Not invited to the combine and not on any mock drafts that I have seen but hired an agent.I thought he improved last season and could have made a good 4 for us next season with Bradshaw/Ugo handling the 5.Our players act like it's hell on earth to return.
Why did Jacob Toppin not consider a return?
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I would sure take him at the 4 over Bradshaw but Cal has promises to keep.
Toppin was here like 3 years. He would have played a lot less this season. Sometimes you just want to move on.
We don't have a true 4 on the whole roster.
He got a new “plan” from AT&T.
'It's hard to play here"
Only since a certain coach has been here..........
Only since a certain coach has been here..........
Or if you're certain players that are entitled and don't want to hear criticism.
I don't think Toppin was a good as he believed himself to be
There's a lot to like about Toppin's game - and I would have welcomed him back for next season - but I think with the other pieces in place someone like Keshad Johnson is a better fit.
Someone who's played on winning teams, brings toughness + consistency and is a proven positive on defense is what this roster needs.
Someone who's played on winning teams, brings toughness + consistency and is a proven positive on defense is what this roster needs.
That goes for most of Cal's players lately but he catered to Chris last season and Aaron next season.
It's going to be fun to play Johnson and Ugo together.That will really open things up.
Johnson can play along the perimeter and he's only marginally worse at 3P shooting than Toppin. Ideally he would be better in that area, Best case scenario is that the 5 freshman can all shoot. We'll see.
He’s definitely one I would have liked see stay and really put in the work to go the league on as solid of footing as possible. I think he has a lot more in him if he really works at it.
He believed his own hype.
I think either Livingston or Edwards could have worked out alright at the PF spot. I would have felt more comfortable with Livingston there just because I feel like I know what he brings already and I expect a jump in production from him. But I would have also liked seeing Reeves at 2G, Dalton Knecht at SF and Edwards at PF. If you had a good scorer and consistent perimeter shooter at 2G (which I doubt any of the freshmen really fit that category yet), then Reeves at SF and Edwards at PF may have also been pretty good offensively.
Cal ain’t playing a 3 at the 4 no matter how good of an idea it is.
Toppin should have never been here. He's just not good enough. People thought he should have played over Brooks last year. This year we saw whey he didn't. As bad as Brooks was, he was better than Toppin.
He was unguarded this year and didn't take advantage. He can't pass, can't handle, damn sure can't guard and he is too much of a sissy to take it to the basketball.
He was unguarded this year and didn't take advantage. He can't pass, can't handle, damn sure can't guard and he is too much of a sissy to take it to the basketball.
And what promises would that be?
Cal have never once made promises to players about position or playing time.
But according to you he has started now. So what are those promises?
And if you believe that, I've got some ocean front property in Eastern Kentucky to sell ya. You know good and well that Cal promises playing time and position, just like this year with Bradshaw.
He played MKG at the 4. He played TJ at the 4 and 5. You can't change facts to fit your agenda.
That can’t be true , greatest class in UK history or damn close , we got 4 out of the best 8 so and so’s …. But no 4 ?
He played Terrence Jones and Kyle Wiltjer at the 4 MKG’s year. He will not play a 3 significant minutes at the 4.
You're probably right about that. Also, I can't control that; and I'm not stupid enough to think my opinion is the only one or has to be correct. It's just my belief that Edwards is not ready to be a strong offensive factor at SF... YET. Doesn't mean I don't think he's got lots of upside and a bright future.
So, are you saying Cal did a bad job scouting Toppin when he offered him a scholarship? lol
As I said in reply to another poster, I can't control that and I don't claim my opinion is the only one or infallible. But, irrespective of what Calipari will or won't do (and I don't claim to know for sure what that might be), wouldn't you agree that what matters in deciding what position a player plays should be based on how it impacts winning?
My personal opinion is that Edwards has the length and IQ to play PF against most college teams (probably all those teams in a team defense setting) and that his still developing offense would play better at PF (e.g., he could be better offensively than most opponents' PF, but weaker offensively in comparison to most of the better college SFs).
The problem is that about 95% of our guys "want to move on" at the first sign of NBA daylight, even the ones who aren't draftable like Toppin.
That's the problem, and it's exclusively a Kentucky problem.
Oh I agree, but impacting team winning is not Cals first priority. That’s why Immanuel Quickley came off the bench for 10 games behind Khalil Whitney and others. Whitney struggled making layups and started 8 games over the SEC player of the year.
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God, that frustrated the he** out of me.
I think he will have a successful NBA career.
I don’t think he will in the NBA, but I could see him having a good career somewhere. I hope you’re right and I’m wrong.
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