Not when it comes to betting. Cats will be an underdog, and i cant believe thats debatable to some on here..
Will we beat #1 Kansas without 1 of our 3 seven footers?
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I don't bet on games because it ruins sports in my opinion.
I don’t think they are going to be bad or anything, and it won't suprise me to see us lose to them early in the year being that we are short-handed. However, I do think we have far more upside and should be able to take them to the wire at worst. It certainly should not be a blowout or anything. HD is vastly overrated.
I always believe we are going to win before any game. Doesn't matter what players we have available. Sometimes I'm disappointed.
Totally agree. And, I’m higher on him than most seem to be. But, it’ll be a cpl weeks minimum, if/after they return, before any of the bigs will really make a difference. The best we can hope for is that they come back before SEC play starts bc after a certain point they’ll be more likely to disrupt chemistry than they will to improve anything. Can’t just throw them into the rotation late in the season & expect a seamless transition. Either way, I’m beyond sick of the roster uncertainty year after year.
I agree with everything you said. But, at the same time, Mitchell presents a huge mismatch for HD, as well. He will be pulled outside, defensively, & forced to chase Mitchell around the perimeter. And, IMO, he’ll have a hard time keeping Mitchell in front of him on drives to the basket, too.
It could be a long night for him in that aspect, either getting fatigued or languishing in foul trouble, unless KU goes zone all game. But, like you said, if we are hitting 3s & able to spread the floor, they’ll be forced to abandon the zone & go M2M, leaving HD on an island. If we shoot it well, we have a good chance, IMO. But, if the shots aren’t falling I think it’ll be a LONG night.
They will win the big 12 again and go 25-6 and be a one seed, they may be a little overrated but they are still loaded and really good
I agree with you. But I also think that if a coach had a team like that, the very best thing he could do would be to hypnotize the opposing coach and make that guy refuse to play zone, refuse to even play garbage zone for even a moment, to keep him from taking advantage of that lack of outside shooting.
And then if the game was early in the season and that opposing coach had a whole lot of new players on his roster, especially young ones, the other thing to do would be to hypnotize him to make him instead play some kind of very complicated switching man-to-man defense that his kids could never learn in time for the game in question. So they’d be blowing assignments and running into each other left and right. Then the thing to do would be just ram the ball down their throats especially if you had a really mobile big who could run the floor really well and if you also had a size advantage.
I know that could never happen in the real world. I’m just saying; if you really could control other people’s thoughts at will and you really wanted to make an opposing beat himself instead of punishing you for not having any outside shooting. That’d be a perfect way to do it.
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Well, thats what the discussion was. It was about who'd be favorite, and preseason rankings sway bets and odds.
No. Cal's teams can't beat decent teams anymore.
Swept UT last year, and beat Kansas the year before by 20 or something...in Kansas. Are you this negative in real life?
Its November, take a vacation.
Kansas is not unbeatable. They lost this summer in exhibition play, they also lost against Illinois last weekend. This week they struggled against a D2 opponent and were out scored in the second half. Not sure why everyone thinks they’re the best college team in the history of the sport.
They are low one high 2 seed, self takes teams like this and wins the big 12 handily,
Who’s gonna score for this team? Their PG is definitely not a scorer or shooter. Their SF isn’t a scorer or shooter. Only backcourt guy that could possibly be a good scorer and shooter is that freshman. Then they have a big that will get eaten alive in P&R.
I think that the matchups down low favor Kansas right now. It is a shame we are dealing yet again with lineup uncertainty early. We may take some lumps getting everyone back and playing (hoping for the best).
If Reeves goes crazy from 3, and the guards have a hot shooting night anything is possible. We have to be committed to playing fast and spreading the court out.
If Reeves goes crazy from 3, and the guards have a hot shooting night anything is possible. We have to be committed to playing fast and spreading the court out.
Dickinson is 20 points per game, Timberlake will start hitting shots, the freshman Jackson will probably step up, McCullers will get them 10-12 every game, the pg isn’t a scorer but can get you some every now and then, Adams is a energy guy, but how many times since 2010 has self had a bad team? The answer is none, his worst seed is a 4 seed. They will be good, they always are
Exactly. HD has the same weaknesses Oscar had on the defensive end. Whoever he ends up guarding on the perimeter will have a huge advantage.
You play the game the same way we played OSU in 2011. Guard Sullinger/Dickenson straight up and make
Him finish over the top….active hands and swarm the perimeter to take away any wide open kickouts. I’d HD can go for 50+ so be it but what gets you beat is putting too much emphasis and doubling down getting out of position only for HD tk go for 20+ anyways but now you also gave up 5-9 open threes as a direct result and a multitude of open weak side putbacks.
JMO, but with today's portal where talent has become spread pretty equal among the top teams it now comes down to coaching. We know where they stand with coaching and most know where we stand.
Problem is with no shooters, you can easily double down on HD without having to worry about getting out on outside shooters. Bill Self can’t make shots for them. They’ll be decent, I’m sure. Dominant? Not hardly.
OKay, Cal's teams are inconstant since he suffered mental problems by not going 40-0 in '15.
Kansas didn’t show anything in these game, just let them play, I promise you Kansas will be a lot better when the play Kentucky. Now Kentucky can still beat them either way, I’m just not expecting it
So you think having Z makes Vegas think UK is even with the #1 team in the country?? Ku -5
"Will we beat #1 Kansas without 1 of our 3 seven footers?"
There is no way we beat Kansas early in the season with the entirety of this roster.
However, and hopefully, by February, it's a different story.
There is no way we beat Kansas early in the season with the entirety of this roster.
However, and hopefully, by February, it's a different story.
Well.. they shot 69.6 % (56.5% from three [26 attempts]) tonight.
Mccullar: 4-7
Dickinson: 3-3
Furphy: 2-4
Timberlake: 3-4
IF, and a big IF, Cal takes a page from what teams did to us the last two years, we will beat Kansas. They don't shoot well and 2 of their main 5 aren't shooters. PG is a facilitator and little more. SF good D but not a scorer. I'm trusting Welch to be like Robic was and help us gameplan for this.
Remember if someone small and athletic has to guard HD, he has to guard them on the other end. It's a mismatch both ways. Put him in the PnR all night. Iso him 1-1 with Edwards. Wear him out and pull away late.
Remember this guy couldn't get Michigan in to the tournament with two first rounders playing with him last year. He is a stat-stuffer for sure and good. But is he a winner?
We announce to college basketball we are back next week.
Remember if someone small and athletic has to guard HD, he has to guard them on the other end. It's a mismatch both ways. Put him in the PnR all night. Iso him 1-1 with Edwards. Wear him out and pull away late.
Remember this guy couldn't get Michigan in to the tournament with two first rounders playing with him last year. He is a stat-stuffer for sure and good. But is he a winner?
We announce to college basketball we are back next week.
If Thiero is hurt.. what else can you say? We will be down 4 guys, and 4 of our 5 best "bigs". It's going to be hard enough to beat ANY top50 team when you're without that kind of talent.
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