We need to hire Peavey as AD right now.

[qwesley]

no offense...but being AD for university is a bigger job then just making fans like you happy

He is closer to the truth than you. In the vast majority of the top schools, the health/profitability of the football program is more important than everything else put together. And much of that health is defined by boosters.

Michigan has great olympic sports but their AD got canned for the football fiasco.

 

[USNNFOCAT]

And he hasn't really mismanaged football. Do you people realize just how much UK football has going against it? There are 14 schools in the SEC, and only two emphasize basketball more, us and Vandy. Imagine having 10 guys as talented as Randall Cobb on your roster every single year. And 10 more at the talent level just below. The coaching staffs and coordinators you are going against are the best of the best. They prove their mettle around the country and jump at the chance to come to the SEC.

Here's the real bitch of it....say you DO hire a coach who magically transforms UK from third tier to second tier to top tier. That guy is hired by one of the blue blood programs immediately. And it's back to square one.

I understand the uphill struggle UK has but for the common refrain to be how we gift wrapped this victory for the other team by shooting ourselves in the foot is a broken record I'm tired of listening to. If I hear one more time, Dawson said of the play. “It didn’t work out and obviously, like I said, if it would have worked out, it would have been great.” If, if , if...if they could simply get lined up...that isn't too much to ask for a coach making nearly 4 million a year. Steady progress is all we're asking for.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

No offense Tampa, but the vast majority of people could care less about the sports you listed (other than basketball of course).
Just look at attendance, revenue, etc.

Of course I don't really care about those sports either, but to say that besides basketball our athletic department is not any good is complete lunacy.

Those sports don't make ANY money at any schools, none. So not sure why revenue and attendance would matter.

But you should still be proud when your team is good at multiple things.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

Whoop-eee Tampa

Someone mentioned that besides basketball, our athletic department sucked.

I made the point that it was false.

So what's your issue exactly?

 

[UK till Death]

Brainfart is a dumpster fire.

He wouldn't have hired Cal in a million years if he had been left to his own devices.

Thank God the adults stepped in.

 

[.S&C.]

MB has done more for UK athletics then any AD we have ever had

Regurgitated info. No truth to this whatsoever.

 

[.S&C.]

The influx of SEC cash has certainly helped...he has been solid though. Just doesn't need to be making any football/basketball hiring decisions solo.

The sec deals are the reason for half of he credit people are giving Barnhart. He's a terrible AD where it counts. He's not focused on winning. He's focused on SEC pie money.

They won't fire him because he does what they want. Nothing.

You are an idiot if you think Barnhart hired cal. I don't even think Barnhart is in charge of basketball to an extent today.

 

[EvilMD]

I understand the uphill struggle UK has but for the common refrain to be how we gift wrapped this victory for the other team by shooting ourselves in the foot is a broken record I'm tired of listening to. If I hear one more time, Dawson said of the play. “It didn’t work out and obviously, like I said, if it would have worked out, it would have been great.” If, if , if...if they could simply get lined up...that isn't too much to ask for a coach making nearly 4 million a year. Steady progress is all we're asking for.

The Vandy game was brutal. It's one of the few games I'll watch all year. I just have no interest in watching us play Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, etc. because the only question is "Will we get smashed again or is this one of those years where they tease us and then choke at the end?" So I watch the games early and I watch Vandy, U of L and the cupcake we always have near the end of the season.

Personally I think that Vandy game was the beginning of the end for Stoops. I can see getting outcoached by Auburn, Florida, LSU, etc. But getting your clipboard handed to you by Vandy, with whispers that your job is in trouble? When we had first and goal from the one foot line and we're running our speed back up the middle I knew we were going to blow that game.

 

[.S&C.]

The Kentucky Basketball job is probably the toughest one in college Basketball and not anyone can handle it. Cal has that personality and mindset to deal with it much better than others. As Cal has said so many times, Kentucky isn't for everyone.

This is overblown. The UK job affords coaches more opportunity than any other place. If you're a good coach worth a sh*t, you can win big here. Nothing hard about it if you're compotent. No great program is for "everyone".

 

[.S&C.]

Women's debate team is top 25.

That's just great.

While he hires another drunk idiot or names another coach in waiting who can't handle football.

Great AD!

He works for peanuts. He's cheap. That's why we keep him. There's nothing else to it, trust me Barnhart fans, if he was as good as you think someone would have poached him away for what we're paying him. No one wants him.

 

[Bodvar Bjarki]

Brainfart is a dumpster fire.

He wouldn't have hired Cal in a million years if he had been left to his own devices.

Thank God the adults stepped in.

You're not being fair. If Barnhart is the AD then he gets the blame and the credit for what happens. I think he's done a fantastic job because the one thing you have to get right at UK is the basketball coach and regardless of how much or how little credit you give Barnhart for that decision the bottom line is that was a total home run hire of epic proportions that literally overnight turned UK into the hottest program in the country and he's kept us right there ever since.

Barnhart has done a fantastic job because basketball is the be-all end-all at Kentucky and Mitch is batting 1,000% as Cal owns college basektgall

 

[EvilMD]

Rich Brooks and Jerry Claiborne are the only two football coaches who got UK to bowl games without cheating.

 

[BostonCat2001]

He is closer to the truth than you. In the vast majority of the top schools, the health/profitability of the football program is more important than everything else put together. And much of that health is defined by boosters.

Michigan has great olympic sports but their AD got canned for the football fiasco.

thats great...but the role of AD is bigger than that. it just is. at uk where football has always failed. i repeat...always failed. you just do the best you can with it. fans dont like it...but there isnt anything they are going to like anyways. 1/3 of the fan base doesnt like cal.

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

Of course I don't really care about those sports either, but to say that besides basketball our athletic department is not any good is complete lunacy.

Those sports don't make ANY money at any schools, none. So not sure why revenue and attendance would matter.

But you should still be proud when your team is good at multiple things.

Tampa, I'm proud whenever my university is good at anything whether it be cheerleading, volleyball, or basketball/football.
As I mentioned to another poster...was just stating the obvious.

And try not to call TNCatfanforever a 'moron'. He's actually one of the more civil posters we have on here whether we all agree with him or not.

 

[qwesley]

thats great...but the role of AD is bigger than that. it just is. at uk where football has always failed. i repeat...always failed. you just do the best you can with it. fans dont like it...but there isnt anything they are going to like anyways. 1/3 of the fan base doesnt like cal.

No you weren't talking about UK specifically, thus my response. UK is a little different but if you don't think fans are less patient with the football program than they have been historically then you aren't very tuned in. The extreme basketball success has saved MB. And the SEC offices are putting more pressure on schools to be investing in the two major sports.

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

Rich Brooks and Jerry Claiborne are the only two football coaches who got UK to bowl games without cheating.

Don't forget Bear.

 

[nssdigitalchumps]

Wasn't totally knocking him. He has made those sports relevant in some eyes. And as far as those sports are concerned thay are far better. And no I don't expect 24K at a volleyball game. I just was making the comment, that a very large percentage of people would agree with, that most people could care less about these sports...that's all. But for those who complain that UK doesn't put enough $$ into football (which is a large producer of revenue), there's money being spent on all these secondary sports that many would rather see going to football. But in these days and times you can't do it, which I understand.

And I'm not trying to be a jerk about this, I promise.

The money being spent on secondary sports is chump change and wouldn't matter much in the long run for football. Put it all together and maybe that's a different scenario, but probably not. It took 200+ million for renovations, as well as the creation of a new practice facility. Even with the new baseball stadium and updated soccer field, it shouldn't be close to that amount.

MB does a great job and sometimes it works out really well and sometimes it doesn't. Overall, he has done quite a bit for athletics as a whole. Plus, he is a super nice guy. Would rather have him than Jurich.

 

[Hoskins91]

This is overblown. The UK job affords coaches more opportunity than any other place. If you're a good coach worth a sh*t, you can win big here. Nothing hard about it if you're compotent. No great program is for "everyone".

The work it takes to satisfy the expectations here is hard for people to maintain over an extended period. It visibly ages you, like being President.

 

[.S&C.]

And the circles having been getting smaller and smaller as in a downward spiral! I'm a season ticket holder and I've never seen such on-field confusion by players and staff alike. Play calling is done with a magic 8 ball.

These football hires are enough to fire most AD's at places where competing/winning is expected.

The work it takes to satisfy the expectations here is hard for people to maintain over an extended period. It visibly ages you, like being President.

It's overblown I'm sorry. We pay a fortune. Nothing "ages" people about that. We are no different than any program or arganization that demands excellence. We afford great coaches the means to make shit happen. Cals Job is easier now than its been in his whole life.

Cal is in his 50's and looks great. He's not aging rough at all.

It's not that some of what you're saying is wrong, it's just overblown badly.

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

And I'm not trying to be a jerk about this, I promise.

The money being spent on secondary sports is chump change and wouldn't matter much in the long run for football. Put it all together and maybe that's a different scenario, but probably not. It took 200+ million for renovations, as well as the creation of a new practice facility. Even with the new baseball stadium and updated soccer field, it shouldn't be close to that amount.

MB does a great job and sometimes it works out really well and sometimes it doesn't. Overall, he has done quite a bit for athletics as a whole. Plus, he is a super nice guy. Would rather have him than Jurich.

No problem. We're close to being on the same page....Wouldn't say he's great, and totally agree with your last 2 sentences.

 

[sekyghosts]

I've known DeWayne Peevy since he took over the SEC Men's Basketball duties from Scottie Rogers. I worked with him for many years and consider him a friend. He's a good guy and is perfectly suited to the job he has. But he had absolutely nothing to do with Cal being hired.

 

[mebeblue2]

Regurgitated info. No truth to this whatsoever.

list the AD's at UK that have done more, without getting us put on probation

 

[.S&C.]

list the AD's at UK that have done more, without getting us put on probation

You're using bad logic to try and justify a bad athletic director. Excuses sound best to the people making them.

Barnhart has made some of the worst hires in this schools history. I don't care about what happened in 1945. Those were different times. Mitch Barnhart has things at his disposal that no athletic director has ever had here. The sec deals have made us extremely rich. The modern way has brough us to a point where not competing is almost not possible. You've nearly got to not try at all.

Mitch Barnhart would be great for a smaller university, not an SEC football program. I can't believe some of you sit back and cut him a break on this. Some of the same people who bitch about our football program are the same ones who love Barnhart.

Exhibit A of why we suck.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

You're using bad logic to try and justify a bad athletic director. Excuses sound best to the people making them.

Barnhart has made some of the worst hires in this schools history. I don't care about what happened in 1945. Those were different times. Mitch Barnhart has things at his disposal that no athletic director has ever had here. The sec deals have made us extremely rich. The modern way has brough us to a point where not competing is almost not possible. You've nearly got to not try at all.

Mitch Barnhart would be great for a smaller university, not an SEC football program. I can't believe some of you sit back and cut him a break on this. Some of the same people who bitch about our football program are the same ones who love Barnhart.

Exhibit A of why we suck.

Right, because renovating Commonwealth Stadium, building a brand new, state of the art practice facility that will be done next season, and hiring Mark Stoops were all TERRIBLE decisions.

 

[Mojocat]

Regurgitated info. No truth to this whatsoever.

This is lunacy. Logic on its head. The idea that UK athletics are in the best shape they've ever been in is demonstrable. See the list Tampa gave earlier. Look at UK basketball, in the midst of its greatest run arguably ever - we are literally on top of the world right now in basketball, along with Duke. So, facts. Somehow, you reject a factual truth - but cling like a madman to internet lore about Barnhart and Todd getting shoved aside by boosters to hire Cal.

You don't believe today is Monday, but you will argue to the death that Bigfoot is real......

 

[.S&C.]

This is lunacy. Logic on its head. The idea that UK athletics are in the best shape they've ever been in is demonstrable. See the list Tampa gave earlier. Look at UK basketball, in the midst of its greatest run arguably ever - we are literally on top of the world right now in basketball, along with Duke. So, facts. Somehow, you reject a factual truth - but cling like a madman to internet lore about Barnhart and Todd getting shoved aside by boosters to hire Cal.

You don't believe today is Monday, but you will argue to the death that Bigfoot is real......

You being uninformed isnt my problem. Believe it or not, there's lots of things that go on Inside a program that you never hear about. I don't go off of Internet lore. Barnhart is a dud. Someday every UK fan will have to deal with it.

 

[.S&C.]

Right, because renovating Commonwealth Stadium, building a brand new, state of the art practice facility that will be done next season, and hiring Mark Stoops were all TERRIBLE decisions.

Good God basketball only fans.

Mark Stoops is AWFUL. Tampa, are you even paying attention? Seriously?
Our football program has TANKED.

Gillispie - worst hire in history bar none.
Joker - is this a joke?

His job must have zero to do with winning where it matters.

 

[Blueworld_3.0]

I've known DeWayne Peevy since he took over the SEC Men's Basketball duties from Scottie Rogers. I worked with him for many years and consider him a friend. He's a good guy and is perfectly suited to the job he has. But he had absolutely nothing to do with Cal being hired.

I wouldn't argue that point but, wouldn't you also say he has been very instrumental in Cal being happy at UK? Perhaps even go as far as saying that Peevy may be Cal's one true confidant at UK?

 

[.S&C.]

I wouldn't argue that point but, wouldn't you also say he has been very instrumental in Cal being happy at UK? Perhaps even go as far as saying that Peevy may be Cal's one true confidant at UK?

It's secret to many that cal doesn't even like Mitch. People forget all the issues that were swirling with this around 2009/2010. Mitch doesn't have a damn thing to do with Cal.

But I have no idea how close he and Peevy are.

 

[BostonCat2001]

You being uninformed isnt my problem. Believe it or not, there's lots of things that go on Inside a program that you never hear about. I don't go off of Internet lore. Barnhart is a dud. Someday every UK fan will have to deal with it.

if you never hear about it...how do you....hear about it then?

 

[EvilMD]

This has devolved into lunacy. Mitch sucks because we got a lot of SEC money? Do the other SEC teams not enjoy that same benefit? And yes, Gillispie was a bad hire. So was Doherty at UNC, Kragthorpe at U of L, Mike Davis and Kelvin Sampson at IU, Most of the football coaches at Duke, Every football coach except Spurrier and Meyer at Florida, Most of the basketball and football coaches at UCLA....show me a university that has made grand slam hires in both sports.

 

[.S&C.]

Good God basketball only fans.

Mark Stoops is AWFUL. Tampa, are you even paying attention? Seriously?
Our football program has TANKED.

Gillispie - worst hire in history bar none.
Joker - is this a joke?

His job must have zero to do with winning where it matters.

This has devolved into lunacy. Mitch sucks because we got a lot of SEC money? Do the other SEC teams not enjoy that same benefit? And yes, Gillispie was a bad hire. So was Doherty at UNC, Kragthorpe at U of L, Mike Davis and Kelvin Sampson at IU, Most of the football coaches at Duke, Every football coach except Spurrier and Meyer at Florida, Most of the basketball and football coaches at UCLA....show me a university that has made grand slam hires in both sports.

Kragthorpe? You realize they hired Pitrino back right? They are concerned with winning above all. It flies completely in the face of your argument. Doherty? They went out and hired the best young coach in the country at the time right after it. None of this even comes close to comparing to what we're talking about.

You think these new SEC deals, the new bowl system, the sec network, and shared revenue DONT help Mitch Barnhart with some of the crap his fanboys keep spewing? Do the other teams enjoy the benifit? Umm, dude, the other teams have ten times the success of us.

Watching Mitch basketball fanboys run in circles to try and throw him a bone is hilarious.

 

[BostonCat2001]

This has devolved into lunacy. Mitch sucks because we got a lot of SEC money? Do the other SEC teams not enjoy that same benefit? And yes, Gillispie was a bad hire. So was Doherty at UNC, Kragthorpe at U of L, Mike Davis and Kelvin Sampson at IU, Most of the football coaches at Duke, Every football coach except Spurrier and Meyer at Florida, Most of the basketball and football coaches at UCLA....show me a university that has made grand slam hires in both sports.

go a step further. show me a school equivalent to UK in football that has made a grad slam hire where they are now going to bowl games each and every year (although bowl games dont even matter anymore to be honest). some of these cases, doesnt matter who the AD or coach is...you are what you are no matter what you do really. try hard to improve for sure...but at the end of the day....

 

[.S&C.]

if you never hear about it...how do you....hear about it then?

go a step further. show me a school equivalent to UK in football that has made a grad slam hire where they are now going to bowl games each and every year (although bowl games dont even matter anymore to be honest). some of these cases, doesnt matter who the AD or coach is...you are what you are no matter what you do really. try hard to improve for sure...but at the end of the day....

Tell me the last time you've been to Morgantown W Virgina? Have you ever been to Fayetville Arkansas?

It's false that UK can't compete. We have an administration that doesn't want to compete.

And why would they? They get the same amount of money being mediocre and the fans can't get enough of it. Win/win.

Smart business.

 

[mebeblue2]

You're using bad logic to try and justify a bad athletic director. Excuses sound best to the people making them.

Barnhart has made some of the worst hires in this schools history. I don't care about what happened in 1945. Those were different times. Mitch Barnhart has things at his disposal that no athletic director has ever had here. The sec deals have made us extremely rich. The modern way has brough us to a point where not competing is almost not possible. You've nearly got to not try at all.

Mitch Barnhart would be great for a smaller university, not an SEC football program. I can't believe some of you sit back and cut him a break on this. Some of the same people who bitch about our football program are the same ones who love Barnhart.

Exhibit A of why we suck.

if by "bad logic" you mean he has improved almost everything around our athletics, then i agree
you are in that group that will never give MB credit, in other words you are blinded of the truth by your dislike of MB

 

[.S&C.]

if by "bad logic" you mean he has improved almost everything around our athletics, then i agree
you are in that group that will never give MB credit, in other words you are blinded of the truth by your dislike of MB

Ok

Enjoy the top 25 debate team on the ocho tonight.

 

[BostonCat2001]

Tell me the last time you've been to Morgantown W Virgina? Have you ever been to Fayetville Arkansas?

wvu and ark are your examples....says it all right there

 

[mebeblue2]

Ok

Enjoy the top 25 debate team on the ocho tonight.

I am still waiting on that list of UK AD's that have done more for our athletics then MB has

don't let your hate rule you. put up or shut up

 

[.S&C.]

I love this decourcy article.

Yea it's just so apparent Barnhart was all in on the cal hire.



http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-ba...i-shines-while-barnhart-blunders-introduction

 

[Ben101er]

Those blue jacket ushers can kiss my ass.

Some of the most grumpy and smug chip on their shoulders get off my lawn old geezers in the state.

Smile so we can tell which end to kiss.