UT landed another 5-star
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Lord have mercy. The CBs are just rolling in for Jahvaree Ritzie. Who's the primary recruiter on him for UT, Jay Graham?
Yeah. North Carolina or UK never loses to
Independents or Group of 5 schools.
I agree. I would love to have some continuity with both of the current coordinators. Helton has a good offensive mind, he just probably wasn't a good fit with what Pruitt wants to do offensively. Although Sherrer was the DC on paper, technically Pruitt was calling the shots defensively his first season. I respect Pruitt for freely admitting that Season 1 was a real learning experience for him as far as being a new HC, and he has acknowledged he made numerous mistakes early on. The first step towards improving is acknowledging that you need to improve.
I think Chaney was a great hire because he has been successful as an OC at multiple SEC schools, and will not leave Knoxville unless he gets fired or Pruitt were to get fired. Chaney loves Knoxville as a place to live. Ansley has also been a great hire; and up and coming young defensive mind and an outstanding recruiter. If Pruitt proves to be successful at UT he may be able to keep Ansley at least until someone wants him as a HC.
It remains to be seen if Pruitt will be the guy to get UT back competing for the SEC, but so far I have been very impressed with the way he is building the foundations. Pruitt fully understands the SEC is an LOS league, something Butch was never able to grasp.
Lord, I remember that game. Miss a FG, commit a penalty on the FG attempt, and be rewarded with another chance at the FG. The game that brought the 10 second runoff rule to college football.
I'd kinda like to mix it up with you guys again and see how good those 5 stars are. We're playing just about everyone else in the SEC. Makes sense for UT because your rivals are all in conference as opposed to a UK or SC that already plays an ACC team every year.
I would as well, if for no other reason than to show you how good those 5* are. But the real reason is that the state of NC puts has good talent annually and UT has traditionally recruited well in NC, though it slacked off some the past decade. I suspect that is one reason Pruitt was interested in bringing Graham back on the staff. Pruitt needs to put a couple of beat downs on Mack to lock down that state as a UT pipeline.
I never really thought much of mid-tn as fertile recruiting territory until maybe the last decade. Memphis has forever been the #1 area in the state for recruiting, and unfortunately there are several SEC schools much closer than UT. UT does have a strong alumni base though in the city and in some of the area high schools. And obviously the better the product you can put on the field increases kids' interest. But other than the Memphis area there were just a small handful of pockets scattered around the state that could produce D1 talent annually.
But that appears to be changing. The Nashville/Murfreesboro area may very well replace the Memphis area sooner or later; There are some good and well-coached football schools in the area that are consistently producing not just D1 talent, but SEC talent. A lot of these kids aright now are not home grown, so not only may not ave grown up with UT as their 'dream' school, but may have grown up with another school as their dream school. So it about the same as recruiting out of state or Memphis kids right now. If you want to have a shot at landing them you need to produce a winner.
The Knoxville/Maryville/Alcoa area also seems to be producing more D1 and SEC level talent lately. Not as much as those larger metro areas, but still, it seems a lot more kids out of that area are getting to the D1 level, and even the SEC more. Those kids will typically have grown up with UT as their dream school, although that doesn't mean they will choose that school if the program is not producing, as was the case losing Tee Higgins and Amari Rogers to Clemson, and Cade Mays to UGA, although at least he is coming home.
We'll see. It's always funny watching their 247 insiders wait until the last minute to change their CBs or make up excuses for missing on someone they sold their members on. Always lol. SC can miss on everyone for all I care.
Josh Pate with the Late Kick describes it best. I’m not gonna share it in here because it’s a rival outlet but he hits the nail on the head with the 6 hour radius with talent and Knoxville. Knoxville is also one of only 2 (the other is Vandy) with a National airport that you’re not taking 6 flights and a 2 hour car ride to go from school back to Cali or Texas. Tennessee has a lot going for it. It just has to use it to its advantage and win.
So the story was true, he asked if he could come on a visit and not even talk to the coaches and they said sure. And he did. And he signed with Thug U. And he left before his second year.
Thanks for verifying, I personally found that repugnant, but not unexpected at Thug U.
Was Lacy the 25 year old leader of the Orange Pride, bet she could teach some of those teenagers some new tricks.
I thought most of your instate talent came from Memphis or the little town on the Mississippi River that was the farthest point in the state from Knoxville since you used it to figure your in state travel expense for calculating your COA expenses. Reminds me of Bama doubling their COA bonuses in a day or two when Auburn's came out to be twice Bama's COA. UK still one of the FEW SEC schools not in the top ten of the COA. Surrounded by Cincy, Transfer U, and Thug U all with top ten COAs, a Cincy signee will get over $12,500 more COA than a UK player over five years. Another reason I think mitch was the worst imaginable football AD for the UK football program for a full decade, until we lost about 20,000 season ticket holders AND their contributions. Now money to throw away, thanks to the OTHER SEC ADs, and we are throwing it around, Stoops is doing a great job but would be lost with Brooks or Joker's facilities and support.
You probably should ask Pruitt that. Let me know what he says----if you can.
What is laughable is your assessment of the talent on the two teams. Not to mention the coaching, just hide and watch.
;Who is this Make Firrell you speak of? Your four star rated in the fifties is going to be a five star?
And if he is he won't qualify for college if he isn't smart enough to transfer.
I said it was partially true. You just made up the part about Brown calling in advance of his OV saying he didn't want to meet with coaches, but rather see Earps, and the coaches were coll with that. That is just flat out false. He wanted to come back later on a UOV to see the hostess.
You would think that having surpassed UT and UGA you might actually start beating either of them more than the occasional home squeaker.
In one post you tell us UT is loaded with talent that is wasted, and now you tell us that UK is at least as talented as UT if not more. And you claim to have better coaching. I've been 'hiding and watching' since Pruitt arrived on campus and the one thing that jumps out at me is that Stoops is 0-2 vs Pruitt. How can that be? It must be that darned curse.
I didn’t think you’d be able to explain. You have 3 little comebacks and use them like a 6 yr old mashing buttons on Mortal Kombat.
I'm guessing he thinks Bigfoot is real too.
Stoops has done a good job at UK. Their lines should be good again this year.
UT will be at the top of the league on both lines of scrimmage though. They return every interior player.
The OL could start 4 - 5 star players and a 6th year senior the was a part time starter for Alabama early in his career before transferring.
The interior of the DL is probably 8 deep or more but it's mostly seniors.
I don't follow all your skulduggery, that would be a full time job. The gist of it is he asked the coaches if he could visit and not see them, just hang out with his favorite "Orange Pride", the group the NCAA FINALLY got around to banning, and the coaches said sure, that is what visits are for-----at Thug U. The only thing I missed was that it wasn't his "official visit" it sounds like, and the big difference in an official visit is a lot of things are paid for. Easy enough for the "Orange Pride" to cover that, I would guess they had their own budget.
Did anyone ever figure out who paid for the "Orange Pride's" long trip to South Carolina to recruit some teenagers for the football team? Don't think they got their main target but I think they did sign a four star. Weird how those college women were so interested in high school teenagers, but it sounds like their interest was limited to talented players.
I think it is funny how you so readily admit that the "Orange Pride" did seduce high school players------on wait, maybe they just talked about world affairs and the next election. Right.
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You seem to think cleat chasers are exclusive to Tennessee
Nobody is that naive...right?
I'm not admitting anything about the hostesses. I acknowledged that Brown did indeed want to come back after his OV to visit with her, and the coaches were apparently ok with that. But instead of your wild speculations, why not just read the chapter on the Orange Pride in the book The System.? All of this is covered in that chapter.
Maybe we should discuss UK offering to pay for a really nice apartment and car for a particular Morehead State volleyball commit to get her boyfriend to Lexington?
I can guarantee you that no group like that is sanctioned by UK, either officially or unofficially. I always thought the "Orange Pride" giving their all for dear old Thug U was one of the more disgusting stories in all of college football, and it was well recognized as such, and you seem to readily agree with that. Amazed that you seem so ready to admit that sordid group was used by Thug U. Also amazed that the incompetent NCAA allowed it to exist for so long.
Your "cleat chasers" were a well organized and FINANCED group with recruiting as their main function.
Bye for now
You probably have trouble with numbers but 2019 is ONE, 2018 is TWO, and 2017 would have made it THREE, not SIX, that is IF you had won the game that year. If you are talking about regular season and the bowl game NONE of those should give you a lot of confidence that you are big time now.
They think Kinnard might be a first or second round draft choice this year so we may lose him, but he is a THREE star that will only be in his third year at UK this year, more proof of the caliber of the OL coach we have. We also have a five star in his fifth year (injury) and a center starting for his fourth straight year, with nice talent AND experience at the two guard positions. Check your rushing average vs ours the past few years.
By the way, enjoy your number 2 recruiting status while you can, lots of articles saying you will be lucky to end up top ten with all the three stars you have, although NONE of them should be that confident that they will end up with an offer when all is said and done. After all, it is Thug U.
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Tennessee has won six football games in a row. Did I say against UK? ALTHOUGH, now that you bring it up, we are 33-2 against UK over the last 35 years. Thanks for the opening for me to bring that up.
Yeah. UT is the only school that recruits over kids. You discovered the secret. Maybe your staff can get in the top 20 now.
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