You mean the Kansas State team that will be playing a game on November 30 to go the Playoff? Nah they’re no good.I wish Tulane played better competition; 3/4 of the teams they play suck badly. I like Sumrall but would like see him coach against better teams. I know Tulane played Oklahoma and k state but neither are great p4 teams.
You mean the Kansas State team that will be playing a game on November 30 to go the Playoff? Nah they’re no good.
You play the teams on your schedule. That game was scheduled a few years in advance is my guess.
Hope JS replaces Stoops whenever he decides to leave!
Think we should consider Helton from WKU. Runs a wide open offense.
Unfortunately UK still has a segment of its fan base that would rather lose 45-42 than win 20-17.Not sure that is what you really want today. With the portal and NIL teams lack the depth they had 2-3 years ago, kids want to see the field. Even UT has slowed things down to make it easier on its defense. CMS has had SEC level first liners, but has never had the trusted depth he wants to open thing up offensively. I know that isn't what you want to read, but wide open offense may not be what you really want.
I'm not one of those, but we're not winning either way. In today's game you have to average more than 14-17 pts to win consistently.Unfortunately UK still has a segment of its fan base that would rather lose 45-42 than win 20-17.
No more west coast coaches ever.I like Will Stein OC for Oregon.
I'm not one of those, but we're not winning either way. In today's game you have to average more than 14-17 pts to win consistently.
Or else Eddie Gran would still be the OC…. Blew my mind how much ppl were complaining after a 10 win season and then a run dominant 8 win season that 3 losses came pre Lynn Bowden option switch.Unfortunately UK still has a segment of its fan base that would rather lose 45-42 than win 20-17.
I think you are mis-understanding my wanting a more wide open offense. I don't necessarily want a 100mph offense. Just one that isn't so predictable.I am not disagreeing that a quick strike offense is fun to watch as a fan, it absolutely is. And as a coach I have superior depth I like them too. But if I am not confident in my depth, will those quick strike scores be against me when I have to sub?
Fans didn't like it, but CMS's best years was when he shortened the game and limited possessions with an elite running game behind an elite OL. UK lost their OL coach and things started to change offensively. Brought in transfers at QB who were suppose to be passers, WR to stretch the field. From an outside view it looks like CMS tried to change offensively but at this point it has been a disappointment.
I know UK fans want a change, and it very well could be time, that's for UK administration and boosters to decide, but change isn't always an upgrade, you can look at the old SEC East to see that. Good luck with which ever route UK takes.
I think the key word in these statements is "win".Unfortunately UK still has a segment of its fan base that would rather lose 45-42 than win 20-17.
I know you are right Grumpy. But changing from Mark to Kirby seems to be working pretty well, don't you think?I am not disagreeing that a quick strike offense is fun to watch as a fan, it absolutely is. And as a coach I have superior depth I like them too. But if I am not confident in my depth, will those quick strike scores be against me when I have to sub?
Fans didn't like it, but CMS's best years was when he shortened the game and limited possessions with an elite running game behind an elite OL. UK lost their OL coach and things started to change offensively. Brought in transfers at QB who were suppose to be passers, WR to stretch the field. From an outside view it looks like CMS tried to change offensively but at this point it has been a disappointment.
I know UK fans want a change, and it very well could be time, that's for UK administration and boosters to decide, but change isn't always an upgrade, you can look at the old SEC East to see that. Good luck with which ever route UK takes.
Stein is from Louisville grew up UK fan but walked on at UL. Coached a number of years in Texas. He isn’t some west coast OC like Hamdan.No more west coast coaches ever.
Bullshit.A quick question, what happens if Sumrall turns down the job? Other than money it’s not the most attractive job.
Sumrall is a UK guy...He won't turn us down. He would walk to get here. I also don't know if it wouldn't be a destination job for him. I think he would retire here. I select few jobs might sway him like Bama but that list is extremely short. I don't know if he would leave for them either.A quick question, what happens if Sumrall turns down the job? Other than money it’s not the most attractive job.
I would like to have a coach that dreams of a job bigger than us. A guy that does so well that big name want to hire him.Sumrall is a UK guy...He won't turn us down. He would walk to get here. I also don't know if it wouldn't be a destination job for him. I think he would retire here. I select few jobs might sway him like Bama but that list is extremely short. I don't know if he would leave for them either.
Do you think if Gran was still the offensive coordinator that we would be winning with the same players that we have now? Line still sucks, and then we are one dimensional, I agree that we should have given more leash to Gran to add plays and open the playbook more when we were winning. I think we would have been fine with Coen if he would have stayed and maybe been HC in waiting.Or else Eddie Gran would still be the OC…. Blew my mind how much ppl were complaining after a 10 win season and then a run dominant 8 win season that 3 losses came pre Lynn Bowden option switch.
Stoops only switched OCs bc the noise of “we have to be more balanced to take the next step…what WRs and QBs will want to play here…blah blah”. Since then, we’ve had no identity other than Levis and CRod basically running RPO when Coen ditched the wide zone blocking scheme in week 4
I want a coach that wants to be at UK. I want him to be so successful that others want to hire him but he chooses to stay. I think Sumrall is that guy.I would like to have a coach that dreams of a job bigger than us. A guy that does so well that big name want to hire him.
I think you are mis-understanding my wanting a more wide open offense. I don't necessarily want a 100mph offense. Just one that isn't so predictable.
This is a great insight. To be fair.I am not disagreeing that a quick strike offense is fun to watch as a fan, it absolutely is. And as a coach I have superior depth I like them too. But if I am not confident in my depth, will those quick strike scores be against me when I have to sub?
Fans didn't like it, but CMS's best years was when he shortened the game and limited possessions with an elite running game behind an elite OL. UK lost their OL coach and things started to change offensively. Brought in transfers at QB who were suppose to be passers, WR to stretch the field. From an outside view it looks like CMS tried to change offensively but at this point it has been a disappointment.
I know UK fans want a change, and it very well could be time, that's for UK administration and boosters to decide, but change isn't always an upgrade, you can look at the old SEC East to see that. Good luck with which ever route UK takes.
I would like to have a coach that dreams of a job bigger than us. A guy that does so well that big name want to hire him.
Tulane might be a better job than UK. Doesn't pay as well but a chance for more wins and better shot at the playoffs.I've said if he wants to win anything that matters coming home isn't the best option. Lack of NIL funds compared to other sec teams and looming move to 9 conference games makes winning big here even more of a fantasy IMO.
People don't want to hear that reality though.
Stop. In no universe is Tulane a better job than UK.Tulane might be a better job than UK. Doesn't pay as well but a chance for more wins and better shot at the playoffs.
Sark, Kif, Deboer…No more west coast coaches ever.
Do what?Tulane might be a better job than UK. Doesn't pay as well but a chance for more wins and better shot at the playoffs.
It is not the west coast coaches that are killing the offense at UK. ^^^^^^^^^^^No more west coast coaches ever.
Stein’s dad played at UK if I read correctly a week or so ago. Sumrall as HC and Stein OC.Stein is from Louisville grew up UK fan but walked on at UL. Coached a number of years in Texas. He isn’t some west coast OC like Hamdan.
It is not the west coast coaches that are killing the offense at UK. ^^^^^^^^^^^
You all misunderstand. It isn't as much coaching ability. It has more to do with where their contacts and friendship base are established. Since recruiting is the lifeblood of the program we don't need a coach or staff who has to go to the trouble of building relationships and trust for recruiting.Sark, Kif, Deboer…
Drink former Boise St OC worked out just fine for Missouri
Hueple…west of the Mississippi at least. Oklahoma, Arizona, Utah St stops on his resume
Clark Lea has some western football stops. UCLA South Dakota St
Heck, even Papaw the guy who saved the program!
Wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss guys from ouZ