Then what the hell are you talking about? Nobody’s got time for your riddles.
Slightly Different Take On Cal
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Then what the hell are you talking about? Nobody’s got time for your riddles.
... that reminds me of another quote from a wise man when he said, "you have the right to your opinion and with that, you have the "right" to be wrong." LOL, I'm not saying anyone is "wrong", just for the record.
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Cats2010 loving him some Allen must be kin to the kid. Why else would he write a book about him in one thread?
Is say the vast majority of people are exhausted with him at this point. Nobody can listen to his press conferences anymore. 1.) because we rarely beat anyone now so he can’t be “Swaggy” funny Cal. 2.) We have heard the same things from him for 13 years now. 3.) He hasn’t adopted or changed anything on court during actual games like you said. 4.) He’s stubborn and cocky and won’t change. 5.) Like you said he cares about everything else except actually winning games anymore. 6.) The things he says the past 2-4 years make no sense, to anyone. Not even national writers can take up for him anymore. He hasn’t seen people, injury problems that last forever, Sharpe fiasco, not playing the right lineups, saying he wants to do something but never does it or does something that completely goes against it. 7.) Lastly he doesn’t have the fire anymore. He lost it after our undefeated streak was lost and he blew the biggest title chance of our life and a once in a lifetime team.
I can see why he flipped his kid though after that, nobody was guarding so he gave Allen a chance hoping that he would play hard defense and he immediately gave up a 3. I’m sure he lost it because it made him mad it happened so quick and that they were dismantling us. He definitely deserves more minutes the 9-16 year but the next he wasn’t near as effective, and got the minutes he deserved. Maybe that doesn’t happen if he plays what he should have the year before. I’m wondering if the issue he’s having right now, where UK got fined for, is that was the reason he was in Cal’s doghouse?
I think Coach Calipari moved on years ago mentally from worrying about championships.
I really believe he believes his biggest night is draft night. We were told by numerous posters that if the biggest night was draft night that UK would benefit. That has been proven wrong. Very wrong.
I really believe he believes his biggest night is draft night. We were told by numerous posters that if the biggest night was draft night that UK would benefit. That has been proven wrong. Very wrong.
Great post I feel exactly the same way. I also think many on here who aren’t avid posters are in this camp. The anger and hate is from a smaller vocal minority. The never ending defense of Cal is also just a small group who evidently spend all day online to pounce on any perceived criticisms. Almost every thread devolves into a battle between these two factions.
I’ve read and posted much less on here lately as it seems 3/4 of the posts nowadays are Cal related. I get it he’s the coach and i think he deserves all the criticism he’s getting. But, at what point do u stop beating the dead horse. I also believe at this point he won’t change and most likely will be gone in a couple years, which is fine by me. This place will be borderline unreadable tho the next couple years if things continue to run the current course.
Yeah, totally agree about the 9-16 year vs last year aside from would have been nice to have a healthy Allen playing vs an injured Grady (which we learned about after the fact). Regardless, allen last year was awful when he did see the floor but I couldn’t help but blame cal for how he handled allen overall and totally ruining the kids confidence. Was pretty easy for me to see that side of it. Can’t mention allen on this board in any capacity without some trying to make more of your post than was intended so appreciate your dialogue.
Allen been discussed numerous times on previous threads, only brought him up here as it was relative to the subject of discussion for my part.
A lot of really good posts here, but ^^^^^ ATrain pretty well sums up how I feel as well.
I don't hate Cal, but I REALLY, REALLY don't like him as our coach anymore and wish he would either leave, or prove us wrong and turn this shit show around.
The real problem is that history has shown us that, on court, nothing is going to change or improve. Player development seems to be an afterthought; Cal's approach of throwing uber athletes at the opponent' no longer is effective.
He's worn out his welcome as far as I'm concerned.
I don't hate Cal, but I REALLY, REALLY don't like him as our coach anymore and wish he would either leave, or prove us wrong and turn this shit show around.
The real problem is that history has shown us that, on court, nothing is going to change or improve. Player development seems to be an afterthought; Cal's approach of throwing uber athletes at the opponent' no longer is effective.
He's worn out his welcome as far as I'm concerned.
I don't know if that's the reason, but I think it gives added insight into the character of Allen. Athletes may have to miss some classes due to the schedule demands, but they have counseling services that are readily available to them. Academic tutoring is made available as well... AND I know this from experience - because my daughter just graduated this past May - every class for the past several semesters was available online because of Covid. So even if you missed a class due to travel you could still watch the session. Allen had all that available to him and he was still academically ineligible. To me that speaks to a lack of initiative in the classroom and if he wasn't willing to put in the work in the classroom then maybe he wasn't doing it on the court as well. And before someone wants to make excuses for Allen about schoolwork think about this: Name the last player in football or basketball that was academically ineligible.
IMO just another thread to keep anything negative about the coach and our program to support division, us against them.
I agree and you know that every athlete gets major rope to get anything done. I’d venture to say quite a few even have their work done by tutors, maybe not at UK mabye so. It’s like you said though, when we the last person you heard of not making the cut for grades?
It’s one thing to be upset about it. It’s another thing to blow it 10000 times out of proportion, become outraged beyond any reasonable measure, and then choose to stay that way for an entire lifetime. I didn’t like it either but good grief.
My take on Cal's career at UK is sorta like marrying a smoking hot babe. Amazing at first then the looks start fade and you realize she can't cook or clean and really is just not a nice person but too expensive to get rid of.
I can sort this out a little bit more. Cal went to the trouble to hire an excellent staff. Good! That costs UK a lot of money, but it is appropriate for a school with 8 NCs. Cal goes to the trouble to recruit players at the very highest level. Very good!
But right out of his own mouth, Cal recently said that he has "higher priorities" than winning championships at UK. He holds events to raise money for tornado and flood victims. No problem! That is great! He is a devout Catholic. Good. We have freedom of religion in this country. He puts a lot of young players into the NBA, makes them rich, and stays in touch with them. That is great! But he is being paid to win basketball games and championships. He teaches his players to wash other people's feet. He is using his bully pulpit as UK's coach as a fulcrum for his social enginering projects. He is a basketball coach, not a social worker.
Despite great players and great rosters, it has been years since UK won an NCAA Tournament game. Recently he lost to Michigan State on a neutral court when his team twice could not execute routine defense against simple inbounds plays. Then his team was run off the floor and embarrassed by Gonzaga. More and more, Cal offers ethereal explanations and excuses when his team loses games. All of this has begun to sound like losing basketball games is not so much of a problem as long as he can pursue his "higher priorities". But at the moment Cal said that he has "higher priorities" than winning championships, he crossed a red line with UK's fan base and betrayed our trust. If we are a basketball school, as Cal says, then our basketball team should play like it. But there is a disconnection between the high rhetoric and the quality of play. At UK, basketball fans see that immediately and remind the coach of the school's standards. But we should not have to. Cal already knows the standard. It just is not his highest priority anymore.
I guess it comes down to whether or not a person thinks it’s acceptable. It wasn’t a “casual “ thing to me .
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