A pretty good read on how some of the middle men served jail time for something that may not have even been a crime while Kansas acts like they did nothing wrong despite evidence they were paying players.
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Writer rips the NCAA and Kansas a new one.
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Anyone who actually follows college sports can see it’s a sham. Rules are not evenly applied, they are applied based on the school or coach. College sports is a big business, and certain schools are protected at all costs (and sometimes gifted a title for their troubles).
It truly is incredible that they have all those phone recordings and evidence, and still nothing from the NCAA. I hope Merl Code gets a sit down interview with a major network and lays everything out there on the line. He served prison time for KU. Let's expose them further. KU ruined this dude's life.
“My career has been obliterated, my reputation has been obliterated,” Code told me. “I lost my freedom, I’m a convicted felon. All because I did what I was told to do.”
“My career has been obliterated, my reputation has been obliterated,” Code told me. “I lost my freedom, I’m a convicted felon. All because I did what I was told to do.”
Sure wasn't true for UK basketball in the 80s and football in early 2000s. Seems like a different world back then.
Of course Duke, UNCheat and Kansas could cheat out in the open while the rest of us peons were slapped down.
Corrupt as hell.
Yet, their fans come on here and state emphatically how the staff did nothing wrong. At all. Whatsoever. Just absolutely amazing mental gymnastics their fans perform in explaining Kansas’ innocence in the matter. Surprised they haven’t twisted themselves into a pretzel yet. 🤦♂️
Some of us are old enough to remember when UNC-Cheats fans lorded over on everyone else about how dignified and honorable their program was, and how there was something a cut above about the "Carolina Way." That's completely destroyed. Anyone who follows the sport at all knows they have been rampant cheaters for decades. Yeah, they skated. But a destroyed reputation is an indelible stain.
I mention that because it is exactly the same with Kansas. Everyone knows Self is a liar and a cheater. Everyone knows he got cited for "loss of institutional control" for running a shabby, fraudulent program. And everyone especially knows that he recruits the likes of Arterio Morris and Carlton Bragg and Josh Jackson and Lagerald VIck and Silvio DeSousa because he doesn't care at all about character.
They got a slap on the wrist, but everyone knows who they are. They won't live it down til long after Self is gone.
I mention that because it is exactly the same with Kansas. Everyone knows Self is a liar and a cheater. Everyone knows he got cited for "loss of institutional control" for running a shabby, fraudulent program. And everyone especially knows that he recruits the likes of Arterio Morris and Carlton Bragg and Josh Jackson and Lagerald VIck and Silvio DeSousa because he doesn't care at all about character.
They got a slap on the wrist, but everyone knows who they are. They won't live it down til long after Self is gone.
“I have the phone call with Kurt where he says he’ll pay for Zion Williamson,” Code said. “Kansas can say they don’t know all day long, but that’s not the truth.”
Pretty much like the LSU coach saying he made a “strong ass offer”.
It's all maddening, sickening, disgusting, revolting, nauseating, exasperating, frustrating, aggravating and any other annoying "ing" words you can think of.
UNC ,Duke and KU all broke "rules" in historic and monumental proportions. They did so for extended periods of time and on a massive scale. It is what it is and nothing changes things. The NCAA is a joke and I hope NIL destroys it. Maybe enough writers will do articles to embarrass the NCAA into extinction.
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And non UK fans bitch about Cal and his "cheating"... this is just crazy.
Surely no reasonable person would conclude Zion turned down free money from KU to play for free at Dook
Well there was that 500 win basketball, that is some serious stuff
So either you’re saying Duke outbid Kansas or you’re saying Townsend didn’t offer to pay for Zion. Which is it?
Well if it’s on tape then it happened. But until the tape is heard……. It’s all hearsay.
According to the NCAA even hearing isn't believing.
Judge Judy is way smarter than the NCAA
Don't forget Sherron Collins.
Rozelle just laid down and said anything you find on us we did it! Just the opposite of what all these other programs do. Best thing to do is not co operate and lawyer up. It’s the “Carolina Way”!!
Let’s suppose it’s the former. Dook simply outbid Kansas. In that case why would Kansas be punished for what Dook actually carried out?
What sense would that make
The act of making the bid was supposed to be a major infraction in itself.
Like I posted on here the years since it all first came out - you had to know they weren't going to do anything to these schools. They literally had the strongest enforcement case in NCAA history, complete with FBI investigations, plea deals, trials, etc under oath.
If they ever had intention of doing the right thing, it would've been done all those years ago. When they started delaying - I knew they had intention of levying actual punishment
If they ever had intention of doing the right thing, it would've been done all those years ago. When they started delaying - I knew they had intention of levying actual punishment
People say believe half of what you see;
some or none of what you hear.
I can't help but feel confused;
If it's true won't you tell me Bill.
Do you respect yourself and other schools,
Or do your flunkies break all the rules.
Oooh oooh I heard it through a taped line.
Outbid dook for zion and self'll be fine.
Oooh oooh I heard it through the grapevine;
Gotta pace UK, they're chasing nine.
Oooh Oooh, I heard it through the grapevine.....
One thing that becomes clear from reading that story is that Duke deserves to be hammered all the way to the stone ages. Of course, they weren't even wire tapped so that way we can never know of their cheating.
Anyone with a functioning brain can see that the NCAA plays favorites, and sadly some in the media follow suit as well.
The same sense as trying to commit a murder. You still get jail time even though you were too much of a dumbass to succeed in your mission. There are a lot of important parallels in this analogy for KU, actually.
When anyone, especially a donor or coach, associated with the school is out offering money to play it was considered a "lack of institutional control" unless you are Kansas, Duke and UNC and then it was fair game.
The same sense as trying to commit a murder. You still get jail time even though you were too much of a dumbass to succeed in your mission. There are a lot of important parallels in this analogy for KU, actually.
Sorry that makes no sense. This wasn’t “murder”. It’s more akin to me texting a co-worker that I’m going to steal another’s purse but I never do. The guy who did would be charged with theft not me.
Ok, but you’re still not explaining why Kansas would need to take the fall for Dook when they were the ones who obv paid Zion.
Nobody here wants to explain this. Or why the NCAA should’ve punished us for Dook’s crime
He didn’t dumb ass even someone as stupid as a Jailhawk could see the place where Zion and his parents were given and the money was just better than what the Rug Doctor and Kansas offered
Because everybody knows that zion was just the most expensive recruit you went after that year, and got out-bid. You didn't throw an 0-fer that recruiting cycle; just had to settle for less choice players. Your m.o. on recruiting was exposed. Adidas was buying players for you. I'm sure they still are
Since they weren’t punished at all for paying Zion, I think it would be unfair if Kansas took their punishment
Or when they say Zion's stepfather wants housing at whatever college he goes too. Then it comes out his family is staying at a million dollar home in the Durham suburbs.
The difference is that KU actually tried to steal the purse, and actually DID steal others. Guys are in jail for it, lol. I used the murder analogy because I thought it’d be more easily related to your players. Would rape have worked better???
Article was written by the same guy who wrote this.
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I honestly don't believe he cares that Kansas got off easy. Sounds like the real reason he's upset is because most of the fall guys in this scandal are black coaches and shoe reps.
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I honestly don't believe he cares that Kansas got off easy. Sounds like the real reason he's upset is because most of the fall guys in this scandal are black coaches and shoe reps.
Are you actually trying to say that they didn't do anything wrong?
Where in hell did you come up with that logic, which school are you a fan of?
I should have known better than try to explain the NCAA's lack of institutional control to a Kansas fan. It's normal life for your scumbag coach and program so you see it as normal.
Yes he definitely was more concerned with that than the fact Kansas got a slap on the wrist for what was exposed as the greatest systemic pay for play scandal in college sports.Article was written by the same guy who wrote this.
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I honestly don't believe he cares that Kansas got off easy. Sounds like the real reason he's upset is because most of the fall guys in this scandal are black coaches and shoe reps.
