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Tulane and Sumrall @ Charlotte, Thursday, Oct 31, 7:30E, ESPN

I wish Tulane played better competition; 3/4 of the teams they play suck badly. I like Sumrall but would like see him coach against better teams. I know Tulane played Oklahoma and k state but neither are great p4 teams.
 
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I wish Tulane played better competition; 3/4 of the teams they play suck badly. I like Sumrall but would like see him coach against better teams. I know Tulane played Oklahoma and k state but neither are great p4 teams.
You mean the Kansas State team that will be playing a game on November 30 to go the Playoff? Nah they’re no good.

You play the teams on your schedule. That game was scheduled a few years in advance is my guess.

Hope JS replaces Stoops whenever he decides to leave!
 
You mean the Kansas State team that will be playing a game on November 30 to go the Playoff? Nah they’re no good.

You play the teams on your schedule. That game was scheduled a few years in advance is my guess.

Hope JS replaces Stoops whenever he decides to leave!

They are big 12 good but not a legit playoff team.
 
Think we should consider Helton from WKU. Runs a wide open offense.

Not sure that is what you really want today. With the portal and NIL teams lack the depth they had 2-3 years ago, kids want to see the field. Even UT has slowed things down to make it easier on its defense. CMS has had SEC level first liners, but has never had the trusted depth he wants to open thing up offensively. I know that isn't what you want to read, but wide open offense may not be what you really want.
 
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Not sure that is what you really want today. With the portal and NIL teams lack the depth they had 2-3 years ago, kids want to see the field. Even UT has slowed things down to make it easier on its defense. CMS has had SEC level first liners, but has never had the trusted depth he wants to open thing up offensively. I know that isn't what you want to read, but wide open offense may not be what you really want.
Unfortunately UK still has a segment of its fan base that would rather lose 45-42 than win 20-17.
 
I may jinx him, but took Tulane -14. A little worried, Charlotte is not as bad as their record shows. They should have beat Memphis @ Memphis last week. They went up 28-24 with 1:20 to go, Memphis takes in down and scores with 31 seconds left. They are 7-1 and only loss is @ Navy. Maybe Tulane sees tape of that and knows it can happen to them, it is @ Charlotte.
 
I'm not one of those, but we're not winning either way. In today's game you have to average more than 14-17 pts to win consistently.

I am not disagreeing that a quick strike offense is fun to watch as a fan, it absolutely is. And as a coach I have superior depth I like them too. But if I am not confident in my depth, will those quick strike scores be against me when I have to sub?

Fans didn't like it, but CMS's best years was when he shortened the game and limited possessions with an elite running game behind an elite OL. UK lost their OL coach and things started to change offensively. Brought in transfers at QB who were suppose to be passers, WR to stretch the field. From an outside view it looks like CMS tried to change offensively but at this point it has been a disappointment.

I know UK fans want a change, and it very well could be time, that's for UK administration and boosters to decide, but change isn't always an upgrade, you can look at the old SEC East to see that. Good luck with which ever route UK takes.
 
Unfortunately UK still has a segment of its fan base that would rather lose 45-42 than win 20-17.
Or else Eddie Gran would still be the OC…. Blew my mind how much ppl were complaining after a 10 win season and then a run dominant 8 win season that 3 losses came pre Lynn Bowden option switch.

Stoops only switched OCs bc the noise of “we have to be more balanced to take the next step…what WRs and QBs will want to play here…blah blah”. Since then, we’ve had no identity other than Levis and CRod basically running RPO when Coen ditched the wide zone blocking scheme in week 4
 
I am not disagreeing that a quick strike offense is fun to watch as a fan, it absolutely is. And as a coach I have superior depth I like them too. But if I am not confident in my depth, will those quick strike scores be against me when I have to sub?

Fans didn't like it, but CMS's best years was when he shortened the game and limited possessions with an elite running game behind an elite OL. UK lost their OL coach and things started to change offensively. Brought in transfers at QB who were suppose to be passers, WR to stretch the field. From an outside view it looks like CMS tried to change offensively but at this point it has been a disappointment.

I know UK fans want a change, and it very well could be time, that's for UK administration and boosters to decide, but change isn't always an upgrade, you can look at the old SEC East to see that. Good luck with which ever route UK takes.
I think you are mis-understanding my wanting a more wide open offense. I don't necessarily want a 100mph offense. Just one that isn't so predictable.
 
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I am not disagreeing that a quick strike offense is fun to watch as a fan, it absolutely is. And as a coach I have superior depth I like them too. But if I am not confident in my depth, will those quick strike scores be against me when I have to sub?

Fans didn't like it, but CMS's best years was when he shortened the game and limited possessions with an elite running game behind an elite OL. UK lost their OL coach and things started to change offensively. Brought in transfers at QB who were suppose to be passers, WR to stretch the field. From an outside view it looks like CMS tried to change offensively but at this point it has been a disappointment.

I know UK fans want a change, and it very well could be time, that's for UK administration and boosters to decide, but change isn't always an upgrade, you can look at the old SEC East to see that. Good luck with which ever route UK takes.
I know you are right Grumpy. But changing from Mark to Kirby seems to be working pretty well, don't you think?

Go Big Blue!
 
A quick question, what happens if Sumrall turns down the job? Other than money it’s not the most attractive job.
 
A quick question, what happens if Sumrall turns down the job? Other than money it’s not the most attractive job.
Sumrall is a UK guy...He won't turn us down. He would walk to get here. I also don't know if it wouldn't be a destination job for him. I think he would retire here. I select few jobs might sway him like Bama but that list is extremely short. I don't know if he would leave for them either.
 
Sumrall is a UK guy...He won't turn us down. He would walk to get here. I also don't know if it wouldn't be a destination job for him. I think he would retire here. I select few jobs might sway him like Bama but that list is extremely short. I don't know if he would leave for them either.
I would like to have a coach that dreams of a job bigger than us. A guy that does so well that big name want to hire him.
 
Or else Eddie Gran would still be the OC…. Blew my mind how much ppl were complaining after a 10 win season and then a run dominant 8 win season that 3 losses came pre Lynn Bowden option switch.

Stoops only switched OCs bc the noise of “we have to be more balanced to take the next step…what WRs and QBs will want to play here…blah blah”. Since then, we’ve had no identity other than Levis and CRod basically running RPO when Coen ditched the wide zone blocking scheme in week 4
Do you think if Gran was still the offensive coordinator that we would be winning with the same players that we have now? Line still sucks, and then we are one dimensional, I agree that we should have given more leash to Gran to add plays and open the playbook more when we were winning. I think we would have been fine with Coen if he would have stayed and maybe been HC in waiting.
 
I think you are mis-understanding my wanting a more wide open offense. I don't necessarily want a 100mph offense. Just one that isn't so predictable.

As a UGA fan I can certainly appreciate want less predictable considering Bobo scrips his plays, it's just the same script every week.
 
I am not disagreeing that a quick strike offense is fun to watch as a fan, it absolutely is. And as a coach I have superior depth I like them too. But if I am not confident in my depth, will those quick strike scores be against me when I have to sub?

Fans didn't like it, but CMS's best years was when he shortened the game and limited possessions with an elite running game behind an elite OL. UK lost their OL coach and things started to change offensively. Brought in transfers at QB who were suppose to be passers, WR to stretch the field. From an outside view it looks like CMS tried to change offensively but at this point it has been a disappointment.

I know UK fans want a change, and it very well could be time, that's for UK administration and boosters to decide, but change isn't always an upgrade, you can look at the old SEC East to see that. Good luck with which ever route UK takes.
This is a great insight. To be fair.

1. Stoops first citrus bowl team (2018) with Benny Snell/Josh Allen was running the ball, playing defense, shortening game, etc.... But to be honest, we got a lucky ass win vs. Mizzou to propel that season and we stalled out badly vs. better teams.
2. Stoops second citrus bowl team was really a balanced running behind CROD and then Levis/Wandale Robinson really controlled the passing attack as much. That defense we decent but not near as good as 2018 defense. Now Schlarman passed away the year before....but it's mainly his developed Oline that drove that Oline.

So while I get things are trending down at UK....I think controlling the LOS with Schlarman (the oline coach) was a huge part of it. We needed a balanced running and passing attack....not just throwing the ball all over the place. Unfortunately, we have not replaced Schlarman very well at all in 4 years since his passing....I think that is our main issue (and I don't think Stoops will get the chance to replace him).
 
I would like to have a coach that dreams of a job bigger than us. A guy that does so well that big name want to hire him.

I've said if he wants to win anything that matters coming home isn't the best option. Lack of NIL funds compared to other sec teams and looming move to 9 conference games makes winning big here even more of a fantasy IMO.

People don't want to hear that reality though.
 
I've said if he wants to win anything that matters coming home isn't the best option. Lack of NIL funds compared to other sec teams and looming move to 9 conference games makes winning big here even more of a fantasy IMO.

People don't want to hear that reality though.
Tulane might be a better job than UK. Doesn't pay as well but a chance for more wins and better shot at the playoffs.
 
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No more west coast coaches ever.
Sark, Kif, Deboer…

Drink former Boise St OC worked out just fine for Missouri

Hueple…west of the Mississippi at least. Oklahoma, Arizona, Utah St stops on his resume

Clark Lea has some western football stops. UCLA South Dakota St

Heck, even Papaw the guy who saved the program!

Wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss guys from out that way.
 
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Tulane might be a better job than UK. Doesn't pay as well but a chance for more wins and better shot at the playoffs.
Do what?

In what universe is Tulane better than UK. By that logic, Troy is better than UK.
 
It is not the west coast coaches that are killing the offense at UK. ^^^^^^^^^^^
Sark, Kif, Deboer…

Drink former Boise St OC worked out just fine for Missouri

Hueple…west of the Mississippi at least. Oklahoma, Arizona, Utah St stops on his resume

Clark Lea has some western football stops. UCLA South Dakota St

Heck, even Papaw the guy who saved the program!

Wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss guys from ouZ
You all misunderstand. It isn't as much coaching ability. It has more to do with where their contacts and friendship base are established. Since recruiting is the lifeblood of the program we don't need a coach or staff who has to go to the trouble of building relationships and trust for recruiting.
 
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