There is a great one. To piss off the Millenials who think he is the greatest ever.there is no excuse to not put LeBron in the all-time starting 5:
Magic Johnson
Michael Jordan
LeBron James
Karl Malone
Shaq
I’m no millennial and I do believe LBJ is the GOATThere is a great one. To piss off the Millenials who think he is the greatest ever.
Just the fact that he doesn't belong there.there is no excuse to not put LeBron in the all-time starting 5:
Magic Johnson
Michael Jordan
LeBron James
Karl Malone
Shaq
At least your honest about being a hater.There is a great one. To piss off the Millenials who think he is the greatest ever.
It’s not hard to make the argument he’s the greatest forward ever…Just the fact that he doesn't belong there.
It actually is easy to say he's not.It’s not hard to make the argument he’s the greatest forward ever…
Can you imagine Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, or Michael Jordan not having HOF teammates? How many titles are they winning when Mo Williams is the second best player on the team?It actually is easy to say he's not.
All he really has is longevity records and that is due to the pansfication of the league allowing him to player longer than others. MJ would put up 40 a game in this era, Bird would dominate and have much less injuries. Big O basically invented the triple double in an era it was unheard of.
LeBron has had to jump from team to team joining or bringing in other superstars to win titles and that hasn't worked super well for him (4-6 in the finals). Could you imagine Bird, Magic, or MJ with another top ten talent on their team like AD not making the playoffs??? Or a team with Bird, Magic and MJ together not setting every record? No chance that team only wins 2 titles.
I'll go further and say he's not the best forward of his era as Tim Duncan was. Duncan has more titles and didn't have to jump around or draw in top tier players like LeBron. Duncan's cast was also not what LeBron had.
Not saying LeBron is a bad player at all, he is a great player. He's just not as top tier as the media pushes down everyone's throat. GOAT? No chance. Top 10? Maybe.
Go back and watch an 80’s game. They weren’t even trying on defense until the end of a close game most of the time. People watch highlights of the bad boy pistons and think it was always like that. The early 2000’s was a much more physical, defense dominated period, to the point where they were losing viewership.It actually is easy to say he's not.
All he really has is longevity records and that is due to the pansfication of the league allowing him to player longer than others. MJ would put up 40 a game in this era, Bird would dominate and have much less injuries. Big O basically invented the triple double in an era it was unheard of.
LeBron has had to jump from team to team joining or bringing in other superstars to win titles and that hasn't worked super well for him (4-6 in the finals). Could you imagine Bird, Magic, or MJ with another top ten talent on their team like AD not making the playoffs??? Or a team with Bird, Magic and MJ together not setting every record? No chance that team only wins 2 titles.
I'll go further and say he's not the best forward of his era as Tim Duncan was. Duncan has more titles and didn't have to jump around or draw in top tier players like LeBron. Duncan's cast was also not what LeBron had.
Not saying LeBron is a bad player at all, he is a great player. He's just not as top tier as the media pushes down everyone's throat. GOAT? No chance. Top 10? Maybe.
and KobeOscar Robinson
Magic Johnson
Wilt chamberlain
Larry bird
Michael Jordan
Hard to keep out LeBron and Jerry west
Opinions are like armpits. We all got em and most stink. Variety is the spice of life. Look at the thread above, he's not on a lot of peoples top 5. He is on others.Go back and watch an 80’s game. They weren’t even trying on defense until the end of a close game most of the time. People watch highlights of the bad boy pistons and think it was always like that. The early 2000’s was a much more physical, defense dominated period, to the point where they were losing viewership.
He’s made a shit ton of finals and won 4. You look stupid for trying to portray that as a negative.
He’s forty. The fact he is what he is right now is insane. If this were 5 years ago you’d maybe have a point.
Duncan played more as a center than a pf. Look up minutes played where and lineups over his career. Even wanting to be bullheaded about that designation for whatever reason, it’s still not hard to make a case for LeBron.
Get outta here with the “he might not even be top 10” bs. You’d get laughed out of the room if you said that around any serious people.
Can you imagine Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, or Michael Jordan not having HOF teammates? How many titles are they winning when Mo Williams is the second best player on the team?
Yeah, you're probably right. The 67 year old Larry Bird of today, would probably be an 8th or 9th man on a current NBA team.Shaq
Jokic
Lebron
MJ
Curry
Bird would be an 8th or 9th man in todays NBA imo.
No Dr. J?!Players to consider: Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, Olajuwon, Duncan, Dirk, Malone, Elgin Baylor, Bird, LeBron, Durrant, Jordan, Kobe, West, Big O, Magic, Curry. Some may add Russell, Garnett, Barkley.
I'll go:
Wilt
Bird
Kobe
Jordan
Curry