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Travis Perry time

Jasper starts day 1.
Do you realize how many players are leaving CBB at the end of this season?
Basically 2 classes in all 4th and 5th year seniors.
Yeah I do. It's going to make it even harder for us to hold on to anyone who actually does get developed.
 
Pope sees him everyday in practice. If he were capable, he would play. Simple as that.
That's true but Jon Scheyer saw Isiah Evans everyday in practice but chose to DNP him against UK, KU, and AZ in favor of a more experienced Mason Gillis.
JS threw him in the game against Auburn with Duke down and he delivered 18 pts in a half.
I think Gillis and Kriisa are about the same level of player while Evans is definitely more talented than Perry.
The main thing is that Evans got a shot with the starters at crunch time.
That's the only way a coach can really tell if a kids got more in him than he's shown in practice.
Boley is really not better than Wimsatt but it was still the right decision to give him the start in the UL game.
Sometimes as a coach you have to give a kid the chance to fail.
I'm not making any claims about Perry's ability at this level.
I'm about 60/40 right now that TP' s career at UK will be a lot like Blevins, Carrier, Stockton etc
 
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Perry like every freshman needs minutes to boost his confidence and transition to the physicality and speed of college basketball. When you 9 experienced players on roasters plus 2 other freshman physicality more gifted it’s making sense that he didn’t get as many minutes yet.
 
I believe Perry is a better shooter and ball handler than Kerr. He distributes as well. He isn’t as strong and obviously lacks experience. The Clemson game would have been a good time to give him a shot since Krissa was horrible.
 
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Only UK fans would want more of the 12TH man.
Did you look at Kriisa’s stats from the Clemson game? His Offensive rating was horrible. He couldn’t stay in front of his defender and rarely tried to create. All I have said is that Perry could have received a few of his minutes. So yeah. I would have liked to see a little more of Perry during the last game. It might of made a difference.
 
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Did you look at Kriisa’s stats from the Clemson game? His Offensive rating was horrible. He couldn’t stay in front of his defender and rarely tried to create. All I have said is that Perry could have received a few of his minutes. So yeah. I would have liked to see a little more of Perry during the last game. It might of made a difference.

Or may have lost by more.

I'll trust Pope over random medsage board posters when it comes to playing time.
 
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Or may have lost by more.

I'll trust Pope over random medsage board posters when it comes to playing time.
You think Perry would have been worse than Kerr’s offensive rating? It was ZERO. First time I have seen that low of a rating all year.
 
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Did you look at Kriisa’s stats from the Clemson game? His Offensive rating was horrible. He couldn’t stay in front of his defender and rarely tried to create. All I have said is that Perry could have received a few of his minutes. So yeah. I would have liked to see a little more of Perry during the last game. It might of made a difference.
Based on what I've seen, so far, Perry is a better ball-handler and I THINK (not sure) is a better defender.
I know Perry is tough, has good instincts, quick hands and is a savvy player. Yes, he is shorter than Kriisa.
Of course, I have not been at practices and I do not know if my impressions are accurate.
If they played one-on-one, I wonder who would win, especially if threes were not part of the scoring and it was all inside the arc.
If Kriisa continues to struggle, especially in situations where Butler is injured or in foul trouble, Pope may be forced to give Perry time to see how he performs against the better teams. We'll see ...
 
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Reed was also a McDonald's All-American in high school. His heart is not why he was the 3rd overall pick.
I was about to post the same thing.

I swear some of us think if a player is Kentucky born, he possesses super powers or something. In football, the answer is never the backup QB, like in basketball,
Perry is nowhere near ready for meaningful minutes either on the offensive end or the defensive end.

Where is this coming from when people say he is? I’ve been to nearly every home game this season. Maybe they are showing you something different on the broadcasts because I don’t watch the broadcast when I go to the game. But Pope puts Perry in the last two-to-six minutes of every home game and I can tell you, whatever the cameras may be showing you, he is not nearly ready for division 1, either offensively or defensively. He’s nowhere near ready and since so far he basically can’t score or defend in mopup minutes with zero pressure (often against the other team’s scrubs) and teammates tossing the ball into his hands like they have an obsessive compulsive disorder just because the game is not in question and they genuinely want to see him score that badly, then he is obviously not close either to the point where he has any realistic chance of improving as a result of getting real, significant, gametime minutes when the pressure is on and the game is on the line.

That’s just how it is.

I’m not saying this because I have anything against Perry. I swore all summer and early fall that Perry would earn meaningful minutes from the get-go because he had already proven that he could perform at least as well but frankly better than Reed Sheppard in the same environment, in the same high school league. I would have a lot less egg on my face right now if I could say there was any realistic chance Perry could step up right now if given a chance.

He can’t. That’s just how it is. And to anyone who has been paying attention it couldn’t be more obvious that that’s just how it is.

I still believe in the kid. And you never know when someone is going to turn the corner and have the lightbulb go on. I hope it’s soon. In fact I still believe there is a plausible chance it could happen soon enough for him to be at least a five minute guy before the end of this year.

But that lightbulb will have to come on in practice. At this point forcing him to play in a game when we actually need production out of him would do nothing but confuse him, scar him emotionally, and get us beat bad if we honestly really did need production out of that position.

Perry’s time will come. It hasn’t come yet. And despite apparently a staggering amount of naïveté on the part of some people here, that is entirely about where Perry himself is right now and not at all about his coach.

To summarize, some Uk fans think Kentucky-born players are magic and have superpowers.
 
I was about to post the same thing.

I swear some of us think if a player is Kentucky born, he possesses super powers or something. In football, the answer is never the backup QB, like in basketball,


To summarize, some Uk fans think Kentucky-born players are magic and have superpowers.
Not one person has said that about Perry.
Most all are on the fence about what he can bring to the table.
I don't know why anyone would think Kerr is above being benched for Perry when he's not performing.
Total crap shoot when you bring in Perry against quality comp but he deserves the chance to fail.
Perry is not a walk on but the all time leading scorer in KY HS history, state champion, #76 ranked player in the class of '24 by Rivals and Calipari recruit if that means anything.
 
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Did you look at Kriisa’s stats from the Clemson game? His Offensive rating was horrible. He couldn’t stay in front of his defender and rarely tried to create. All I have said is that Perry could have received a few of his minutes. So yeah. I would have liked to see a little more of Perry during the last game. It might of made a difference.
Y’all are so biased and try to refer to something like offensive rating to sound like there is anything objective within you driving it lol. Here is the link to advanced metrics on the year and, no, Travis Perry’s offensive rating, despite Kerry’s poor play, is significantly worse. Look at the numbers yourselves y’all.

 
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Y’all are so biased and try to refer to something like offensive rating to sound like there is anything objective within you driving it lol. Here is the link to advanced metrics on the year and, no, Travis Perry’s offensive rating, despite Kerry’s poor play, is significantly worse. Look at the numbers yourselves y’all.

Perry hasn’t even played enough minutes to get anything close to a fair sample. Jeeezzzz!!!
 
Perry hasn’t even played enough minutes to get anything close to a fair sample. Jeeezzzz!!!
Thanks for bringing that up. We don’t see his play but Pope does, everyday in practice. Thanks for further exposing the blatant bias.

(Btw Kerr has developed his rating versus legitimate comp and Perry developed his against mid major backups and the numbers are still abysmal).
 
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Thanks for bringing that up. We don’t see his play but Pope does, everyday in practice. Thanks for further exposing the blatant bias.

(Btw Kerr has developed his rating versus legitimate comp and Perry developed his against mid major backups and the numbers are still abysmal).
And what other players was Perry playing alongside in those games??? Horn???
 
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And what other players was Perry playing alongside in those games??? Horn???
Nothing anyone says to you will change your mind. Perry should definitely be playing over the guys we have in there based on literally nothing except his high school record. I’m done wasting my times throwing facts at a wall
 
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Nothing anyone says to you will change your mind. Perry should definitely be playing over the guys we have in there based on literally nothing except his high school record. I’m done wasting my times throwing facts at a wall
Fact is, you can’t compare apples to oranges. You have to present the same situation.
 
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Who cares what he did against Bucknell and Wright State…against the 2 teams with a pulse he has 6 points, 2/11 from 3 and ZERO assists.
So you’re judging him off one bad game. He played good against Duke and all the others so that has to be it.
 
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Krissa has a bad game and now he's a liability. He's fine. He'll be fine. Nobody us taking into consideration how it hampers your ability to execute when teams are allowed to foul the s*#t out of you and best you to death physically. It caused huge problems for us. Hard to hit shots when you get mugged and beat down.
 
So you’re judging him off one bad game. He played good against Duke and all the others so that has to be it.
No, i base it off of his entire collegiate career, from Arizona to now. Someone said it best, he’s a high risk/low reward player.

It’s funny that you say i based it off one 1 game. You don’t shoot 25% based on 1 game.
 
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Krissa has a bad game and now he's a liability. He's fine. He'll be fine. Nobody us taking into consideration how it hampers your ability to execute when teams are allowed to foul the s*#t out of you and best you to death physically. It caused huge problems for us. Hard to hit shots when you get mugged and beat down.
No he's had a bad season so far, not just one bad game. He's shooting 25% overall and 24% from 3. He's isn't much of a defender and his handle is suspect for a guard. I have no idea if Perry is any better at this stage since he hasn't played any meaningful minutes. Given how little he's played, I don't understand the posters that say with absolute certainty he isn't ready. It's OK to trust Pope, and I agree with that take. However, I don't understand Chandler not getting any run at Clemson.
 
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What have we got to lose?
Basketball games.

You guys are so desparate for Kentucky boys to play you ignore facts and logic.

Kriisa played bad. Kriisa has played years of high level college basketball. He is way ahead of Perry. Kriisa will play better in the future.

If Perry is ready for bigtime minutes, he can prove that in practice. And when Coach Pope sees enough in practice to think Perry is ready, Perry gets minutes.

But this "Well shoot, let's just throw him out there and hope it can't be worse." Is flawed logic. It can be worse.
 
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No he's had a bad season so far, not just one bad game. He's shooting 25% overall and 24% from 3. He's isn't much of a defender and his handle is suspect for a guard. I have no idea if Perry is any better at this stage since he hasn't played any meaningful minutes. Given how little he's played, I don't understand the posters that say with absolute certainty he isn't ready. It's OK to trust Pope, and I agree with that take. However, I don't understand Chandler not getting any run at Clemson.
I think the point is you do have to trust Pope.

If Perry was showing enough in practice to play, I think Pope would play him. The fact that Kriisa has struggled and Pope continues to trust him over Perry--I think that probably speaks to what Pope sees in practice.
 
Basketball games.

You guys are so desparate for Kentucky boys to play you ignore facts and logic.

Kriisa played bad. Kriisa has played years of high level college basketball. He is way ahead of Perry. Kriisa will play better in the future.

If Perry is ready for bigtime minutes, he can prove that in practice. And when Coach Pope sees enough in practice to think Perry is ready, Perry gets minutes.

But this "Well shoot, let's just throw him out there and hope it can't be worse." Is flawed logic. It can be worse.
I can’t call someone a Kentucky fan if they have agendas that are more important then the success of our program. I thought that was the thing half these people were mad about with Cal, the whole putting agendas above the success of the program. When it comes to the pet project of the Kentucky boy fan club that doesn’t matter anymore.
 
I think the point is you do have to trust Pope.

If Perry was showing enough in practice to play, I think Pope would play him. The fact that Kriisa has struggled and Pope continues to trust him over Perry--I think that probably speaks to what Pope sees in practice.
Realistically and honestly, this is the only position to take. Pope and his staff are paid millions of dollars to coach this team.
There is little doubt that there are regular staff discussions and evaluations of every member of the team and how best to allocate minutes of playing time. If they cannot determine the ranking and depth chart of the entire roster, they are both incompetent and overpaid. Having said that, it is easy and normal for fans to speculate about replacement options for players who are slumping and/or under-performing. Obviously, just as Pope asks the players to trust the offense, fans should trust Pope and his staff.
 
Chandler better defensively than Krissa most likely. Not sure he has the ball handling skills though.
Ball handling skills can be improved with practice.
Size, length, quickness, and athleticism cannot.
Chandler has all four of those things going for him.
KK has none of them that I have seen so far. I hate his flopping. Just stay in front of your man and defend, if you are capable.
If not, time to let someone else have a shot at those minutes.

P.S. Running your mouth is not a basketball skill. KK is good at that.
 
Ball handling skills can be improved with practice.
Size, length, quickness, and athleticism cannot.
Chandler has all four of those things going for him.
KK has none of them that I have seen so far. I hate his flopping. Just stay in front of your man and defend, if you are capable.
If not, time to let someone else have a shot at those minutes.
Yeah, im not impressed with him. He can shoot but useless if he is not on that night. A defensive liability.
 
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If Perry is the choice behind Kerr, he needs to be putting out feelers for a new home next year. He is currently being recruited over and if he can't beat out Kerr he will never play meaningful minutes here. Too good of an offensive talent to waste his time on the pine. Jmo, but Kerr has not shown me much.
 
If Perry is the choice behind Kerr, he needs to be putting out feelers for a new home next year. He is currently being recruited over and if he can't beat out Kerr he will never play meaningful minutes here. Too good of an offensive talent to waste his time on the pine. Jmo, but Kerr has not shown me much.
Kerr Kriisa has had a pretty solid career and started 3 out of 4 years in P5 basketball. So far he's been underwhelming, but he'll get there.
 
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Jasper starts day 1.
I could see that happening. I suspect that Johnson is going to be a good one maybe sooner rather than later, and I think that’s true of all 3 of the current incoming freshmen - and all of them are going to play a lot next season. But I also believe Chandler could have something to say about whether Johnson starts from day 1. I think the huge jump many players take in their sophomore year may look even more dramatic for Chandler due to his two year layoff. Whichever way it goes, however, thankfully now I feel confident the decision will be based on production and impact on winning games (i.e., weighing the positives against the negatives), not recruiting stars or NBA draft projections.
 
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The only flaw in the logic of the " bring him along slow" sentiment is that if he continues to sit next to Walker Horn all season, Pope has no choice but to get a starter level PG from the portal to compete with Acaden.
Perry will be looking at third string again.
Acaden most likely returns for a soph year so if Pope signs a stud point in 26 the Perry is buried again and probably hits the portal.
Perry will have to earn his play. Bottom line. I want pope to stack as many players as he can that can play.
 
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