Willis - an honest assessment

[LowCountryCat]

I liked what I saw from Willis yesterday. He was involved in the offense, and he showed effort. He also made some mistakes.

The good: He grabbed two rebounds, including taking one away from his own man. He could have had a putback if his own man hadn't blocked his shot. He had a steal as well, and fed the post 4 times very smoothly. He also showed effort and aggressiveness.

The bad: He stepped out of bounds with the ball before shooting, and he got lost on offense a couple of times.

He also had a charge but upon further review it was a 50/50 call that could have gone either way. I give him a thumbs up for that move because he beat his man on the perimeter and was aggressively trying to go to the basket AGAINST A ZONE rather than just jack up a three. The defender jumped in front of him and he got the charge - bad luck in my view, because the ref could have just as easily called a block.

The takeaway: Overall Willis contributed. He just hasn't had enough competitive minutes this season to work out the jitters. He has skills and is definitely a serviceable player if anyone goes down or gets pulled. We won't miss much when he's in the game. His mistakes are due to lack of experience. I've seen Aaron and Andrew play terrible but they continue to get minutes - my point is not that Willis should play instead of them, but rather that Willis should not be judged solely on the things he does not do well.

He has skills that are useful and he is a UK Wildcat and I like to see him in the game. I see no reason why he could not come in when the game is out of reach with 5 minutes to go in ANY game. One could also argue that putting him in reduces the risk of another player getting injured needlessly.

Cal is the coach and I defer to his expertise and experience. My opinion of Willis does not change my opinion of Cal, and vice versa.

 

[Havek]

I think Willis has potential, but I don't really expect him to seriously contribute for another year or two.

To be fair what we have seen of him is very limited, but what do you expect for the 12th man.

^ Champagne Problems.

 

[CoachR35]

Originally posted by Prime MF:

I liked what I saw from Willis yesterday. He was involved in the offense, and he showed effort. He also made some mistakes.

The good: He grabbed two rebounds, including taking one away from his own man. He could have had a putback if his own man hadn't blocked his shot. He had a steal as well, and fed the post 4 times very smoothly. He also showed effort and aggressiveness.

The bad: He stepped out of bounds with the ball before shooting, and he got lost on offense a couple of times.

He also had a charge but upon further review it was a 50/50 call that could have gone either way. I give him a thumbs up for that move because he beat his man on the perimeter and was aggressively trying to go to the basket AGAINST A ZONE rather than just jack up a three. The defender jumped in front of him and he got the charge - bad luck in my view, because the ref could have just as easily called a block.

The takeaway: Overall Willis contributed. He just hasn't had enough competitive minutes this season to work out the jitters. He has skills and is definitely a serviceable player if anyone goes down or gets pulled. We won't miss much when he's in the game. His mistakes are due to lack of experience. I've seen Aaron and Andrew play terrible but they continue to get minutes - my point is not that Willis should play instead of them, but rather that Willis should not be judged solely on the things he does not do well.

He has skills that are useful and he is a UK Wildcat and I like to see him in the game. I see no reason why he could not come in when the game is out of reach with 5 minutes to go in ANY game. One could also argue that putting him in reduces the risk of another player getting injured needlessly.

Cal is the coach and I defer to his expertise and experience. My opinion of Willis does not change my opinion of Cal, and vice versa.

I think your assessment of Willis' performance yesterday is spot on. It will be hard for Cal to find minutes for him because he's still trying to keep his starters happy by giving them as many minutes as possible while staying with his platoon strategy.

I do think he could insert Willis in selective spots (if needed) that would not hinder the team. I agree that his confidence and performance will only improve with more playing time. He's just playing with arguably the most talent ever assembled on one team, which makes playing time a commodity.

 

[Graves51]

I agree that Willis did not hurt the team with his effort against Alabama. No more than he has played lately I thought he blended well with his team mates!

 

[WildMoon]

While jitters is definitely part of it. Willis has tendency to turn the ball over a lot. This was shown in Bahamas tour as well. He was third behind Ulis and Andrew, but both of them had exponentially more assists.

He needs to stop forcing the issue at times, and i think that charge was also the case where he forced the issue.

I think he's shown enough that when we do have a blow out tho, he deserve more minutes then 1-2 minutes. Not because of this year but for future. At least that's why i believe.

He can make the threes, and i think that always make fans happy.

In general and very vague comment is that he needs more polish. In my opinion.

 

[UK90]

Originally posted by Prime MF:

The good: He grabbed two rebounds, including taking one away from his own man.

Willis had only one rebound, not two. But he did commit two turnovers, two personal fouls and missed both of his shot attempts.

I swear, some of our fans have such a low bar for player's of Derek's "demographic" background. If they do ANYTHING good, even if it's just one thing in the middle of several bad things, they get threads started about how well they played.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Originally posted by UK90:

Originally posted by Prime MF:

The good: He grabbed two rebounds, including taking one away from his own man.

Willis had only one rebound, not two. But he did commit two turnovers, two personal fouls and missed both of his shot attempts.

I swear, some of our fans have such a low bar for player's of Derek's "demographic" background. If they do ANYTHING good, even if it's just one thing in the middle of several bad things, they get threads started about how well they played.

He was only credited with one rebound, but I'll rewind the tape and prove it if I have to - he got a rebound off a free throw as well when he tipped it to Harrison. That's making a play. I give him credit for that and he should have gotten the board because it was a full hand directed tip pass, not a lucky finger tip.

Funny how you complain about a thread praising Willis, but you didn't bother to object to Samwise's thread bashing Willis yesterday. I guess your agenda is clear.

This post was edited on 1/18 10:03 AM by Prime MF

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

I don't think he added or took anything away during his time in, so right now I don't see anyone else's minutes that he should take. He was pretty weak with the ball tho, so of those soft passes don't get through with a more agressive team.

He'l get a chance to play, just right now isn't it.

Also always funny when Prime comments on him. When he hits a 3 against the other teams end of the bench in a blowout, there's a claim he needs to play. Then when he gets in real minutes and his impact is indifferent, it's well he just needs to be in more to get comfortable. In other words no matter what happens you'll need to find a reason to fit your agenda why you want a white kid from KY to play.

He has potential, and I hope to see him do well. He's just not a necessity at this time or gives a huge benefit taking someone else's minutes.

 

[BlueCat43]

Originally posted by UK90:

Originally posted by Prime MF:

Funny how you complain about a thread praising Willis, but you didn't bother to object to Samwise's thread bashing Willis yesterday. I guess your agenda is clear.

I'm not even sure what Samwise thread you're talking about, I must've missed it.

And I don't think I have any "agenda" here other than pointing out a rather obvious pattern this board has become notorious for over the years. Out of curiosity, can you name me any other examples where multiple threads were started to praise the performance of a player who went scoreless on 0 for 2 shooting, had 1 rebound, zero assists, 2 fouls and 2 turnovers?

Hint, you can find em, but you might have to back in the archives a few years, because that's the sort of thing that only happens here when the kid having that game is someone like Willis, Hood, Carter, Carrier, Blevins, etc.

I have to say that I did think Willis did well considering the limited minutes he has had. It doesn't matter what his "demographic" is, it is nice, at least to me, see a guy that nobody expects to contribute much come in and play well. That is not to say that he played as well as his teammates and nobody should expect that of him. He did, however, come in and play with energy.

 

[etowncatfan]

Willis feeds the post better than anyone on the team IMO. We will need his experience next year.

 

[BostonCat2001]

12th man, its the 12th freaking man....i actually hope he transfers. because next year when he doesnt play the amount of these threads will grow exponentially.

 

[JerseyCat84]

Originally posted by BostonCat2001:
12th man, its the 12th freaking man....i actually hope he transfers. because next year when he doesnt play the amount of these threads will grow exponentially.

11th man actually now that Poy is done for the season.

 

[mdlUK.1]

Wow, it is hard to explain or accept the animosity some of you have for Willis. No one in any of the many Willis threads have claimed he should get major pt.

He DOES have talent and should help us next year when we are once again young and he will be an upper classman. But an upper classman with little experience won't help much. That is why I want him to get a little pt.

I found it odd that he got early pt yesterday but got almost none in a 50 point blow out.

This post was edited on 1/18 10:37 AM by mdlUK.1

 

[anon_013cn8yrfncx2]

Name one player on the team that hasn't had a similar stretch where he played (what some are describing as) poorly.

The thing for me is I don't worry when Willis comes in. He looks like he belongs even if he's not as good as the others.

Cal thot he did OK but of course Cal doesn't know as much as a lot of our posters.

 

[Catzman]

Boston Cat-what do you think would be Cal's or any of Willis's teammates response to your declaration about Willis being the 12th man and YOU hope he transfers-just sayin. He is an important part of the team whether some of us think so or not. -- Catzman

 

[UK HEMINGWAY]

I think he will be ok to play in games when we get up 20, that way he can play through some mistakes. I keep thinking that he should be out there but then he looks so frazzled all the time. He needs to just slow down. Shoot open shots, pass to the open man, stay in front of your man defensively, rebound balls in your area. Simple stuff.

 

[K-Town Kat]

Liked what I saw yesterday from him. He had a bunny putback he missed and stepped on the sideline once, but I'm sure jitters were there.

He's really long and athletic. He just HAS to get stronger. Kid looks like he goes hungry.

 

[BostonCat2001]

Originally posted by Catzman:
Boston Cat-what do you think would be Cal's or any of Willis's teammates response to your declaration about Willis being the 12th man and YOU hope he transfers-just sayin. He is an important part of the team whether some of us think so or not. -- Catzman

no matter how many times you say it....he isnt that important to the team. he just isnt. cal sticks up for his players....any good coach would. but it would have almost zero impact to the team/program going forward.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Originally posted by UK90:

Originally posted by Prime MF:

The good: He grabbed two rebounds, including taking one away from his own man.

Willis had only one rebound, not two. But he did commit two turnovers, two personal fouls and missed both of his shot attempts.

I swear, some of our fans have such a low bar for player's of Derek's "demographic" background. If they do ANYTHING good, even if it's just one thing in the middle of several bad things, they get threads started about how well they played.

Fuddy duddy much? Jeez, the guy makes a positive post about one our guys and you respond by pretty much dumping on both him and Willis? Nobody is saying he's a diamond in the rough, but you act like he can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Cal must have recruited him for a reason. Oh, it's not just posters here, or Cal being loyal to his guy either. Willis played pretty well in the Bahamas and Bilas and other commentators have said they think he can play for many teams. I don't think he will ever be a starter or get more than 10-15 mins a game, but he's not as bad as some people make him out to be.

This post was edited on 1/18 12:56 PM by SilentsAreGolden

 

[DUNNSTILLFREENALIVE]

we are probably losing lots to nba this year

Willis and Hawkins look to get more pt next year

As seniors we could see the two play key roles

They will have opportunity to prove themselves

 

[KentuckyWildcat4Life]

Originally posted by BostonCat2001:
12th man, its the 12th freaking man....i actually hope he transfers. because next year when he doesnt play the amount of these threads will grow exponentially.

I hope you transfer out of this forum along with the rest of you posing troll so called UK fans. Willis is a Kentucky Wildcat. A member of our program. A valuable part of our team in many many ways.
What do you contribute to Kentucky as a fan except for your constant disrespect towards our players? You as well as others here needs to stop your trolling transfer crap because all its doing is proving you are no more than a hater troll.
Like I mentioned above, transfer your fan card to a program like Louisville. Their fan base is just like your attitude and you should fit right in.
Wanting Willis to transfer......

 

[Samwise Ganjee]

This thread, and most of the Willis threads ever posted on here, remind me of that map where New York City (in big, bold letters) is in the foreground, is drawn in detail with all the sky-scrapers and bridges, and the suburbs receding into the distance, and the west coast is on the horizon with a big gap in the middle where the name "Chicago" is stuck in small letters

We have some incredibly Willis-centric fans

If only coach would put Derek in blah blah blah, Derek can do that if Cal played him more blah blah blah, Derek would have whatever if he had been on the court blah blah blah...as though it's Cal's responsiblity to find PT for poor Derek

I watched the same game and on three consecutive possessions it was

Nearly air-ball a shotStep out of boundsGet lost on a pick n roll
Later in the game it was

ChargeFoul on a fakeFoul on a rebound and get away with it
I want to see every player succeed, including Derek Willis, without having to make excuses like "Oh, that foul coulda' gone either way" or "Everybody makes mistakes" or "The sideline stripe moved!"

Or my favorite of all: Blame it on the twins!!!

Derek Willis is not ready for prime time. Maybe he will get there, eventually...that's up to him and Cal. And I did notice that Cal made a point to put a positive spin on Willis' performance, even though it was dreadful; and that's why Cal is a brilliant, multi-jillionaire coach and I am not. But I personally, as a fan watching, haven't seen anything from him that warrants any more than mop-up minutes

Sorry, Derek, but you aren't there yet


This post was edited on 1/18 1:17 PM by Samwise Ganjee

 

[Xception]

He played 5 minutes and only 3.5 of that with the primary group . In that span he had a charge , stepped out of bounds , missed from 3 feet and got lost on defense twice to which resulted in some points for the opponent . That's not good in any realm but this one , let Andrew have a stretch like that and let's see if it is considered good . Be honest and tell me that if Andrew had drove the lane the same way it would not be called out of control or selfish .

If you extrapolate Willis performance out then it would have a negative impact for our team . Give Willis more minutes and how many times does he get lost on defense , the other team will prey on that . The primary players switch on defense very well and it's why we are a monster on defense , Willis breaks that down because he doesn't switch sometimes and it results in a wide open payer for them .

Cal calling that time good is a head game tactic , if it was good then he would have gotten more than 3.5 minutes of run . Willis is fine he is just not ready yet , his confidence is not there yet and more time of bad plays won't fix that . He might contribute some next year but any call for his role to be expanded is done for reasons other than performance .

 

[StubbornPenny]

He's a normal soph, and if he stays will be a very good player by his senior year.

 

[anon_hvdd36eg5u05l]

Originally posted by mdlUK.1:
Wow, it is hard to explain or accept the animosity some of you have for Willis. No one in any of the many Willis threads have claimed he should get major pt.

He DOES have talent and should help us next year when we are once again young and he will be an upper classman. But an upper classman with little experience won't help much. That is why I want him to get a little pt.

I found it odd that he got early pt yesterday but got almost none in a 50 point blow out.

This post was edited on 1/18 10:37 AM by mdlUK.1

It's actually pretty obvious. No one has "animosity" towards Willis. I certainly don't. What causes the clash on this board is why people feel sooooo passionately about a mop up duty guy. Why????

 

[SacramentoKat]

Not sure why some of you havent figured out that you do not get more minutes in Cal's system as you get older. If Willis gets more PT next year, it is because we had recruiting losses. Willis would serve himself well by transferring out ahla Wiljer.

 

[blubo]

willis will be a big contributor before he leaves uk. i think he looks fine in the limited times he's seen the floor. it's hard to assess a player when he only gets in a game now and then, and then for five minutes or less. i hope he stays for two more years.

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

Originally posted by SacramentoKat:
Not sure why some of you havent figured out that you do not get more minutes in Cal's system as you get older. If Willis gets more PT next year, it is because we had recruiting losses. Willis would serve himself well by transferring out ahla Wiljer.

What makes you think he'll play if he transfers. He would serve himself by getting better.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Originally posted by Samwise Ganjee:
This thread, and most of the Willis threads ever posted on here, remind me of that map where New York City (in big, bold letters) is in the foreground, is drawn in detail with all the sky-scrapers and bridges, and the suburbs receding into the distance, and the west coast is on the horizon with a big gap in the middle where the name "Chicago" is stuck in small letters

We have some incredibly Willis-centric fans

If only coach would put Derek in blah blah blah, Derek can do that if Cal played him more blah blah blah, Derek would have whatever if he had been on the court blah blah blah...as though it's Cal's responsiblity to find PT for poor Derek

I watched the same game and on three consecutive possessions it was



Nearly air-ball a shot
Step out of bounds
Get lost on a pick n roll
Later in the game it was



Charge
Foul on a fake
Foul on a rebound and get away with it
I want to see every player succeed, including Derek Willis, without having to make excuses like "Oh, that foul coulda' gone either way" or "Everybody makes mistakes" or "The sideline stripe moved!"

Or my favorite of all: Blame it on the twins!!!

Derek Willis is not ready for prime time. Maybe he will get there, eventually...that's up to him and Cal. And I did notice that Cal made a point to put a positive spin on Willis' performance, even though it was dreadful; and that's why Cal is a brilliant, multi-jillionaire coach and I am not. But I personally, as a fan watching, haven't seen anything from him that warrants any more than mop-up minutes


Sorry, Derek, but you aren't there yet


This post was edited on 1/18 1:17 PM by Samwise Ganjee

Haha...there's not much truth in your post...and your thread yesterday was DELETED by the mods because you were sarcastically BASHING a player...you really need to get your fanhood checked.

The 'nearly airball' was BLOCKED by his own teammate, genius.
The step out of bounds was NOT the next consecutive play. He fed the post twice before that. Can you think of some players who go long periods without feeding the post? I can.
Get lost on a pick and roll - is this your best shot at bashing Willis? Really?
I already addressed the charge, you simply ignored what I said and reverted back to your post from yesterday WHICH WAS DELETED BY THE MODS.

I noticed you didn't mention his steal or his two rebounds or his aggressive play.
Hater.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Originally posted by Xception:
He played 5 minutes and only 3.5 of that with the primary group . In that span he had a charge , stepped out of bounds , missed from 3 feet and got lost on defense twice to which resulted in some points for the opponent . That's not good in any realm but this one , let Andrew have a stretch like that and let's see if it is considered good . Be honest and tell me that if Andrew had drove the lane the same way it would not be called out of control or selfish .

If you extrapolate Willis performance out then it would have a negative impact for our team . Give Willis more minutes and how many times does he get lost on defense , the other team will prey on that . The primary players switch on defense very well and it's why we are a monster on defense , Willis breaks that down because he doesn't switch sometimes and it results in a wide open payer for them .

Cal calling that time good is a head game tactic , if it was good then he would have gotten more than 3.5 minutes of run . Willis is fine he is just not ready yet , his confidence is not there yet and more time of bad plays won't fix that . He might contribute some next year but any call for his role to be expanded is done for reasons other than performance .

Why did you not mention his rebounds and his steal? Are you only focused on the negative things he does? If that's true, how do you manage to grit your teeth when watching the twins? Oh, that's right - you don't think of Willis as an actual member of the team, is that it?

 

[UK90]

Originally posted by Xception:

That's not good in any realm but this one , let Andrew have a stretch like that and let's see if it is considered good . Be honest and tell me that if Andrew had drove the lane the same way it would not be called out of control or selfish .

.

No doubt. Derek was out of control and got beat to the spot by his defender on that charge. If someone like Andrew had made that play it would've been roundly bashed as a bad play on here. But when Willis does it, the OP describes that play by saying he gives it a "thumbs up" for "aggressively going to the basket" and says that the charging call was "bad luck in my view."

Look, I like Willis, and am cheering for him, but the transparent spin some posters here put on everything he (and past players like him) does can be SO laughably obvious that it's hard to resist the urge to call them out. Sorry, OP, that play wasn't just "bad luck", instead it was simply a bad play, which is precisely how you would've seen it if another player had done it.





This post was edited on 1/18 2:05 PM by UK90

 

[LowCountryCat]

Originally posted by UK90:

Originally posted by Xception:

That's not good in any realm but this one , let Andrew have a stretch like that and let's see if it is considered good . Be honest and tell me that if Andrew had drove the lane the same way it would not be called out of control or selfish .

.

No doubt. Derek was out of control and got beat to the spot by his defender on that charge. If someone like Andrew had made that play it would've been roundly bashed as a bad play on here. But when Willis does it, the OP describes that play by saying he gives it a "thumbs up" for "aggressively going to the basket" and says that the charging call was "bad luck in my view."

Look, I like Willis, and am cheering for him, but the transparent spin some posters here put on everything he (and past players like him) does can be SO laughably obvious that it's hard to resist the urge to call them out. Sorry, OP, that play wasn't just "bad luck", instead it was simply a bad play, which is precisely how you would've seen it if another player had done it.


This post was edited on 1/18 2:03 PM by UK90

Absolutely false and you know it. Questionable charges are bashed roundly and routinely on this board. You are simply rewriting history to push your lying agenda. You'd have preferred Willis to jack a three instead of going to the basket? Then you're an idiot. Players make bad plays and get outplayed by other players all the time, but your refusal to even list Willis' STATS in the game exposes your hater agenda for all to see.

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

Originally posted by Prime MF:

Originally posted by Samwise Ganjee:
This thread, and most of the Willis threads ever posted on here, remind me of that map where New York City (in big, bold letters) is in the foreground, is drawn in detail with all the sky-scrapers and bridges, and the suburbs receding into the distance, and the west coast is on the horizon with a big gap in the middle where the name "Chicago" is stuck in small letters

We have some incredibly Willis-centric fans

If only coach would put Derek in blah blah blah, Derek can do that if Cal played him more blah blah blah, Derek would have whatever if he had been on the court blah blah blah...as though it's Cal's responsiblity to find PT for poor Derek

I watched the same game and on three consecutive possessions it was



Nearly air-ball a shot Step out of bounds Get lost on a pick n roll
Later in the game it was



Charge Foul on a fake Foul on a rebound and get away with it
I want to see every player succeed, including Derek Willis, without having to make excuses like "Oh, that foul coulda' gone either way" or "Everybody makes mistakes" or "The sideline stripe moved!"

Or my favorite of all: Blame it on the twins!!!

Derek Willis is not ready for prime time. Maybe he will get there, eventually...that's up to him and Cal. And I did notice that Cal made a point to put a positive spin on Willis' performance, even though it was dreadful; and that's why Cal is a brilliant, multi-jillionaire coach and I am not. But I personally, as a fan watching, haven't seen anything from him that warrants any more than mop-up minutes


Sorry, Derek, but you aren't there yet


This post was edited on 1/18 1:17 PM by Samwise Ganjee

Haha...there's not much truth in your post...and your thread yesterday was DELETED by the mods because you were sarcastically BASHING a player...you really need to get your fanhood checked.

The 'nearly airball' was BLOCKED by his own teammate, genius.
The step out of bounds was NOT the next consecutive play. He fed the post twice before that. Can you think of some players who go long periods without feeding the post? I can.
Get lost on a pick and roll - is this your best shot at bashing Willis? Really?
I already addressed the charge, you simply ignored what I said and reverted back to your post from yesterday WHICH WAS DELETED BY THE MODS.

I noticed you didn't mention his steal or his two rebounds or his aggressive play.
Hater.

Why doesn't floreal play..notice that board. Why not Malone, did you see him dribble? Please...Willis isn't that great. You make an excuse for him no matter the case. If he hits a shot against scrubs in a blowout u say he should play more, if he plays real minutes and does nothing, u say it's bc he needs to get used to playing. Always something for your agenda. Put it this way...he wouldn't have started for alabama if he went there. He isn't strong enough with the ball.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Originally posted by BostonCat2001:
12th man, its the 12th freaking man....i actually hope he transfers. because next year when he doesnt play the amount of these threads will grow exponentially.

Good Lord, I wish you would transfer.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Originally posted by UKBrassowTipIN:

Originally posted by Prime MF:

Originally posted by Samwise Ganjee:
This thread, and most of the Willis threads ever posted on here, remind me of that map where New York City (in big, bold letters) is in the foreground, is drawn in detail with all the sky-scrapers and bridges, and the suburbs receding into the distance, and the west coast is on the horizon with a big gap in the middle where the name "Chicago" is stuck in small letters

We have some incredibly Willis-centric fans

If only coach would put Derek in blah blah blah, Derek can do that if Cal played him more blah blah blah, Derek would have whatever if he had been on the court blah blah blah...as though it's Cal's responsiblity to find PT for poor Derek

I watched the same game and on three consecutive possessions it was





Nearly air-ball a shot
Step out of bounds
Get lost on a pick n roll
Later in the game it was





Charge
Foul on a fake
Foul on a rebound and get away with it
I want to see every player succeed, including Derek Willis, without having to make excuses like "Oh, that foul coulda' gone either way" or "Everybody makes mistakes" or "The sideline stripe moved!"

Or my favorite of all: Blame it on the twins!!!

Derek Willis is not ready for prime time. Maybe he will get there, eventually...that's up to him and Cal. And I did notice that Cal made a point to put a positive spin on Willis' performance, even though it was dreadful; and that's why Cal is a brilliant, multi-jillionaire coach and I am not. But I personally, as a fan watching, haven't seen anything from him that warrants any more than mop-up minutes


Sorry, Derek, but you aren't there yet



This post was edited on 1/18 1:17 PM by Samwise Ganjee

Haha...there's not much truth in your post...and your thread yesterday was DELETED by the mods because you were sarcastically BASHING a player...you really need to get your fanhood checked.

The 'nearly airball' was BLOCKED by his own teammate, genius.
The step out of bounds was NOT the next consecutive play. He fed the post twice before that. Can you think of some players who go long periods without feeding the post? I can.
Get lost on a pick and roll - is this your best shot at bashing Willis? Really?
I already addressed the charge, you simply ignored what I said and reverted back to your post from yesterday WHICH WAS DELETED BY THE MODS.

I noticed you didn't mention his steal or his two rebounds or his aggressive play.
Hater.

Why doesn't floreal play..notice that board. Why not Malone, did you see him dribble? Please...Willis isn't that great. You make an excuse for him no matter the case. If he hits a shot against scrubs in a blowout u say he should play more, if he plays real minutes and does nothing, u say it's bc he needs to get used to playing. Always something for your agenda. Put it this way...he wouldn't have started for alabama if he went there. He isn't strong enough with the ball.

Really? What agenda, HATER? You are welcome, and I'll pay you $1,000 if you can do this, to show any post where I've advocated ANY other role for him other than fill-in minutes or mop up duty. Also, please show me where I've argued that Willis is 'that great.' I'll be waiting.

On the other hand, you and Samwise just get on here and bag on him for no reason other than to ridicule him. Agenda, indeed.

 

[Xception]

Originally posted by Prime MF:
Why did you not mention his rebounds and his steal? Are you only focused on the negative things he does? If that's true, how do you manage to grit your teeth when watching the twins? Oh, that's right - you don't think of Willis as an actual member of the team, is that it?

You are waxing on about the positives of a charge and most of the thread focused on a couple moments and glossed over any poor play . Some contrast was needed for it to be based in reality , nothing I said was inaccurate and that's why you didn't challenge any of it . Just remember the next time Andrew runs over a player that it's a good thing .

 

[Samwise Ganjee]

Originally posted by Prime MF:

Haha...there's not much truth in your post...and your thread yesterday was DELETED by the mods because you were sarcastically BASHING a player...you really need to get your fanhood checked.

Hater.

Oh! Pardon me!!

I thought that this thread was about Derek Willis, but in reality it is about me, Samwise the Great

I am sooooooo flattered

But truth be told, if it's about me, I prefer something stronger than words to settle it; and I carry two meat-hooks on the end of each arm to do just that

Meet me out behind the server, lil' boy, and daddy will serve your lunch to you

 

[Mojocat]

I like Willis and think he actually has some real talent - not your standard 11th/12th man for sure. He just happens to be behind several future draft picks on the most talent laden college team in quite some time. But he is the 11th man, and the attention he gets is curious. This isn't like the typical conversation around the backup quarterback - it's more like a lot of talk around the 5th string quarterback.....

 

[TY U 2 WCS 4 9]

I like Willis a lot, just like I like all he guys on this team. I did notice he didn't switch the pick and roll and if I noticed it then Cal was sure to have as well. I know everyone wants to see all of our guys succeed but its not like the staff has been some kind of "good 'ol boy" staff that picks their personal favorites to the detriment of others. Surely everyone can agree that there isn't a conspiracy or that Cal doesn't have evenhanded reasons for PT.

 

[EvilMD]

I wish people wouldn't take Willis for granted. He doesn't deserve to play ahead of anyone ahead of him that is getting those minutes. True. But he has skills that might save our ass in the NCAA. See: Marcus Lee last year or that little white kid for U of L who hit two threes against Wichita State.