to simply run your best players. If you have shooting specialists that are fundamentally flawed in other ways, it could easily make sense to deploy them situationally against paint-packing defenses, but that's it. Cam Johnson is not a starter. Jemarl Baker is not a starter. Our best 3P shooter with a chance of starting is SGA. But even Shai may not live up to Cal's strict defense and conditioning standards.
 
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People are obsessed with having a "shooter" on the floor at any cost, and I blame the 2010 West Virginia game for that. Shooters are great, but a better strategy is to simply run your best players. If you have shooting specialists that are fundamentally flawed in other ways, it could easily make sense to deploy them situationally against paint-packing defenses, but that's it. Cam Johnson is not a starter. Jemarl Baker is not a starter. Our best 3P shooter with a chance of starting is SGA. But even Shai may not live up to Cal's strict defense and conditioning standards.
Finally someone says this.
 
People are obsessed with having a "shooter" on the floor at any cost, and I blame the 2010 West Virginia game for that. Shooters are great, but a better strategy is to simply run your best players. If you have shooting specialists that are fundamentally flawed in other ways, it could easily make sense to deploy them situationally against paint-packing defenses, but that's it. Cam Johnson is not a starter. Jemarl Baker is not a starter. Our best 3P shooter with a chance of starting is SGA. But even Shai may not live up to Cal's strict defense and conditioning standards.

No Cam aint no starter. He's a better Willis, but man you gotta have at least one high volume, 40plus % 3pt shooter playing major mins and starting. I don't care what anyone says. And like I said above ^^^^. I feel Diallo will surprise everybody and shoot at a pretty high clip.
 
Who ever said Markelle Fultz couldn't shoot?

LMAO. Almost everybody. That was considered his biggest weakness.....3pt shooting. He just shot 41% at U-Dub. Also. Most people didn't realize how good of a 3pt shooter Monk would be either. The shooters in that class was Fergie, Guy, and Ball.
 
PJ washington starts.Richards sits. Bamba is a center point. Blank. period. Bam comes back he will be the 4.

FWIW, Cal is recruiting Bamba as a 4. His selling point is that we already have our 5, so Bambs can play the 4.

I think he may start at the 4 just because Cal will want to make good on his claim that Bamba can play the 4 for us.

If you don't think it can work, just remember WCS/KAT.

I agree, if Adebayo comes back and Bamba still comes, then Bam and Bamba start together.
 
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Didn't he shoot about 19% from 3 during the Nike games?I just hope he can be respectable from 3.
It was something terrible like that. I mean how many guys have we had over the past few years shoot 40%? Yet for some reason people think a guy that isn't a good shooter is just going to walk in and improve that much in the off season.
 
Bashing UK players at the end ruined your post. No need for that.

I'm just being real bro. I'm the biggest UK fan you'll see. I'd rather break both my legs than us lose in the tourney, but you gotta be real. Tai will probably never be any count whatsoever, I mean we seen him play a little this year. I'll be 100% real and say what I feel, and what I feel is I hope he transfers to open up another scholly as we'll have a handful of kids returning next year most likely.
 
It was something terrible like that. I mean how many guys have we had over the past few years shoot 40%? Yet for some reason people think a guy that isn't a good shooter is just going to walk in and improve that much in the off season.

Who have we had shoot 40% from 3? LMAO. Come on cuz. Lamb, Booker, Ulis his frosh year, Murray, Monk, Willis (Jr year), Wiltjer, and didn't Knight? And who else? Know there's 2-3 more. Maybe Darius one year? Hell even Poy did his frosh year. But the bottom line is Hami is a superstar who knows he's not known for being a great shooter. He's been working on his shot non stop, and has a really good looking stroke. He's gonna get better and better and better, and I'd bet anything he shoots at a high clip next season.

You cant pay that much attention to AAU or even HS shooting stats. Like I said people didn't think Monk would shoot 40%. Markell Fultz only main weakness was 3pt shooting. He shot 41 at U-Dub this year. Doran Lamb wasn't expected to be a great 3pt shooter. But a lot of guys shoot a higher % in college than in HS.
 
Tai is an "A" student. Would you like to see scholarships taken away from us.

Have you seen what Tai's father can do with an axe?
 
Tai is an "A" student. Would you like to see scholarships taken away from us.

Have you seen what Tai's father can do with an axe?

I care about what they can do on the court. I mean if he's gonna be our 13th guy you know cool, but he's never gonna contribute.
 
Who have we had shoot 40% from 3? LMAO. Come on cuz. Lamb, Booker, Ulis his frosh year, Murray, Monk, Willis (Jr year), Wiltjer, and didn't Knight? And who else? Know there's 2-3 more. Maybe Darius one year? Hell even Poy did his frosh year. But the bottom line is Hami is a superstar who knows he's not known for being a great shooter. He's been working on his shot non stop, and has a really good looking stroke. He's gonna get better and better and better, and I'd bet anything he shoots at a high clip next season.

You cant pay that much attention to AAU or even HS shooting stats. Like I said people didn't think Monk would shoot 40%. Markell Fultz only main weakness was 3pt shooting. He shot 41 at U-Dub this year. Doran Lamb wasn't expected to be a great 3pt shooter. But a lot of guys shoot a higher % in college than in HS.
So 7 maybe 8 since Cal has been here, yet you think one of the worst 2 guards at shooting the 3, that Cal has recruited will shoot 40%. I mean he's a great player just not a 3pt shooter.
 
FWIW, Cal is recruiting Bamba as a 4. His selling point is that we already have our 5, so Bambs can play the 4.

I think he may start at the 4 just because Cal will want to make good on his claim that Bamba can play the 4 for us.

If you don't think it can work, just remember WCS/KAT.

I agree, if Adebayo comes back and Bamba still comes, then Bam and Bamba start together.
Wcs could shoot, or at least hit at the elbow.
Bamba is nothing but a dunker. Bam is a better shooter. Bamba is a shot blocking dunk machine.
 
FWIW, Cal is recruiting Bamba as a 4. His selling point is that we already have our 5, so Bambs can play the 4.

I think he may start at the 4 just because Cal will want to make good on his claim that Bamba can play the 4 for us.

If you don't think it can work, just remember WCS/KAT.

I agree, if Adebayo comes back and Bamba still comes, then Bam and Bamba start together.

But I'm sure anything can happen and I don't doubt what you say. Position less.
 
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