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The Ukraine war. (Yes, we'll mind our manners)

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No, vote Vivek! Anti-war and anti-communist(i.e., anti-woke), unashamedly pro-America, and actually capable of uniting us out of this complete chitshow of fools and dysfunction we call politics.





I know: I posted him just for you. 😘

He's right though on Ukraine.
He's also an idiot. What a novel idea, negotiate with Russia who has broken every negotiated deal they've had with Ukraine. The definition of crazy, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
 
He's also an idiot. What a novel idea, negotiate with Russia who has broken every negotiated deal they've had with Ukraine. The definition of crazy, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Yassss queen. This right here! We shouldn't negotiate with a nuclear armed power. More of this please!
 
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Seems appropriate since I've said you're a conspiracy theorist. You certainly have the same SOP as a conspiracy theorist. Unless you agree with a position or thought you AUTOMATICALLY discount it.

That isn't anywhere close to the reality of what/how I think. The former is just a way for you to discredit, and the latter is you being your typical projectionist self. What I automatically discount is your ignorance, like sayign Bandera was complicated, because you read it somehwere.

He was not complicated. He was the exact same eruopean ethno-natinoalist filth that nearly destroyed humanity.


He's also an idiot. What a novel idea, negotiate with Russia who has broken every negotiated deal they've had with Ukraine. The definition of crazy, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
He's most certainly not an idiot.
 
That isn't anywhere close to the reality of what/how I think. The former is just a way for you to discredit, and the latter is you being your typical projectionist self. What I automatically discount is your ignorance, like sayign Bandera was complicated, because you read it somehwere.

He was not complicated. He was the exact same eruopean ethno-natinoalist filth that nearly destroyed humanity.



He's most certainly not an idiot.

That isn't anywhere close to the reality of what/how I think. The former is just a way for you to discredit, and the latter is you being your typical projectionist self. What I automatically discount is your ignorance, like sayign Bandera was complicated, because you read it somehwere.

He was not complicated. He was the exact same eruopean ethno-natinoalist filth that nearly destroyed humanity.



He's most certainly not an idiot.
I didn't read it genius. Its easy to deduce by written history.

Kennedy compared vaccines to Nazi Germany. His foundation paid for mire than half of Facebooks antivax ads, before covid. Those 2 things alone make him an idiot.
 
RFK Jr really fooled a lot of conservatives on this board. He came out against vaccines and the CIA and they immediately flock to him with the “he’s moderate, anti-deep state, and we may vote for him!” mindset.

Environmental nut, wants reparations, and said Russia “invaded with good intentions.” 🤡 🤡

He could be a spoiler for Biden running Indy, that isn’t a bad thing.
 
I didn't read it genius. Its easy to deduce by written history.
It most certainly is not.
Kennedy compared vaccines to Nazi Germany. His foundation paid for mire than half of Facebooks antivax ads, before covid. Those 2 things alone make him an idiot.
I was referring to VIvek, as I'm sure you were aware. Nothing about him can be portrayed as conspiracy minded, something which the corrupt media has neverhteless tried, and failed, to manufacture.
 
Source: Schröder during a lengthy interview with the left-wing Berliner Zeitung

Quote: "I received a request from Ukraine in 2022 to mediate between Russia and Ukraine. The question was whether I would be able to convey a message to Putin," the former German Chancellor said.

Details: The former chancellor also mentioned the five points of what was supposedly a "peace plan" being discussed at the time: Ukraine's rejection of NATO membership, "two official languages" in Ukraine, Donbas "autonomy", "security guarantees" for Ukraine, and negotiations on the status of Crimea.

"The only people
who could resolve the war over Ukraine are the Americans. During the peace talks in March 2022 in Istanbul with Rustem Umierov [incumbent Ukraine’s Defence Minister – ed.], Ukrainians did not agree to peace because they were not allowed to. They had to coordinate everything they talked about with the Americans first," Schröder said.

 
Source: Schröder during a lengthy interview with the left-wing Berliner Zeitung

Quote: "I received a request from Ukraine in 2022 to mediate between Russia and Ukraine. The question was whether I would be able to convey a message to Putin," the former German Chancellor said.

Details: The former chancellor also mentioned the five points of what was supposedly a "peace plan" being discussed at the time: Ukraine's rejection of NATO membership, "two official languages" in Ukraine, Donbas "autonomy", "security guarantees" for Ukraine, and negotiations on the status of Crimea.

"The only people
who could resolve the war over Ukraine are the Americans. During the peace talks in March 2022 in Istanbul with Rustem Umierov [incumbent Ukraine’s Defence Minister – ed.], Ukrainians did not agree to peace because they were not allowed to. They had to coordinate everything they talked about with the Americans first," Schröder said.

Once again your lazy posting exposes you. Try researching a bit. Schroeder is little more than a ventriloquist dummy sitting on his buddy Putins lap. He's so corrupt his party tried to expel him. He'll say and do whatever Putin wants. Putin has made him very rich.

 
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Once again your lazy posting exposes you. Try researching a bit. Schroeder is little more than a ventriloquist dummy sitting on his buddy Putins lap. He's so corrupt his party tried to expel him. He'll say and do whatever Putin wants. Putin has made him very rich.


Conveniently.

And, yes, as I told you from the start, the only actual reason this war is being waged is due to competing Russian and Ukrainian oligarchical interests. That says nothing about the complete black out in western media on peace talks, what it woudl've taken to prevent/stop the needless war from wasting more lives still.

Research Bandera.
 
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So you're a RFKjr fan? Or do you realize he's a nut but you just enjoy piling on my posts?
I don’t think I am a fan of any politician. He is a candidate for president and I expect will be one of the options for my vote. You are the one who makes extreme comments about others and then gets defensive when people call you on it.
 
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RFK Jr really fooled a lot of conservatives on this board. He came out against vaccines and the CIA and they immediately flock to him with the “he’s moderate, anti-deep state, and we may vote for him!” mindset.

Environmental nut, wants reparations, and said Russia “invaded with good intentions.” 🤡 🤡

He could be a spoiler for Biden running Indy, that isn’t a bad thing.
Early polls I've seen show his running helps Biden. I presume that's the anti-vax vote leaving Trump. Just a guess.
 
Early polls I've seen show his running helps Biden. I presume that's the anti-vax vote leaving Trump. Just a guess.


Pro science, anti never ending foreign wars, anti deep state who murdered his dad and uncle.

The weaponization of the “Justice” system against everyday Americans by Biden administration and permanent government is one of the biggest threats to our nation. Would hope since the same people (obviously not the exact same people, but same group) murdered his dad and uncle, RFK would make it a priority to dismantle the weaponized “Justice” system. A lot of his fringe views have no chance of ever getting through congress, like 3% guaranteed mortgages.
 
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Conveniently.

And, yes, as I told you from the start, the only actual reason this war is being waged is due to competing Russian and Ukrainian oligarchical interests. That says nothing about the complete black out in western media on peace talks, what it woudl've taken to prevent/stop the needless war from wasting more lives still.

Research Bandera.
I have and there isn't a blackout Mr. Conspiracy-Theory, its not real. You accept, yet again, whatever pablum Putin is feeding you. I found references to the ridiculous story and from that I learned an awful lot about German leaders and Schroeder in particular.

Enjoy eating eating your crock of crap. Thats all it is.
 
I have and there isn't a blackout Mr. Conspiracy-Theory, its not real. You accept, yet again, whatever pablum Putin is feeding you. I found references to the ridiculous story and from that I learned an awful lot about German leaders and Schroeder in particular.

Enjoy eating eating your crock of crap. Thats all it is.

The source I cited was a pro-Ukrainian source, Ukrainian pravda, not PUtin.

If it was just"my" crock of crap, then someone from Ukraine iwth firsthand knowledge would've pubclically denied Schroeder's claims. No, Schroeder was asked by them to help them broker a peace deal because he would be someone Putin could trust.

And no, you have not researched Bandera. You read some pro-war articles written by corrupt media and thinktansk confirming your presuppositions.
 
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The whole idea that the U.S. scuttled peace talks because ZOMG WARMONGERS!!!!! is just incorrect. If you begin with that as your premise, then anything that follows from it is conceptually flawed.

Slightly earlier in the interview, at about 2 hours and 45 minutes, (former Israeli PM) Bennett makes another significant statement: while the talks achieved some breakthroughs, with Putin agreeing to drop his demands for Ukraine’s demilitarization and “denazification”—which Bennett understood to mean the removal of Volodymyr Zelensky as president of Ukraine—and Zelensky agreeing to drop the goal of NATO membership, all of that juddered to a halt in early April once the reports came in of Russian atrocities in Bucha, the town near Kyiv that had been under Russian occupation in March. As Bennett succinctly puts it: “The Bucha massacre—once that happened I said, it’s over.”

In other words, it wasn’t the United States or Western countries or NATO that ended any peace talks, such as they were. Rather, it was, first and foremost, Russia’s bloody escalation of the violence.


https://www.thebulwark.com/no-the-u...-did-not-blow-up-a-ukraine-russia-peace-deal/
 
Quite shocking and surprising that Putin would pick his German BFF and a guy that makes $1,000,000 a year as a Gazprom lobbyist to be the impartial peace talks mediator.
 
Quite shocking and surprising that Putin would pick his German BFF and a guy that makes $1,000,000 a year as a Gazprom lobbyist to be the impartial peace talks mediator.

Does seem like he could have picked someone a little bit better at negotiating, not someone who settled for $1,000,000 a year hen you compare that to what the Biden’s were making to influence policy.
 
The source I cited was a pro-Ukrainian source, Ukrainian pravda, not PUtin.

If it was just"my" crock of crap, then someone from Ukraine iwth firsthand knowledge would've pubclically denied Schroeder's claims. No, Schroeder was asked by them to help them broker a peace deal because he would be someone Putin could trust.

And no, you have not researched Bandera. You read some pro-war articles written by corrupt media and thinktansk confirming your presuppositions.
Your source didn't make any claims of accuracy. In fact it said he left key details out. Do you actually read the crap you post?
 
Your source didn't make any claims of accuracy. In fact it said he left key details out. Do you actually read the crap you post?

If it weren't true, the Ukrainians would deny Schroeder's claims.


Sheesh, according to Schroeder and no other supporting evidence. I'm an elf at Santa's workshop.
If it weren't true, the Ukrainians would deny Schroeder's claims. That is what they would do, not spin it like this.



So yet again, anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot, clown or lying.
 
If it weren't true, the Ukrainians would deny Schroeder's claims. That is what they would do, not spin it like this.

There's not much "spin" in this statement from the the tweet you used "What else does this interview with search for negotiating solutions mean? Putin does not feel confident. He is not confident first of all in the strength of his army, which does not bring him quick and tangible victories. He realizes that he cannot solve the 'Ukrainian Question' now by force. That is why he is using Schröder. He is looking for ways to prolong the war and accumulate forces."
 
If it weren't true, the Ukrainians would deny Schroeder's claims.



If it weren't true, the Ukrainians would deny Schroeder's claims. That is what they would do, not spin it like this.



So yet again, anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot, clown or lying.
Zelensky did deny it by almost immediately saying Ukraine would give up no land. One of the 5 peace plan items for Russia was getting Donbas.

Anton, much like the article, simply reiterated the claim. He did not validate it. Zelensky certainly invalidated it.
 
Zelensky did deny it by almost immediately saying Ukraine would give up no land. One of the 5 peace plan items for Russia was getting Donbas.

Anton, much like the article, simply reiterated the claim. He did not validate it. Zelensky certainly invalidated it.

He said that then after the fact.
 
Schröder is essentially a paid agent for Russia. No one should take him seriously and he should be deported to Russia and his German passport taken away so he can live in his adopted state.

My only cocnern is it true or not.

Absent a Ukrainian denial, I am compelled to accept it as true, not just dismiss itbecause he has competing interests. Everything has competing interests. Just as I was telling you people in real time then, competent diplomacy could've/should've saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
 
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I guess ol' SDC has me on ignore, LOL. He's flailing about with y'all but nary a peep in reply to my most recent posts.
 
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