Terrence Shannon’s accuser lying for money?
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You all should go back and read the thread about this from during the season. A ton of people on this board were ready to convict him and ruin his life. They were all adamant he was likely guilty and should not play in the tournament.
This is why innocent until proven guilty should still be a thing.
This is why innocent until proven guilty should still be a thing.
She should immediately be tried and sentenced as if she were the rapist. This is attempted murder using the judicial system.
There is currently no deterrent for women doing this crap.
There is currently no deterrent for women doing this crap.
Reminiscent of what happened to guys like Matt Araiza and Trevor Bauer …careers destroyed by false accusations.
You gotta be careful about who you choose to lay down with these days …especially if you’re a filthy rich baller.
You gotta be careful about who you choose to lay down with these days …especially if you’re a filthy rich baller.
I agree. The penalty should match what she sought to inflict on an innocent person.
If a person is found to have falsely accused someone of rape, they should face prison time. Same with fake racist attacks. That’s the only way these things, than can legitimately ruin someone’s life, will stop.
For all women, not at all lol.. For women like that? Hell yeah..
And it’s only becoming more common. Reminds me of a story from a few years ago. A guy attending USC had sex with this girl. From a bar. She went and told the cops the day after she was raped. If it hadn’t been for hotel CCTV footage he would have been convicted.
We live in a nearly zero accountability society for women in regards to the majority of domestic legal issues.
Should happen, but it won’t. And the grounds for sentencing should be if it’s something provable like data forensics. Bc I wouldn’t want man or woman going to jail just bc I’m aware that not being able to prove it in court doesn’t mean something didn’t happen in a he said she said case….but if it’s provable then stringem up
Not me. I'm sick of women doing this and sadly, I automatically doubt an accuser these days until real evidence is presented.
This is the lazy element of human nature. Lie and steal money someone worked for, so you don't have to. Zero regard for destroying someone's life and potentially getting them killed. This is theft, it's evil, it's self-centered laziness, and it's dangerous. These people need to thrown in jail. If some POS tried this on me or a loved one, I cannot guarantee how morally grounded I'd react.
That’s actually the way it’s supposed to work and there is nothing sad about it. The burden of proof falls on the accuser…always…as it should. There should always be doubt on accusations until the proof shows “beyond reasonable doubt”.
There’s that doubt word again…
The believe all women BS flies in the face of how we’ve always done things.
Let me get this straight...Everyone is now certain this guy is not only innocent but was framed by a woman out for extortion based on....Whatever that random Illinois fan blog says? And she was going to profit off this how?
I don't know if he is guilty or not. But common sense tells me that an experienced prosecutor doesn't pursue this all the way to the point of seating a jury and preparing for the trial, which I understand is to start Monday, because he or she was duped by some college girl trying to make a score.
Let's see how the trial plays out. But a prosecutor who thinks he has a weak case would have pled this out to a misdemeanor charge , figured out a way to drop the charges in a face saving way, or otherwise gotten out from under it before taking it to a jury, where an expensive, and no doubt experienced defense attorney can use any means necessary to shred his case.
By the way, the latest stories on this trial suggests the defense will not claim nothing happened to the girl. Shannon's lawyers are apparently going for the "SODDI" defense -- some other dude did it. (It WAS Lawrence. Maybe a KU basketball player was near by?)
If the trial goes off as scheduled, we'll know soon enough. If a jury which includes men, women, blacks and whites finds there is not enough evidence to say he is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, then it is fair to question the prosecutor, the girl and the system. But that hasn't happened yet.
I don't know if he is guilty or not. But common sense tells me that an experienced prosecutor doesn't pursue this all the way to the point of seating a jury and preparing for the trial, which I understand is to start Monday, because he or she was duped by some college girl trying to make a score.
Let's see how the trial plays out. But a prosecutor who thinks he has a weak case would have pled this out to a misdemeanor charge , figured out a way to drop the charges in a face saving way, or otherwise gotten out from under it before taking it to a jury, where an expensive, and no doubt experienced defense attorney can use any means necessary to shred his case.
By the way, the latest stories on this trial suggests the defense will not claim nothing happened to the girl. Shannon's lawyers are apparently going for the "SODDI" defense -- some other dude did it. (It WAS Lawrence. Maybe a KU basketball player was near by?)
If the trial goes off as scheduled, we'll know soon enough. If a jury which includes men, women, blacks and whites finds there is not enough evidence to say he is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, then it is fair to question the prosecutor, the girl and the system. But that hasn't happened yet.
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Why isn't this on ESPN's page? I guess vindication does sell as much as rape. Gold star, ESPN.
Fair point. But it's equally feasible to assume the prosecutor hired isn't exactly a seasoned high powdered competent lawyer. They possibly didn't know about these texts and jumped the gun. Your point is valid, but it's also possible this is an incompetent lawyer, looking for their big day, and put the cart before the horse. As you said, I guess we'll see.
If you read the police report and look at some of the evidence in forms of conversations involving the accuser after the alleged act, she sure doesn't appear to be a victim of sexual assault.
Shannon, by all accounts, has multiple people going to bat for him, while the lady has text messages amongst her friends talking about getting his ass and insinuating a potential payout.
While this is far from an exoneration for Shannon, it certainly raises major doubts about the lady's statements and accusations at this point.
Also, if the prosecutor was lied to and has enough pressure to act, they will often pursue charges that aren't as ironclad as you would think. This being a high profile case would certainly cause that type of public pressure.
it’s to the point where you have to doubt every accuser. It’s the only logical answer now.
It’s time for court rooms to create mandatory minimums for rape accusers to do stiff prison sentences when found to be lying. This country better start trying to protect their sons and not just their daughters. 3rd wave Feminism is a plague and it’s destroying everything in its path.
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It’s time for court rooms to create mandatory minimums for rape accusers to do stiff prison sentences when found to be lying. This country better start trying to protect their sons and not just their daughters. 3rd wave Feminism is a plague and it’s destroying everything in its path.
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Did you just essentially say prosecutors will not pursue bunk charges or a weak case? Have you been living under a rock for the last 50 years? Lawyers have ripped this country to pieces and lie without regard. Is this your world view? Wow. I shouldn’t be surprised after your world view also couldn’t identity the unethical madman that Calipari was.
Good grief log off and let people that have some sense communicate.
No, the text was submitted at the trial and reported by local media in Lawrence.
https://lawrencekstimes.com/2024/06/12/shannon-trial-day-3/
It’s because, for some people, something as fundamental as innocence until proven guilt will face scrutiny to reinforce a thinly veiled ideological axe to grind that has very little basis in reality. A concept as basic as this should not have detractors — no one benefits from making a simple concept so complex.
This. I think most people were out of sorts because a player who was under investigation for raping a girl was allowed to continue to play.
He should have been suspended until the trial was over. That sucks but that should have been the case.
If he ends up being innocent and the whole situation was a fabrication, then he should be able to counter sue. But until a conclusion is reached, he should not have been playing.
Why? What danger is there in him continuing to play basketball against men while the court proceedings play out?
Why should he be forced to put his life on hold and jeopardize his opportunity to play in the tournament, his opportunity to increase his draft potential, and his overall liberty due to an accusation? And where does that end? Should people not be allowed to work or continue their lives anytime someone brings forth an allegation of wrongdoing?
He was. At least that was how Illinois tried to handle it.
He was allowed to play only because he brought a civil action against his own school and got a judge to issue an injunction forcing UI to lift the suspension. He then went out and played awesome all season for the same school he’d just sued. What a weird situation that was.
Feminists are hilarious. They talk about the ''patriarchy'' and how they hate it. But love it when war time comes.
3rd wave feminist are satanic. Why this country continues to straddle both sides of this fence is disturbing. A time will come when entertaining this evil will have to be confronted. Still will never understand how the greats produced a generation that’s brought all of this into reality. It makes no sense.
Sounds like a great way to influence the the already questionable integrity of sports betting. If the mob is threatening your family, then you won't care about being countersued.
It all started when the KGB infiltrated our colleges in the 1950s. The kids of the greatest generation stood no chance.
What is utterly devastating here is how it affects women who truly are victims of sexual assault, assuming this women only accused for the money
They’ll be afraid to come forward and no justice will be done
They’ll be afraid to come forward and no justice will be done
But, but, but, but there are those that have told us that women don't lie about stuff like this
If true I feel bad for him because unfortunately some people may still call him a rapist.
Follow the bible: Save it for marriage and this wont be a problem. These young men are going to be victimized in a dozen different ways.....
so you are saying that if he is innocent then we should punish the innocent
To be honest I’m kind of amazed..and rather dismayed at some of the responses
Not everyone, but some
Not everyone, but some
Suspend until the trial is over ? That is the complete opposite of innocent until proven guilty. How would Shannon have gotten back his lost season and chance to earn income ? He couldn't.
Pretty simple, I wouldn't judge the accuser or the defendant until this all plays out.
If he raped her, he should go to prison. If she falsely accused him of rape, she should be locked away for 5 years.
Texting a friend "got his a%%" does not mean she was or wasn't raped.
If he raped her, he should go to prison. If she falsely accused him of rape, she should be locked away for 5 years.
Texting a friend "got his a%%" does not mean she was or wasn't raped.
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You forgot the part about the two emojis with dollar sign eyes and tongues. For most people, that would establish a financial motive behind the accusation.
Plus, the whole thing about counter-suing a false accuser? You won't get back what you lost in most situations. And if the person doesn't have any money at all, then what?
