Will kentucky fire mark stoops and hire jon sumrall
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Well, he would need Elly de la Cruz to bat .400, with 100 homers, and 200 stolen bases before he stops demanding his demotion to AAA.
So you want to stay, with a deadbeat coach, that can t coach that makes a hell of alot sense . I will take my chances with sumrall .
If I was a Georgia fan, which he is, I'd absolutely vouch for an opponent to keep a 0 and 12 coach against my team.
Hire Sumrall as head coach & he could bring in former wildcat Neal Brown who is now available to be our offensive coordinator. Sounds good to me.
Maybe he was but his team improved until he went to a P5 school. Sumrall to UK is great if that's what is decided. But a ton of difference coaching against whatever conference Troy and Tulane are in than the SEC. But there are precedents each way, Frost as a negative and Chumlee at UT as a positive. Looks like Napier is getting another year, which surprised me is going to get things turned. I have said multiple times I think Sumrall checks all the boxes and looks to be a low risk guy, but getting in the playoff the first couple of years is a tall order in the SEC because of the amount of NIL some schools can produce. Recruiting has gotten away from relationships and development to how much you going to give me. Pre NIL Kirby was best recruiter in college ball, but without NIL we won't break top 50. At least 6 teams in SEC are spending 20m+ NIL, Texas, ATM, Bama, AU, UT, UGA, UF, OM. If a team isn't prepared to jump into that NIL bracket a playoff spot isn't likely with Nick Saban as your coach and the big reason he retired. UK is my number 2 team, I want them to be successful, being excited about the season is great, but any new coach entering the SEC is entering a meat grinder.
Expectations set that have small chance to be met aren't good for anyone. Just look at BV, expectations were through the roof because he is a former 5* from UGA,
Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part but the difference with Sumrall is his defensive background with the understanding that you have to have offense too. Previous flops, Frost, Fuentas, Malzahn, etc were O guys first and foremost that failed on the D side. (I'm not sold on Chumlee, ask back in a couple of years. They've been extremely fortunate the past couple of years thanks in large part to an unbelievably favorite schedule. That luck is bound to end at some point). Anyway, Sumrall's D could make a difference.
Why not? If he's really loyal to UK it shouldn't matter. You think if pope went to some mid level acc basketball job he wouldn't leave for UK in 3 years?
And are you seriously stating he will take UK or unc to the playoff every season? Delusional my friend. Do you watch football?
Believe it or not, Frost was a Defensive Coordinator on a team that made the FCS playoff semifinals before he moved to coaching the offensive side of the ball at Oregon.
Big, raw boned boy. Seems I recall Frost running rough-shod over TN in a Cotton Bowl or some such.
Frost threw the shot put over 61 feet in HS, pretty good toss for a QB.
Exactly, he may be a great coach one day. Right now he’s unproven on the level of SEC bottom feeder school.
Another hot trendy pick that UK fans must’ve already forgot about was BILLY CLYDE GILLESPIE.
He was the best of the best and the HOT coach.
We saw what happened
Exactly if I was a high paying booster I wouldn’t want my millions going to have to pay for a joke like Stoops to go away. If I had to front that kind of money my next thing in line would be to make sure Mitch didn’t have a job!
I also said that in another thread Brown would thrive under Sumrall. Brown didn’t thrive under Stoops because well neither has the other 6 offensive coordinators!
Damn you're moving way up the bench with this post kywildcat you're now in my top 5 posters great job 👍
Man I’m so pissed right now…. I’m about the same way I was at the end of the Cal tenure. These contracts are just insane and I can’t believe they keep signing these coaches to these ridiculous contracts and then they just quit working after they get them! It’s like Mitch never learns his damn lesson! He just keeps signing away any damn leverage the school can have!
Dry ridge Corinth or Williamstown? I use to deliver to dry ridge wal mart
Dry Ridge. That Walmart is a damn whole in the wall now but heck most of them in a 30 miles radius are.
To the OP....as it stands now Kentucky will not fure Mark Stoops. If Sumrall steps up it will be at another school. I read rumors of North Carolina.
I still think Stoops won't be the UK coach next year. Don't know how it will go down but I don't think he wants to be here and I know the fans don't want him here. I would guess Mitch approaches him much like Stoops approached his buddy Gran. Hey coach, it's gonna get very ugly if you are here next year, our recruiting and our $$ are gonna fall off big time.
Now of course the issue would be the money Stoops is owed but, if he doesn't want the job he would be agreeable to a negotiated settlement with terms better than the contract calls for. I think by next week, after signing day, there will be an announcement. if not then we will just have to live with the fact that he is what we have and if you wanta let it make you miserable be my guest but I am not living that way!
Now of course the issue would be the money Stoops is owed but, if he doesn't want the job he would be agreeable to a negotiated settlement with terms better than the contract calls for. I think by next week, after signing day, there will be an announcement. if not then we will just have to live with the fact that he is what we have and if you wanta let it make you miserable be my guest but I am not living that way!
Some people keep saying we need a proven coach. Who do you have in mind that would come to UK?
The two programs that we have really compared ourselves to in conference in recent years are Mizzou and USC. Both those teams just went 9-3 with a coach that came from Appalachian State and another who was the TE coach at Oklahoma…that’s pretty unproven.
Beamer is a clown, he is 9-3 because he lucked into the most dangerous young QB in the SEC. Would you really want beamer as your coach?
I’m not saying that at all. Some people keep talking about wanting a proven coach and that guys without experience aren’t made for this job. I just gave a couple examples of guys with no major coaching experience having success. There are a lot more. There are also examples of guys failing.
I’ve said it over and over again. There is no magic formula to picking the right guy. Some guys succeed and some guys don’t. But to discount Sumrall because he’s been at Troy and Tulane is very short sited.
All I ever ask is for examples. Give me examples of proven guys at the P4 level that would come here. Every time I ask for examples, I never get any.
Maybe there are, but who might they be?
Mitch knows about the Stoops off field antics. He is sick of it and now pile on the losing… you are right, it’s a money decision and only a money decision now.
Our president does not seem to care about sports except basketball. I can't understand how basketball can receive more school support than football at any school in AMERICA. Basketball is a second tier sport. I know Kentucky lovs basketball but it is still a second tier sport. Football pays for everything.
True but UK is one of a few where basketball is self sustainable and pays its own way it doesn’t need football. Tell you what needs football is all the other sports! I’m not knocking football because I love UK in all sports!
You answered that question for me, you compared us to Mizzo and USC which is fair.
Stoops has won 8-9-10 games at UK. He’s proven, that’s who.
No this season wasn’t pretty but we had our chances. Let’s trust our coach to fix it and if he can’t, next man up. I think he’d even agree with that .
