Some Teams Have All The Luck: Since 2010 UNC Has 15 NCAAT Wins With ZERO Wins Versus Top 4 Seeds

[dlh331]

UNC is 0-6 versus top 4 seeds in the period 2010-16. Think about that. They are just incredibly lucky. Every year the bracket just opens up for them.

FYI, during that same period, Calipari is 11-3 versus top 4 seeds.

 

[KY_Kid]

That's crazy. I know they at least went to the championship game last year, and the Elite 8 in 2011.

 

[fla.cat]

That is one hell of a stat. NICE JOB.

 

[jameslee32]

Affidavits rule!

 

[Mojocat]

Louisville can't be far behind. Got to play a 9 and a 4 in the final four.

 

[Big_Blue79]

Whoa, that is a heck of a stat. Where did you get this? Just good detective work, or is there a nice database somewhere? I'd love to find other gems like this.

 

[dlh331]

Louisville can't be far behind. Got to play a 9 and a 4 in the final four.

UL has 15 wins in the NCAAT (none last year lol)

3-1 versus top 4 seeds

 

[dlh331]

Whoa, that is a heck of a stat. Where did you get this? Just good detective work, or is there a nice database somewhere? I'd love to find other gems like this.

I usually google the schools' media guide.

 

[Mojocat]

UL has 15 wins in the NCAAT (none last year lol)

3-1 versus top 4 seeds

since 2010?

 

[dlh331]

since 2010?

2010-16

 

[KY_Kid]

2011: Elite 8 as 2 seed (L vs #4 Kentucky)
Beat #15 Long Island, #7 Washington, #11 Marquette

2012: Elite 8 as 1 seed (L vs #2 Kansas)
Beat #16 Vermont, #8 Creighton, #13 Ohio

2013: 2nd Round as 8 seed (L vs #1 Kansas)
Beat #9 Villanova

2014: 2nd Round as 6 seed (L vs #3 Iowa State)
Beat #11 Providence

2015: Sweet 16 as 4 seed (L vs #1 Wisconsin)
Beat #13 Harvard, #5 Arkansas

2016: NCAA Runner-Ups as 1 seed (L vs #2 Villanova)
Beat #16 Florida Gulf Coast, #9 Providence, #5 Indiana, #6 Notre Dame, #10 Syracuse)

Crazy!

 

[UKWildcats#8]

UNC is 0-6 versus top 4 seeds in the period 2010-16. Think about that. They are just incredibly lucky. Every year the bracket just opens up for them.

FYI, during that same period, Calipari is 11-3 versus top 4 seeds.

Let's hope that doesn't happen this year...the bracket opening up that is.

 

[dlh331]

In 2016 Syracuse was one of the 10 worst Final 4 teams in my lifetime (I am 65) and of course UNC got them.

 

[mj2k10]

Here's an amazing stat.

Since seeding started (79), UK has played in 17 Elite 8's. 15 of those were against teams seeded 1-3, 2 below that.

In the same time, UNC has played in 19 Elite 8's. 10 of those have been against top 3 seeds, 9 below that.

 

[WeWant9]

I'd say we're long due for some bracket openings like that.

 

[Dakota25]

Hard for UK to get that kind of luck when our team is always put in the toughest region with the best teams.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

I'd say we're long due for some bracket openings like that.

Gonna have to wait til next year lol

 

[the nail at the foul line]

We have a history of our bracket not busting. The committee does a very good job with us. I meant to us.

 

[Cawood86]

You can always guarantee UK will get paired with UNC, UofL, WVU, etc. I'm with Cal. Do the brackets on an s-curve. Top 1 seed gets the lowest 2 seed and so forth.
Just do this and there can be at least some form of consistency.

 

[KYExtemper]

UNC's bracket is already opening up with MTSU winning today. I wouldn't be surprised if MTSU beats Butler and UNC just has to beat a #12 seed to get to the Elite Eight.

 

[Smashcat]

2011: Elite 8 as 2 seed (L vs #4 Kentucky)
Beat #15 Long Island, #7 Washington, #11 Marquette

2012: Elite 8 as 1 seed (L vs #2 Kansas)
Beat #16 Vermont, #8 Creighton, #13 Ohio

2013: 2nd Round as 8 seed (L vs #1 Kansas)
Beat #9 Villanova

2014: 2nd Round as 6 seed (L vs #3 Iowa State)
Beat #11 Providence

2015: Sweet 16 as 4 seed (L vs #1 Wisconsin)
Beat #13 Harvard, #5 Arkansas

2016: NCAA Runner-Ups as 1 seed (L vs #2 Villanova)
Beat #16 Florida Gulf Coast, #9 Providence, #5 Indiana, #6 Notre Dame, #10 Syracuse)

Crazy!

Crazy indeed. Please look up Duke's paths over the same period.

 

[Smashcat]

UNC's bracket is already opening up with MTSU winning today. I wouldn't be surprised if MTSU beats Butler and UNC just has to beat a #12 seed to get to the Elite Eight.

Butler has beaten Arizona, Vandy, Purdue, Villanova twice, and Cincinnati. I don't expect MTSU to beat them and also think UNC better know what they are up against with little Butler.

 

[KY_Kid]

Crazy indeed. Please look up Duke's paths over the same period.

2007: 6 seed Duke loses in First Round (L vs #11 VCU)

2008: 2 seed Duke to 2nd Round (L vs #7 West Virginia)
Beat #15 Belmont

2009: 2 seed Duke to Sweet 16 (L vs #3 Villanova)
Beat #15 Binghampton, #7 Texas

2010: 1 Seed Duke wins National Championship
Beat #16 Arkansas Pine Bluff, #8 California, #4 Purdue, #3 Baylor, #2 West Virginia, #5 Butler

2011: 1 Seed Duke to Sweet 16 (L vs #5 Arizona)
Beat #16 Hampton, #8 Michigan

2012: 2 Seed Duke loses in First Round (L vs #15 Lehigh)

2013: 2 Seed Duke to Elite 8 (L vs #1 Louisville)
Beat #15 Albany, #7 Creighton, #3 Michigan State

2014: 3 Seed Duke loses in First Round (L vs #14 Mercer)

2015: 1 Seed Duke wins National Championship
Beat #16 Robert Morris, #8 San Diego St, #5 Utah, #2 Gonzaga, #7 Michigan State, #1 Wisconsin

2016: 4 Seed Duke to Sweet 16 (L vs #1 Oregon)
Beat #13 UNC Wilmington, #12 Yale

In 10 seasons:
Overall Record: 22-8 (73%)
Record When Not Champions: 10-8 (56%)
As Higher Seed: 21-6
As Lower Seed: 0-2 (0%)
As Same Seed: 1-0 (100%)
Vs. 1 Seeds: 1-2 (33%)
Vs. 2 Seeds: 2-0 (0%)
Vs. 1-4 Seeds: 6-3 (67%)
Vs. 5-10 Seeds: 7-2 (78%)
Vs. 11+ Seeds: 8-3 (73%)
Biggest Upset For: Have not defeated a higher seed in 10 seasons
Biggest Upset Against: vs 15 Lehigh as a 2 Seed
Vs. "Blue Bloods": 0-0

 

[UKUGA]

That bodes well for us if we end up facing them. Wow.

 

[KY_Kid]

John Calipari in 6 NCAA Tournaments at UK

2010: 1 Seed Kentucky to Elite 8 (L vs #2 West Virginia)
Beat #16 East Tennessee St, #9 Wake Forest, #12 Cornell

2011: 4 Seed Kentucky to Final Four (L vs #3 UCONN)
Beat #13 Princeton, #5 West Virginia, #1 Ohio State, # 2 North Carolina)

2012: 1 Seed Kentucky wins National Championship
Beat #16 Western Kentucky, #8 Iowa State, #4 Indiana, #3 Baylor, #4 Louisville, #2 Kansas

2013: Did not make NCAA Tournament

2014: 8 Seed Kentucky to National Championship Game (L vs #7 UCONN)
Beat #9 Kansas State, #1 Wichita State, #4 Louisville, #2 Michigan, #2 Wisconsin)

2015: 1 Seed Kentucky to Final Four (L vs. #1 Wisconsin)
Beat #16 Hampton, #8 Cincinnati, #5 West Virginia, #3 Notre Dame

2016: 4 Seed Kentucky to 2nd Round (L vs. #5 Indiana)
Beat #13 Stony Brook

Overall Record: 23-5 (82%)
Record When Not Champions: 17-5 (77%)
As Higher Seed: 17-2 (89%)
As Lower Seed: 6-2 (75%)
As Same Seed: 0/1 (0%)
Vs. 1 Seeds: 2-1 (67%)
Vs 2 Seeds: 4-1 (80%)
Vs. 1-4 Seeds: 11-3 (71%)
Vs. 5-10 Seeds: 6-2 (75%)
Vs. 11+ Seeds: 6-0 (100%)
Biggest Upset For: Defeat #1 WSU as 8 seed
Biggest Upset Against: As 1 Seed lost to #2 Seed WVU
Vs. "Blue Bloods": 3-1 (75%)

 

[KY_Kid]

Here's a stat for you. The last time Duke defeated a higher seed in the NCAA Tournament was in the Elite 8 in 1994! 2 Seed Duke beat 1 Seed Purdue with Glenn "Big Dog" Robinson.

Coach K has 5 career wins as the lower seeded team.

1988 Elite 8: #2 Duke defeats #1 Temple
1989 Elite 8: #2 Duke defeats #1 Georgetown
1990 Elite 8: #3 Duke defeats #1 Connecticut
1992 Final Four: #2 Duke defeats #1 UNLV
1994 Elite 8: #2 Duke defeats #1 Purdue

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

Good stuff guys

 

[Mime-Is-Money]

Here's a stat for you. The last time Duke defeated a higher seed in the NCAA Tournament was in the Elite 8 in 1994! 2 Seed Duke beat 1 Seed Purdue with Glenn "Big Dog" Robinson.

Coach K has 5 career wins as the lower seeded team.

1988 Elite 8: #2 Duke defeats #1 Temple
1989 Elite 8: #2 Duke defeats #1 Georgetown
1990 Elite 8: #3 Duke defeats #1 Connecticut
1992 Final Four: #2 Duke defeats #1 UNLV
1994 Elite 8: #2 Duke defeats #1 Purdue

Can't really get hung up on this one as Duke has often been the #1 seed during the same time frame. We/commentators need to focus more on their opponents' avg seed and how the bracket opens up for them.

 

[KY_Kid]

Can't really get hung up on this one as Duke has often been the #1 seed during the same time frame. We/commentators need to focus more on their opponents' avg seed and how the bracket opens up for them.

You're right, incredibly they've only played 4 games against higher seeded teams in the past 24 years. They're 9-7 vs 1 & w seeds during that same period. Part of that is them being excellent, but they've also probably been over seeded several times as well.

 

[ukalum]

Whoa, that is a heck of a stat. Where did you get this? Just good detective work, or is there a nice database somewhere? I'd love to find other gems like this.

The website "allbrackets.com" is an excellent site that shows every bracket since the tournament started in 1939 along with other info in very easy to read and navigate form. It's also not loaded down with ads and other BS.

http://allbrackets.com/

 

[Middle Sound Heel]

I am a Tar Heel fan but I did not realize this Stat. The one that really bothers me the most is that since 2009 the Heels are 7-20 against you guys, Kansas, and Dook combined. I love the Heels but I am anti Roy. It's a tough and conflicting feeling to have

 

[tarwhiz]

UNC is 0-6 versus top 4 seeds in the period 2010-16. Think about that. They are just incredibly lucky. Every year the bracket just opens up for them.

FYI, during that same period, Calipari is 11-3 versus top 4 seeds.

2-6 Bitch!

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

2-6 Bitch!

All that cheating, and still only 5 titles?

Also, Villanova says hi, bitch. You've still got two games to go, and even if you get there, Roy's not stockpiling five five stars recruits for 3-4 years after this run. Everyone in Heel Nation knows this is your last real shot for very long time.

Enjoy it, whore.

 

[Heels smoked your team]

UNC is 0-6 versus top 4 seeds in the period 2010-16. Think about that. They are just incredibly lucky. Every year the bracket just opens up for them.

FYI, during that same period, Calipari is 11-3 versus top 4 seeds.

Got two this weekend...

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Got two this weekend...

That's cool. And with all the years of institutional cheating at your program, you guys are just sniffing what might be title #6?

That's pretty shitty, especially when one considers the fact that Jordan+cheating only gave you guys 5 total titles.

 

[Heels smoked your team]

That's cool. And with all the years of institutional cheating at your program, you guys are just sniffing what might be title #6?

That's pretty shitty, especially when one considers the fact that Jordan+cheating only gave you guys 5 total titles.

Titles hard to win most of UK's from last century.

 

[geo1464]

UNC is 0-6 versus top 4 seeds in the period 2010-16. Think about that. They are just incredibly lucky. Every year the bracket just opens up for them.

FYI, during that same period, Calipari is 11-3 versus top 4 seeds.

how about this year

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

how about this year

You're late. That's already been addressed by two other trolls.

 

[Heels smoked your team]

You're late. That's already been addressed by two other trolls.

Your posters shouldn't start stupid threads.

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

Your posters shouldn't start stupid threads.

It's not stupid when they're right.

But I wouldn't expect you to know that. You guys don't go to class, right?