Who killed Kennedy?
- Thread starter starchief5
- Start date
Conspiracy, which doesn't mean there wasn't a lone shooter. Both can be true.
We know the New Orleans mob boss (Carlos Marcello) reportedly said they wouldn't kill then AG Bobby because when you "cut off the tail of a dog, the head still lived. Cut off the head, the tail dies too."
After they Bay of Pigs, Jack made more enemies. The CIA and the military industrial complex. Both of which had the power to take him out.
Pretty interesting read, below.
www.leavenworthtimes.com
We know the New Orleans mob boss (Carlos Marcello) reportedly said they wouldn't kill then AG Bobby because when you "cut off the tail of a dog, the head still lived. Cut off the head, the tail dies too."
After they Bay of Pigs, Jack made more enemies. The CIA and the military industrial complex. Both of which had the power to take him out.
Pretty interesting read, below.
NEWS & ANNOUNCEMENTS: – Leavenworth Times
www.leavenworthtimes.com
Although Oswald did fire on the president's vehicle, the fatal shot was fired accidentally by a Secret Serviceman in the vehicle behind the president's vehicle, who had exited the vehicle to return fire. It's the only "theory" that fits all the evidence.
This is the first time I have heard this theory but I am not questioning anything when it comes to this part of our history. The Sunday after the shooting I was sitting on the couch with my dad and Oswald was exposed and shot to death in custody, I knew something was wrong. This was deep and somebody was messing with us.
The fact all of the evidence was pretty much locked down by our government and sealed from the public should tell us all, we were not given the truth. And we still do not have the truth.
What would JFK say if he saw what the democrat (now communist) party has become in 2020?Conspiracy, which doesn't mean there wasn't a lone shooter. Both can be true.
We know the New Orleans mob boss (Carlos Marcello) reportedly said they wouldn't kill then AG Bobby because when you "cut off the tail of a dog, the head still lived. Cut off the head, the tail dies too."
After they Bay of Pigs, Jack made more enemies. The CIA and the military industrial complex. Both of which had the power to take him out.
Pretty interesting read, below.
NEWS & ANNOUNCEMENTS: – Leavenworth Times
This is what the government of the United States says. But truth and the U.S. government is a stretch. You don't let your prime suspect get shot to death on national TV if you want the truth to be told. He should have been the most protected man on earth. You know like Epstein was protected. LMAO
The government could not afford a trial of Lee Harvey Oswald.
There is a great documentary out on this - not sure if you can find it on Netflix of Prime though.
Anyway everything matched, the type of ammunition and the wound to Kennedy's head, the direction of fire, the fact that people on the ground smelled gun smoke which would have been impossible if it was coming from the book depository. And it explains why all the secrecy. They weren't hiding a conspiracy they were hiding the fact that one of their own made a god-awful mistake. The agent lived in seclusion the rest of his life and refused to ever be interviewed - never made a public statement.
"Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country." WRONG. Maybe back in the 60's but not anymore. "Ask not what you can do for your country but demand that your country provide you with your every want and need, bail you out of every bad decision you ever make and always complain that everything they do will never be good enough."
Did he shoot Governor Connally too? They were in the same car. Governor Connally refused to accept the single bullet theory and insisted there were three shots that struck occupants in the Presidential limousine. He told a journalist, Doug Thompson, he did not believe the Warren Commission.
Again since the U.S. government refused to release the evidence and came up with a story that Oswald killed the President with a shot out of the book depository building who knows. I guess we can do like we have done for almost 60 years pick a theory and be done with it. I would like for the truth to be told but this is the United States of America.
So I do not find it hard to believe the CIA and U.S government would hide the fact one of their own killed the President.
America lost its innocence that day. Before that it was Camelot
I shouted out
Who killed the Kennedys?
When after all
It was you and me
Who killed the Kennedys?
When after all
It was you and me
It certainly exposed it. But America had issues before that day. Look at the 1960 election, it was a preview of things to come
He wouldn’t recognize it. Nothing but freaks, weirdos, socialist unborn baby killing hypocrites.
He was the last, great Democrat. This was the party’s peak..and if I was alive and of voting age in 1960, he’d have been my choice 100 percent.
America did, but he was a president of hope. He could unite both sides of the aisle.
Last edited:
A few years after the missile crisis, I served 18 months in Turkey. It was not released at the time to the public, but we had missiles in Turkey. Parts of Turkey borders the Soviet Union, so it was kind of a Cuba thing for them. We took our missiles out of Turkey as part of the Cuba deal. That info wasn't released till many years after and it's still not widely known. Even after the missiles were removed, we had planes armed with nukes ready to be airborne within 2 minutes of an order by the prez in several bases in Turkey.
I don’t want this to devolve and derail the thread. But if we still don’t know the truth 57 years later, why in the world does anybody believe we can trust what we’ve been told about the last 4 years, including covid. It’s madness.
I've did a term paper in school on JFK. Unlike most assignments back then, I actually took interest in this subject in fact I was borderline obsessed with it. Not unlike I am now in my 60's with University of Kentucky sports ! I read everything I could find. What I wouldn't have done for todays convince of seeing so much information site at my desk just a click or typing a few words away.
I've heard the theory that the SS Agent accidentally discharged his weapon resulting in the fatal shot, the many theories that it was at the order of LBJ, the MOB and on & on. While horrifically tragic it would have been had it come out it was "friendly fire", the nation could have accepted that. It might have taken some time and the life of that agent would have been Hell (more so than I've heard about through the years).
However the thing that really sticks out to me was that the Warren Commission findings were made unavailable to the public for so long. If I remember correctly the records were to be sealed for 75 years and then be made available. Personally as a few have hinted at, the Government and the Truth (the whole and nothing but) don't always mesh together perfectly...........I dare say that information will somehow get destroyed in some "accident" before it is ever a topic on CNN, MSNBC or FOX News. It may be a terrorist act or it gets lost accidentally in moving or whatever. The bottom line is I don't think it will ever become common knowledge to the masses just what went down that day, or the days leading up to it and following.
Oh P.S. I got an A on my work !!👌🙌👍
I've heard the theory that the SS Agent accidentally discharged his weapon resulting in the fatal shot, the many theories that it was at the order of LBJ, the MOB and on & on. While horrifically tragic it would have been had it come out it was "friendly fire", the nation could have accepted that. It might have taken some time and the life of that agent would have been Hell (more so than I've heard about through the years).
However the thing that really sticks out to me was that the Warren Commission findings were made unavailable to the public for so long. If I remember correctly the records were to be sealed for 75 years and then be made available. Personally as a few have hinted at, the Government and the Truth (the whole and nothing but) don't always mesh together perfectly...........I dare say that information will somehow get destroyed in some "accident" before it is ever a topic on CNN, MSNBC or FOX News. It may be a terrorist act or it gets lost accidentally in moving or whatever. The bottom line is I don't think it will ever become common knowledge to the masses just what went down that day, or the days leading up to it and following.
Oh P.S. I got an A on my work !!👌🙌👍
The government has always lied to and manipulated its people (supposedly for our own good). But we BEGAN to understand this at about this time.
I highlighted these posts because they clearly show a division in people's opinion on government involvement in anything. You have one side who will believe most anything they hear from the government and then you have another who believes the government is always keeping things from us.
In my opinion, which everyone has their own, there really are times when things should be withheld from the public. I'll give some instances. How about in this day of worldwide media and information of what happens in a remote part of the world will be known globally in mere minutes if not seconds when back in a lot of our younger days we wouldn't have heard about for days.
When we were involved in Desert Storm (or any military action) reporters would give stories on what our strategies were going to be. The other side saw these reports and changed their SOP thus resulting in a loss of the surprise element often needed in operations.
Another example is possibly some of the differing early reports on COVID. Of course people need to be warned of possible health hazards. However at the same time, if you just come out and say there is danger we have shown as a society that people will go into panic mode. There will be raids on resources, rioting and looting. There is absolutely NO DENYING that unless you just want to believe in a "kumbaya" type world that no longer exists.
Last edited:
This is what I believe. It was all well before my time, I couldve bought Oswald if not for the Jack Ruby thing. The different angles of bullets and all that, nah, Id buy Oswald. Jack Ruby just willy nilly being able to kill him stinks to high hell
Last edited:
WildcatfaninOhio
All-American
There were two shooters. The first was Sasquatch from the book depository window. The second was an alien that had escaped Area51, and fired from the grassy knoll. Of course this was all caught on film by Abraham Zapruder, who later gained fame by filming “the Apollo 11 Moon Landing” on a sound stage in Hollywood.
Based on all conspiracy theories there may have been as many as ten shooters on grassy knoll
That is EXACTLY what I was going to post. Mick and Keef told us the truth decades ago. Killed the Czar and his family too.
How many of you have been to Dealey Plaza? Very earie and smaller than I imagined somehow. I spent most of a day there. The x marks on the street where JFK was shot seems morbid. The school book depository window still open. The grassy knoll is very unimpressive. I think a visit reinforces the idea that Oswald was a lone gunman. The things around Oswald are perhaps another story but I think Oswald fired all the shots.
The best book I've ever read on the subject is "Libra" by Don DeLillo. Outstanding.
The best book I've ever read on the subject is "Libra" by Don DeLillo. Outstanding.
Last edited:
That's exactly what "Libra" tackles. You'll understand Oswald after reading that book. He was a real piece of work. He always believed he would insert himself into history. He insinuated himself in between the two most powerful intelligence agencies in the world with Cuba sprinkled in. He sought out history. Pursued it vigorously in an alarmingly clumsy sort of way he failed upwards. When you are as persistent as he is then it all makes sense. He was not going to stop until he got himself killed. Most people that think there was a massive conspiracy just need to learn more about Oswald. Shocking character in every aspect of his life. He was used but not directed IMO if that makes sense. He constantly did things to try and draw attention to himself from the intelligence agencies, not be directed by them on either side. Any coverup was the realization from both sides that the guy that just shot the President had a paper trail to US, Russia, and Cuba as any annoying groupie type like your typical police groupie might be. I can imagine that sent a cold chill down quite a few spines when a guy that handed out Cuban leaflets, immigrated to Russia, married a Russian wife, visited the Russian embassy in Mexico just shot the President of the US.
And in my first memories
They shot Kennedy
An' I went numb when I learned to see
They shot Kennedy
An' I went numb when I learned to see
Oddly enough this week I listened to a podcast from True Crime Garage titled "The Ice Box Killer." The case ties back to Kennedy and Woody Harrelson's dad, as many believe this guy was part of a The 3 Tramps will Charles Harrelson. The Ice Box Killer was named Charles Rodgers- pretty horrific crime.
Anyhow, if interested you can find TCG on stitcher or from their website...https://www.truecrimegarage.com/
Lastly, I don't work for the show, just a fan.
Anyhow, if interested you can find TCG on stitcher or from their website...https://www.truecrimegarage.com/
Lastly, I don't work for the show, just a fan.
And if he did why did the government hide the findings. Why not lay it all on the table. Just show the proof one man decided on his own to kill the president. We were big boys and girls in 1963 and could have handled it.
But no, they do a Warren Commission. The Governor of Texas who was in the car and also shot did not believe their findings. He heard 3 shots. If you can not get a man who was shot in the assassination of our President to agree with the findings why are we to believe them, especially since they sealed everything up to be released 75 years later. All parties involved will be dead and gone into eternity. So will most of the public including me since I was 20 years old when it happened.
Stunts like this make any American with their eyes open question their motive. Just put out the facts and be done with it. But no here we are 57 years later and still arguing over a conspiracy or non conspiracy. And the suspect is shot and killed while in the custody of law enforcement. Watch the video and see how he was a dead man walking from the moment of his arrest.
And one last point as to why I do not believe the government during that era. This is the same Washington Swamp that lied about the Vietnam War. The same characters in government lied and it led to over 50,000 of my brothers being killed in that God forsaken place. So no I do not believe a word of the Unites States Government from 1960 on.
